Breaking News: Sikhs Clash With Dera Sucha Sauda Followers In Punjab, 12 Injured

[akaal ustat]

do ardaas for chardi kalla of panth...and all these deras are finished off..not by the killing of the dera followers but the increase of sikhi parchaar in punjab/india...

i get the feeling this man gonna get shot regardless...but wheather he does or does not....thisa is wake up call for sikhi parchaar...

u kill him....teek....but then what about his 30 million followers...

parchaar of sikhi only way to kill these dereh....and all that used to say punjab is dry when it comes to sikhi...i guess we were alll proven wrong...

[2desi]

I believe the DSS Baba WON'T say he was wrong and apologize b/c his followers see him as a "Guru", meaning they believe that he can never be WRONG.

If he does apologize, he will loose all of followers, he will lose his credibility and his followers will realize that he is not a “Guru” but a phony.

From the political perspective the Akali Dal Badal wants him to lose his credibility so the Congress loses it “voting bank.” The Congress is bad mouthing Badal and his party in order to show the rest of India that Badal is trying to create communal violence (saying that he is allowing the Sikhs to attack the Dera).

Sikhs want him to lose his credibility (come to Sri Akal Takht Sahib and apologize) but ultimately most Sikhs want to put a bullet in the Fake Baba’s head and end his reign.

Just like Jathedar Iqbal Singh Ji (Takht Patna Sahib) said at the Sarbat Khalsa "we will finish him off and all of the other people pretending to be Gurus, we will turn our attention to you next." (this ain't a direct quote but a summary)

To watch the speech click on the following link

http://www.sikhsiyasat.com/misc/sarbat_khalsa1.html

[Guest Hardeep_S_Khalsa]

I believe the DSS Baba WON'T say he was wrong and apologize b/c his followers see him as a "Guru", meaning they believe that he can never be WRONG.

If he does apologize, he will loose all of followers, he will lose his credibility and his followers will realize that he is not a “Guru” but a phony.

From the political perspective the Akali Dal Badal wants him to lose his credibility so the Congress loses it “voting bank.” The Congress is bad mouthing Badal and his party in order to show the rest of India that Badal is trying to create communal violence (saying that he is allowing the Sikhs to attack the Dera).

Sikhs want him to lose his credibility (come the Akal Takht and apologize) but ultimately most Sikhs want to put a bullet in the Fake Baba’s head and end his reign.

Just like Jathedar Iqbal Singh Ji (Takht Patna Sahib) said at the Sarbat Khalsa "we will finish him off and all of the other people pretending to be Gurus, we will turn our attention to you next." (this ain't a direct quote but a summary)

I agree with you

To watch the speech click on the following link

http://www.sikhsiyasat.com/misc/sarbat_khalsa1.html

[Guest Hardeep_S_Khalsa]

I believe the DSS Baba WON'T say he was wrong and apologize b/c his followers see him as a "Guru", meaning they believe that he can never be WRONG.

If he does apologize, he will loose all of followers, he will lose his credibility and his followers will realize that he is not a “Guru” but a phony.

From the political perspective the Akali Dal Badal wants him to lose his credibility so the Congress loses it “voting bank.” The Congress is bad mouthing Badal and his party in order to show the rest of India that Badal is trying to create communal violence (saying that he is allowing the Sikhs to attack the Dera).

Sikhs want him to lose his credibility (come the Akal Takht and apologize) but ultimately most Sikhs want to put a bullet in the Fake Baba’s head and end his reign.

Just like Jathedar Iqbal Singh Ji (Takht Patna Sahib) said at the Sarbat Khalsa "we will finish him off and all of the other people pretending to be Gurus, we will turn our attention to you next." (this ain't a direct quote but a summary)

To watch the speech click on the following link

http://www.sikhsiyasat.com/misc/sarbat_khalsa1.html

I agree with you

[sikh supreme]

do ardaas for chardi kalla of panth...and all these deras are finished off..not by the killing of the dera followers but the increase of sikhi parchaar in punjab/india...

i get the feeling this man gonna get shot regardless...but wheather he does or does not....thisa is wake up call for sikhi parchaar...

u kill him....teek....but then what about his 30 million followers...

parchaar of sikhi only way to kill these dereh....and all that used to say punjab is dry when it comes to sikhi...i guess we were alll proven wrong...

