Bhangra And Sikhism

[KhoonKaBadlaKhoon]

The problem isn't the Bhangra it's that it's not part of GurSikhi. I surprisingly was one of the people who voted no comment because it's part of what Sikhs do that is wrong. It's like premarital sex is in Christianity, lots of Christians do it therefore it just becomes part of the broader Christian culture. (Regardless of what Jesus Christ actually taught about that even staring at a woman with lustful eyes commits adultery).

Lots of Sikhs engage in pre-martial sex, so is pre-marital sex a broader part of Sikhi too? Pre maritial sex is more so Western culture, similar to how Bhangra is part of Punjabi culture, just end up criss crossing.

[eduardo]

Anyway a bit of self indulgence on my part.

Try linking Christianity to this:

[eduardo]

When your heroes give only apologies:

[eduardo]

Very Nyce:

[JagsawSingh]

Sory Eduardo but I'm pretty sure the point of this thread was not so Bhangra lovers could post videos of their famous bhangra tracks. Its been a while since I visited the first page or even the title of the thread but I'm pretty sure it didn't go along the lines of 'Bhangra's brilliant isn't it ? Who's your favourite singers ? Post their videos here please'

[eduardo]

Its been a while since I visited the first page or even the title of the thread but I'm pretty sure it didn't go along the lines of 'Bhangra's brilliant isn't it ? Who's your favourite singers ? Post their videos here please'

Sorry about that, can you point me to a good Bhangra thread somewhere.

But honestly I think there is a link between Sikh morality and Bhangra and if you try to disown Bhangra you will disown a massive part of your culture.

[JagsawSingh]

Sorry about that, can you point me to a good Bhangra thread somewhere.

But honestly I think there is a link between Sikh morality and Bhangra and if you try to disown Bhangra you will disown a massive part of your culture.

I'm not arguing with you on that Eduardo, after all, I'm the one who on a previous page said this :

Bhangra in itself, when you take away the nightclub / alcohol fuelled wedding reception element from the equation, is a seriously wonderfull excercise for the body.

But I'm going to go a bit deeper here now and I loathe to do it because I'm often criticised here on this form for sharing my knowledge of history too much. Way too many people here hate it when I do but the way I look at it, what use is all this knowledge inside my head if I'm not gonna share it with my people, and you ARE my people.

OK....lets start with this simple question. Of all the animals mentioned in Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji which animal is mentioned the most ?

The answer is the CRANE bird. And thats because throughout our history, especially in our Guru ji's times, the Crane bird was the symbol of Punjab, just like the kiwi is the symbol of New Zealand or the springbok the symbol of south africa. Every winter, the Cranes would fly down from Siberia and settle in the plains of Punjab en-masse. In so many ways, the Crane symbolised the character and mannersims of the people of the Punjab and that is why Guru jis and so many of the bhagats used it so often as a metaphor in SGGS ji.

Now, the next question is what does the Crane bird do ? The answer is that it dances. So many people dancing bhangra today don't realise that many of those movements are in fact a mimic of the dancing movements of the Crane. The glorious dancing movements of the Crane are in fact the origins of vigorous movements we make in bhangra.

Now, to the real nitty gritty and trust me this is where we seperate the Sikhs from the Punjabis.

The symbol of Punjab no longer bothers with Punjab. The glorious natural environment of the Punjab is no more. Punjabis knock down trees and build ugly concrete monstrocities in their place. Punjabis reclaim the natural wetlands of Punjab and build ridiculously unesseccary massive houses in their place. So, for the last 20 or 30 years do you know what the great historic symbol of Punjab now does ? This great symbol of Punjab that inspired our Gurus and bhagats so has washed its hands of the Punjab. Every winter, this great bird now flies down from Siberia, takes one look down at the Punjab and decides it would rather fly south to Rajhastan and haryana instead. And therein lies the irony: Ignorant Punjabis express their Punjabi pride by dancing to the movements of what is now a Rajhastani bird !!

So how do the Sikhs come into this, in contrast with the Punjabis ? Well, for a start, not only does our concept of sarbat da bhalla teach us to care for the world as a whole but our 7th master Sri Guru Har Rai was the world's first and foremost envionmentalist.

We 'Sikhs' must rise above the septic ignorance of the 'Punjabi'. Just as all the Gurus together are one we must learn individual lessons from them all to become great 'ones' (people). For example, we must reason with ourselves as to why SGGS ji mentions the Crane more than any other living creature........we must implement Guru Har Rai's love and respect for the environment.....we must become great scholars the way Sri Guru Gobind Singh ji was when he out-mastered the Farsi scholars in farsi. That way, we'll begin to develop a greater understanding of things and I think when we do, we'll come to the conclusion that away from vulgar lyrics and presence of alcohol surroundings, the bhangra is a great way of keeping our bodies subtle and fit.

[Guest Jacfsing2]

Sorry about that, can you point me to a good Bhangra thread somewhere.

But honestly I think there is a link between Sikh morality and Bhangra and if you try to disown Bhangra you will disown a massive part of your culture.

I voted "no comment" and even I feel like there is a better place to put non-Gurbani your free to make your own thread to post your favorite bhangra.

[eduardo]

your free to make your own thread to post your favorite bhangra.

I think I might do that if that's Ok although I know nothing about the subject and will probably stumble about in the darkness.

I mean what section is it supposed to go in?

[Guest Jacfsing2]

I think I might do that if that's Ok although I know nothing about the subject and will probably stumble about in the darkness.

I mean what section is it supposed to go in?

Put it under media under tv channels.