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There's 2 types of ego, shudh(pure) and ashudh(impure). Impure ego is what we all have, where we hold this false world near our heart. It's only through Shudh ego that mwe realize our true, ever lasting, unchanging self ....

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mn qUM joiq srUpu hY Awpxw mUlu pCwxu ]

man thoo(n) joth saroop hai aapanaa mool pashhaan ||

O my mind, you are the embodiment of the Divine Light - recognize your own origin.

Papi, can you expand on that please?

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I think this tuk clears everything up !!! I'm pretty sure there has been discussion on this tuk before.

haumY dIrG rogu hY dwrU BI iesu mwih ]

houmai dheeragh rog hai dhaaroo bhee eis maahi ||

Ego is a chronic disease, but it contains its own cure as well.

I'm intrigued. How does it contain its own cure?

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Haumei is not Ahangkar

Because of Haumei ---> Kaam, Krodh, Lobh, Moh, Ahangkar exist in us.

The Panch doots are different from each other, but are on the same level.

If we read Gurbani, we will realize Guru Sahib mentions Haumei more than any other vikaar.Do you realize?

The ^above^ salok by Guru Nanak Dev Sahib Maharaj posted by P v2 is one fine example.

Also , take note. Bhai Gurdass jee said in his Vaara:

Vaheguroo , Gurmantar Hei, JAP HAUMEI KHOOEE.

The stress is more on eradicating Haumei, which is the root cause we are seperated from our SOURCE.

Gurparsad

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no

there is no "pure ego"

both words cannot go together

it does not make sense

saying "i am the worst etc" is not "pure" ego, its not ego at all, if of course you actually belive what you are saying

also please use references from gurbani to show one single instance where any "good" of the 5 chor are mentioned

the 5 chor are to be defeated. bir ras is NOT krodh, nor any manifestation of krodh.

we should not have attachemt to our family, lobh is not needed to live.

kaam is the desire for sexual pleasure. that is not needed for procreation

the aim of a gursikh is to defeat the 5 chor

AiDAwqm krm kry qw swcw ]

Those who live a spiritual lifestyle - they alone are true.

mukiq Bydu ikAw jwxY kwcw ]1]

What can the false know about the secrets of liberation? ||1||

AYsw jogI jugiq bIcwrY ]

Those who contemplate the Way are Yogis.

pMc mwir swcu auir DwrY ]1] rhwau ]

They conquer the five thieves, and enshrine the True Lord in the heart. ||1||Pause||

Please, correct me and show me where gurbani shows the 5 chor as being "good" in any way shape or form

so jnu swcw ij haumY mwrY ]

Those humble beings are true, who conquer their ego.

gur kY sbid pMc sMGwrY ]

Through the Word of the Guru's Shabad, they conquer the five thieves.

Awip qrY sgly kul qwrY ]4]

They save themselves, and save all their generations as well. ||4||

recognise your origin means recognise that you came from vahiguru and that is our final and true destination

also just by saying "i am the worst, i commit many paaps, i am nothing" does NOT necessarily mean that you are humble and devoid of ego. if you do not belive in what you say, then it is just lies and another form of ego by making people think youre humble

that is my opinion

i will speak to elder gursikhs and see what their opinion is

until then good day

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