I agree, it is the failure of khalsa panthic organistations in doing parchaar to the people that has led many to fall into the traps of these dera's and pakandi baba's who live a life of up most luxary and sexually abuse many women in their congregation.

It is better to do parchar to bring back the lost souls who follow these dera nutters than bring war on to their blind congregation.

[Panth Ke Jeet]

ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਹਿ ॥

Guru Piario Sadh Sangat Ji,

My Bhena and Veer Jis are absolutely right. Nothing but a public apology will suffice from this Choota Dera Sauda and their 'Baba'. This is also mentioned in this Punjabi news report from yesterday (May 18) by Shri Akal Takht's Jathedar. Link - http://panthkijeet.blogspot.com/2007/05/bu...ab-part-vi.html

ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਹਿ ॥

[wjkk wjkf]

what happens then?....sikhs move onto naamdharis nirankaris, radhaswamis n whatever? will that stop support? or will it makes thinsg worse - genuinely wanto to know!

[SaRpAnCh]

Even a public apology will not work now he has let it go too far,Indira K*thi,came to Harmandir Sahib affter Bluestar but she was never pardoned and neither will he be,as he will not appear in front of Akal Thakt,he will use the Hindu Propoganda News Teams,to his advantage,who report he has apologised,or Panjab is back to normal,so people give up the agitation,but with the shooting dead of a 14 yrold and his father,they've made things worse for themselves.The guys who shot them will be free soon,maybe with a new ID name and place to live.Don't believe even a word of what Indian Media tells you.Ram Gurmit will get whats comming to him.

[2desi]

Sikhs demand withdrawal of cases

20 May, 2007 l 0303 hrs ISTlTIMES NEWS NETWORK

PANIPAT: Lashing out at the state government for victimising Sikhs by registering cases against them on flimsy grounds during protests in Haryana, Sikh originations including Shiromani Gurdwara Prabandak Committee (SGPC) and HSGPC, has called a joint meeting on May 25 to discuss the situation, if the cases against Sikhs youths, who protesting in Pundri on Friday, were not withdrawn.

Kaithal police had slapped serious charges of attempt to murder under section 307 along with other sections of IPC against 12 youths who were protesting against Dera Sacha Sauda after burning the effigy of its head in Pundri on Friday. SP Navdeep Singh Virk told TOI on Saturday that they have been booked for attacking policemen though no one had lodged any formal complaint in this regard. The youths were part of the crowd, which was reportedly moving towards a Dera in the town.

The SGPC and HSGPC has condemned the action taken by Kaithal police and said that registration of cases under section 307 IPC was totally unwarranted. SGPC vice-president Raghujit Singh Virk, who led the delegation which called on the SP in Kaithal on Saturday, said the police chief expressed helplessness in withdrawing the cases during the meeting.

The state government was trying to add fuel to an ebbing fire by levelling serious charges against the protesters, which could backfire, the SGPC leader said. The police had also beaten up the youths in custody, he said.

Terming the charges against protesters as bid to intimidate the Sikhs. President of HSGPC, Jagdish Singh Jhinda warned the state government of serious consequences. Addressing a press conference in Panipat, he said when when the anger was subsiding, Kaithal police’s action was uncalled for and appeared politically motivated. He would meet the SP on Sunday to request withdrawal of cases and even talked to chief minister Bhupinder Singh Hooda to press his demand, Jhinda said.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/...how/2062397.cms

[SaRpAnCh]

Recent Updates

Posted in Late Breaking News by Panthic Weekly Editors on the May 19th, 2007

We have heard unconfirmed reports of at least one more Singh attaining shaheedi after dying in the hospital from his injuries.

Dera followers in Nazpura village of Bathinda district attacked a Granthi’s home and tried to set Guru Granth Sahib Jee on fire. The fire was controlled after the Granthi raised the alert on the loudspeaker. No damage was done to Guru Granth Sahib’s Saroop.

More updates to come. Please look for the next issue of Panthic Weekly for more details.