Shere Panjab

[shamsher]

I just kindly replied to a simple question.

[sherlsurj]

shamsher can you please grow up?everyone else come onto this forum with amazing quotes and educated opinions and you come out with this childish really sad stuff. you must be really lonely or something. look we get the message you dont agree with anything anyone says on this board. you are wrecking quite good discussion topics

[dalsingh101]

AK 47

Them sort of comments don't help dude.

[shamsher]

Sorry if you look back I did actually write a proper reply. It's just these other guys who have been adding stuff about me being javanmard etc. Blame them not me. As far as I am concerned none of these SP groups should exist in any civilised society. Simple as that. Britain is governed by the rule of the law. If any person feels threatened they should use the law instead of playing pindu heroes. Sure the British police isn't perfect but if that's the problem than tackle that issue instead creating even more hassle. I totally agree that Skinheads and certain Pakistani youth groups are a problem but to go down to their level doesn't solve the problem at all. These groups only exist because they are allowed to exist. Last spring the authorities in Tehran lined up all the different gangs that exist in Tehran and now people can go out until quite late without feeling that they're not safe. If Tehran can do that I so no reason as to why the British authorities can't do that. The police knows very well where these groups exist and with the present anti-terror legislation it should be quite easy to get rid of all these scumbag groups i.e. skinheads, Pakistani, Panjabi, Somalian etc groups.

The problem is the authorities don't do anything about any of these groups: asks yourselves why instead of going on about shamsher being a <admin-profanity filter activated> doing nindiya etc...

[AK-47]

AK 47 said:

dunno ... maybe shamsher himself has had personal experience of the SP 'pimping network'. He might even be a victim ... come on guys give the guy a chance to speak out!

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sad ... very very sad...

No suprises ... but still very very sad.

Sorry dalsingh, i tried to resist but it was too easy man! Chal ill amend my joke above

[dalsingh101]

Sorry if you look back I did actually write a proper reply. It's just these other guys who have been adding stuff about me being javanmard etc. Blame them not me. As far as I am concerned none of these SP groups should exist in any civilised society. Simple as that. Britain is governed by the rule of the law. If any person feels threatened they should use the law instead of playing pindu heroes. Sure the British police isn't perfect but if that's the problem than tackle that issue instead creating even more hassle. I totally agree that Skinheads and certain Pakistani youth groups are a problem but to go down to their level doesn't solve the problem at all. These groups only exist because they are allowed to exist. Last spring the authorities in Tehran lined up all the different gangs that exist in Tehran and now people can go out until quite late without feeling that they're not safe. If Tehran can do that I so no reason as to why the British authorities can't do that. The police knows very well where these groups exist and with the present anti-terror legislation it should be quite easy to get rid of all these scumbag groups i.e. skinheads, Pakistani, Panjabi, Somalian etc groups.

The problem is the authorities don't do anything about any of these groups: asks yourselves why instead of going on about shamsher being a <admin-profanity filter activated> doing nindiya etc...

SP aren't a problem. No one is going to get randomly attacked by them, so the police don't really have anything to fear. If anything I've seen some older members help clear the streets of B'ham of drunk pindus on Vasaikhi nights WITH the police a few years ago.

I don't see how SP are going down to the level of the pervert gangs btw.

The fact that the youth of today are generally dumbed down idiots is a universal problem across all communities. Maybe if they read more widely they could help themselves.

SOMEONE PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD NOW!!!!!!!

[AK-47]

So i think its been agreed that the original SP were a bunch of guys trying their best to help out their community, over time they retired and some of the newer guys didnt live upto the old reputations and got involved in crime. Nobody in either group from what it seems was involved in prostitution or pimping etc.

Cool that discussion was resolved by dal and co a while back, next it looks like were talking about the need for ethnic gangs/groups who are (at first) interested in preserving their own communities.

[Soho Roadie]

shamsher, where you from brother? I would like to meet you to discuss some of this further in person.

[shamsher]

It's quite simple. Either we have a rule of law or we allow each community to have its own militia and we have civil war. If I were Prime Minister I would first of all create a state of emergency and crack down on all these different groups, and by that I mean violently. These groups be they SP, HT, NF etc are threatening the very balance of British society. Go to an area like Southall: people there are Panjabi first before being British. That is just unacceptable. You have people who lived in the country for 30 years and refuse to simply speak the language. In fact go to any gurdwara in the UK all the speaches are done in Panjabi. I fully support the government's project to end this. Groups like SP, HT, FN and what not are just the extreme manifestation of many groups (including white English) who refuse to integrate into the British reality.

Imagine a Panjabi girl really falls in love with a Christian, Jew or Muslim, if communities are given too much power as it is the case now, her liberties as an individual are limited in a state where the rule of law is suppose to exist. Hence why these groups simply have got to be smashed.

[dalsingh101]

It's quite simple. Either we have a rule of law or we allow each community to have its own militia and we have civil war. If I were Prime Minister I would first of all create a state of emergency and crack down on all these different groups, and by that I mean violently. These groups be they SP, HT, NF etc are threatening the very balance of British society. Go to an area like Southall: people there are Panjabi first before being British. That is just unacceptable. You have people who lived in the country for 30 years and refuse to simply speak the language. In fact go to any gurdwara in the UK all the speaches are done in Panjabi. I fully support the government's project to end this. Groups like SP, HT, FN and what not are just the extreme manifestation of many groups (including white English) who refuse to integrate into the British reality.

Imagine a Panjabi girl really falls in love with a Christian, Jew or Muslim, if communities are given too much power as it is the case now, her liberties as an individual are limited in a state where the rule of law is suppose to exist. Hence why these groups simply have got to be smashed.

The worst guys in this cross cultural/religious marriage scenario are Muslims btw. They are teh ones who want to date other girls but keep their own locked down.

Also - REMEMBER most of the guys you are talking to are descendants of people who formed their own militia against an oppressive government and kick their chittor. They were called the Khalsa...heard of them?

When all other means have failed it is righteous to draw the sword...................words of a great man, possibly one of the greatest..