What Is Akath Katha

[lowest of the low singhni]

I don't think he is being confusing Besoft. From the Shabad posted and the meanings of the Ang highlighted, it would appear that you are asking us to explain something which Gurbani quite clearly says is indescribable. Perhaps this 'Unspoken Speech' is something personal which is to be experienced between Guru Saheb and the devotee.

Check this out for slightly more in-depth meanings of the Shabad.

http://www.gurugranthdarpan.com/darpan2/1002.html

[besoft]

I'm not even trying to make fun of you. You think can completely understand Gurbani?????? If so, I must say you are quite mistaken, my friend.

Yesterday your friend told me that akath katha is gurbani

No, I never said that.

Yes, You did not say this .But it is your duty as a sikh as well to tell as to what is the right answer.Look friend I have spent the entire day studying about 7 pages of Granth sahib. That is all.I posted some questions.More than 80 % of my questions are still questions as my doubts are not removed.If i proceed at this spped it will take me about two years to finish the first reading.I hope you understand my problem.

kindly help.

[besoft]

I don't think he is being confusing Besoft. From the Shabad posted and the meanings of the Ang highlighted, it would appear that you are asking us to explain something which Gurbani quite clearly says is indescribable. Perhaps this 'Unspoken Speech' is something personal which is to be experienced between Guru Saheb and the devotee.

Check this out for slightly more in-depth meanings of the Shabad.

http://www.gurugranthdarpan.com/darpan2/1002.html

Respected Friend,

The link is not functional and I am also not good at understanding shabads,.Why don't you also help me out.

Thanks and regards to all.

[Revolutionary]

Read Anand Sahib.. somewhere there.. (exams tmo so.. no time!)

[besoft]

o.k.

[munjoth]

Thank you Munjoth ji for nice explanation Of Akath Katha and also advising me that it can be heard only if one is in Fourth state of spirituality.My appreciation is not like yours.I am grasping the concept.What is the meaning of 5 elements.

I think you misunderstood my post, akath katha tells u the path to get pass this bhav sagar. It is done by those that have crossed over and can now tell you the path, all of gurbani is akath katha - but to understand it u must meet those that know it! For we are translating gurbani with our own thinking. The other kathas (prem kathni, amar katha, gooj katha) can only be heard in the fourth state of spirituality.

What is the meaning of 5 elements

OUR BODY IS MADE OF FIVE ELEMENTS(WATER,AIR,FIRE,EARTH AND

EATHER/AKAASH).GURU ARJAN DEV JI IN SUKHMANI SAHIB VERY ELABORATELY

DESCRIBES THE TECHNIQUE TO TRANSCEND THE FIVE ELEMENTS.

1. AIR ELEMENT: GURUJI TELL US HOW TO CONCENTRATE THE MIND AND

TRANSCEND THIS ELEMENT.THE ATMOSPHERIC AIR SOMETIMES FLOWS GENTLE AND

IS AT OTHER TIMES FAST AND STORMY. THE PAON TAT (THE AIR ELEMENT)

WITHIN THE BODY BEHAVES THE SAME WAY.ITS FLOW RISES AND EBBS. THE

UNSTEADY BEHAVIOR OF AIR DISTURBS OUR MENTAL EQUILIBRIUM. WE NEED

GURU SHABAD TO STEADY AND FOCUS OUR MIND IN THE VORTEX OF WIND WITHIN.

JIO MANDIR KO THAAMAI THAMAN

TIO GUR KAA SHABAD MANAH ASTHAMAN (PAGE 282)

2. WATER ELEMENT: AS A BOAT IS NEEDED TO CROSS A RIVER; SO, IS THE

GURUSHABAD NEEDED TO FERRY MIND ACROSS THE WATER ELEMENT WITHIN THIS

BODY.GURBANI SAYS.

JIO PAAKHAAN NAAV CHARH TARAI

PRAANEE GUR CHARAN LAGAT NISTARAI (PAGE 282)

3. FIRE ELEMENT: TO PROTECT OURSELVES FROM THE ATMOSPHERIC HEAT, WE

SEEK SHELTER IN THE SHADE. WE DO HAVE THE ELEMENT OF FIRE WITHIN THE

BODY. GURU SHABAD PROVIDES SHADY SHELTER TO OUR MIND AND PROTECTS IT

FROM THE HEAT OF THE FIRE WITHIN.

JAH MAHAA BHA-I-AAN TAPTA BAHU GHAAM

TAH HAR KE NAAM KEE TUM OOPER CHHAAM ( PAGE 264)

WHERE THERE IS AWESOME AND TERRIBLE HEAT AND BLAZING SUNSHINE,

THERE ,THE NAME OF LORD WILL GIVE YOU SHADE.

DHARTI TAT ( EARTH ELEMENT):AS WE NEED LIGHT TO GO THROUGH DARKNESS;

SO WE NEED LIGHT OF GURU SHABAD TO SEE OUR WAY THROUGH THE DARKNESS

OF THIS EARTH ELEMENTS WITHIN.

JEH PAINDAI MAHAA ANDH GUBAARA

HAR KA NAAM SANG UJEEAARAA (PAGE 264)

SKY ELEMENTS: SPACE IS INFINITE AND DISTANCES VERY LONG.EMBARKING

UPON A LONG JOURNEY WE NEED FOOD AND WATER FOR SURVIVAL.TO COMPLETE

THIS LONG JOURNEY WITHIN THE INNER SPACE,WE NEED GURU GIVEN FOOD OF

GURU SHABAD.

JIH MAARAG KE GANE JAAHE NA KOSAA

HAR KA NAAM OOHAA SANG TOSSA (PAGE 264)

BHAI GURDASSJI HAS ALSO WITTEN ON THE SUBJECT OF OVERCOMING THE

INFLUENCE OF THE FIVE ELEMENTS.

PAWAN PANI BAISANTRO DHARAT AAKASH ULANGH PAIYANA.

(from another board by saint and soldier)

i know ive repeated this alot of times but goto that site and listen to the akath katha and then ask questions because you will then understand all of this in much finer detail, why? Because bhai sewa singh has done the practical, walked this path and is now tell every1 else about it. Everything taught is in line with gurbani, sikhi is practical.

[besoft]

Thank you again. I visited the site but the Katha is mainly in Punjabi.I do not know Punjabi.I can only read gurmukhi only for limited purpose. I thank you again.

You may suggest some other site from where i can listen the katha of the Granth sahib.

Thank you.

If you please you may send PM.

For me this thread is closed.