Maya

[lowest of the low singhni]

^ Yeh.

And if Maya didn't seem sweet, there would be no obstacle to fight on the way to Guru Saheb, and the world-system would pretty much break down, effectively rendering our lives unbearably easy, pointless and less interesting in general.

[RupZ]

I've also been thinking the same thingy lately. The thing is we dont even know what Sach Kand looks like from the start, I think Guru Ji said it was indescribable. But we can not see beyond theses Five senses.

[JustME]

wow wot a fantastic thread man.............reminds me of why i joined SS in the 1st place

when i think of Maya and Waheguru i think of Ying-Yang

Waheguru is the Ultimate................Maya is the next best thing................so its like the ultimate Good and Evil (so to speak) When we do true bhagti the waheguru.................his kirpa sends us soaring troughs places and things that are pure and undescribable..................maya is the same..............but the one differerence is the Maya is all around us and can be seen, felt, etc etc thats why we find comfort in it

Its says in anand sahib that the path to God is a thin as a hair yet as sharp as a knife.............Finding the Path to waheguru is only through His kirpa................Maya however wen can get simply by walking out onto the street, switching on our computer, etc etc hence we fall into it almost unknowingly............we sin and think its okay...................but its when we start to realise there is sumthing more powerful out there we begin to realise the "WRONG" aspects of what we are doing..........before we never gave two hoots......................

THAT...........in my opinion is the hard bit....................years and years or indulging in maya........its like a tree in a jungle...............the roots are set in place and have stemed into this huge, all cusumming space where you cant see up past it.......................and where the was one suddenly there are thousands...................where u chop one down 50 more will come in its place

How do you break free.................its like going into a relationship outside marraige.................its so easy to find someone and spend 5-6 years with them but when it comes to finishing that relationship for whatever reason its the hardest thing in the world bcos each chor is interlinked.................you have attachment...............through that you have kaam..............etc etc .........................i think each chor represents the full power of having five chors.................kaam is attacment, attachment can be through pride..............pride leadings to Krodh and so on..............

So how does sikhi takle this............? let think of the idea of becoming jeevan mukth? isnt that the aim of every gursikh.................remain attached to things FOR THE PERPOSE THEY ARE INTENDED but always remained attached to Waheguru's charan.........................

JEEVAN MUKT................by where you become free of all attachment to worldly things..................sounds lovely does it........................?.................but in order to do this dont we have to engage in maya and become the filthist sinners to understand the concept of it being wrong?

Waheguru looks in our souls.......................he sees our weaknesses and brings them out to the surface...............its then up to us wot we do.......................we can either take these negitives and turn them into something positive or we can keep indulging in them and letting them consume us.................

But remember Maya only says with us while we are alive....................when we die, the abandon us and who is left standing there? WAHEGURU and our Battered, tortured and tormented soul..............we gilmpse at waheguru and in that instant we reliase how wrong we were.................the full brunt of our shortcoming hits us full in the face but before we even have chance to register we are sucked back in the wheel of re-incarnation............................we keep going around and around and around and each time waheguru extends his hand to help us but we hand it over to maya instead................

erm...................thats it realy..........dunno why i sed all that and im not exactly sure whther its relelvent to the actual topic but when i start typing im in a world of my own....hehehe...... :wub:

Bhul chuck maafi

[lowest of the low singhni]

You should post in the GV section more often. :wub:

[JustME]

:wub: i fink i will we shud make this a regular slot.........in depth vichaar on a topic thats always bugging us......................i got alot outa this thread thanks sangat jio

bhul chuck maafi for the terrible spelling.............u wudnt believe i got a B in english :D

[JustME]

*wonders why the thread died after she posted*

:mellow:

:wub:

[lowest of the low singhni]

*wonders why the thread died after she posted*

:mellow:

:wub:

Well at the time no-one posted after me for like 2 days. I thought I'd killed it.

[Papi]

What do you know, you did kill it :lol:

[lowest of the low singhni]

I'll get you for that later Tubelight. You and me, outside the Sikhsangat gates at 4 o'clock.

: )

[Papi]

I don't fight women. ohhhhh maybe that's why I don't fight maya either :gg: