Why Do We Sikhs Behave Like Fools On The Road By Brandishing Kirpans ?

[Guest PunjabSingh]

More on silent activities of Durga Vahini :

http://www.alrc.net/doc/mainfile.php/alrc_statements/442

http://www.dailyexcelsior.com/web1/04mar19/state.htm#8

http://www.frontlineonnet.com/fl1603/16030130.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durga_Vahini

http://www.mail-archive.com/chhattisgarh-n...m/msg00159.html

http://indianchristians.in/news/content/view/1440/57/

http://www.holocaustinkashmir.50megs.com/ka04005.html (Here it is mentioned here VHP (one of whose outfits is Durga Vahini ) considers rapists of nuns and other non hindus as "Patriots" .

http://www.onlinevolunteers.org/gujarat/re...3/annexures.pdf (Role of Durga Vahini in Gujrat riots)

Besides Durga Vahini there is one Hindu women's oganisation "Matri Shakti" also

Mai Bhaago(Mata Bhaag Kaur) regiment where are you ?

[Raju]

>> considers rapists of nuns and other non hindus as "Patriots"

these guys are funny and have a twisted imagination. these days the instances of such exhibition of patriotism have grown less but I still remember during early 2000s when these "Patriots" used to rape helpless nuns and rape helpless muslim women in Gujrat and consider it chivalrous.

these jokers are basically playing around like a sword which has just been given to a monkey and it knows not which way to swing it.

btw a lot of people blame KPS Gill on this forum. But one creditworthy he did was that when the Gujarat riots were at its peak, the state police and paramilitary (we can call it 'hindu' paramilitary I guess, it was called PAC (Provincial Armed Constabulary)) used to only open fire on muslim rioters in an hindu-muslim riot.

But after KPS Gill was given charge of controlling Gujarat riot he asked the police guys to open fire on the other side (the hindu side) and that is how the riot was quickly bought to an end. The 30-40% casualty that hindus suffered during the riots were purely after KPS Gill took over charge.

Before that only muslims were getting shot and killed. Both by rioters as well as by local police

[Guest peacemaker]

THE PERSON WHO STARTED THIS THREAD IS NOT A SIKH. IF YOU ARE THE ONE READING THIS (YOU ARE NOT A SIKH)

It made my day to finally see you rejoin the general population of this forum almost two years to the day after you last posted. This certainly doesn't go unnoticed and it is much appreciated to see your passion burn strong once again, Pritam Singh! Thank you!

[vikramjitsingh]

I am a Sikh and I believe that Bal Thakrey is a communal man, but in the case of him criticising Sikhs for brandishing Kirpans , well – there he is right.

Sikhs pickup their Kirpans at the slightest reason and start misbehaving on the roads. Why, do we think we are very brave ? I want to educate my fellow Sikhs about this Khalsa bravery rubbish in our heads which title actually the Bristish gave us

The White man has colonized the whole world only by going to a native land, and identifying pockets of idiots in some areas of that native land whom he could use to fight for him. The American s had their Muslim Idiots – The Afghans - against the Russians, The British had their Hindu idiots – the Gurkhas .

Of course we are primarily concerned with the the Sikh idiots the British identified – our great community of lions and *edited*, who were so happy with the title brave that they went to a country France, to fight for another country – England, against a 3^rd country Germany.

Sure – we fought the wars against Pakistan. But that is because Pakistan is at Punjabs doorstep and it came naturally to us to defend Punjab. If Pakistan was 1000 km away from Punjab, how many Sikhs would be in the army ?

We like to over exaggerate our bravery. We like to imagine that Guru Gobind Singh and Ranjit Singh were like Alexander of Greece or Genghis Khan of Mongolia. That is not true. *edited*

*edited*

Here we go again - *edited*. The topic was about taking the Kirpan on the road, and not about any perceived insult to our Guru.

But let me answer the above. WE ( 0.2 % OR LESS ) feel that Guru Gobind Singh was a Guru. In the eyes of the rest of the world, he was a warrior. We cannot behave like frogs in the well and convince ourselves that the Khalsa viewpoint is the only one worth discussing.

As revolutionary said – "It seems they're starting to copy islamists with their violent protests.." Lets all ( whatever our differences with each other ) stay on common ground. Our common ground is that we love our religion, our identity, and the respect that we still get from the majority of the Indians. Lets not ruin that.

Amongst Muslims too, only a fraction called the extreme Right wing is mad, but this fraction has become very powerful. The hindu extreme right wing also exists, but they are in control of the majority of peace loving Hindus.

The majority amongst us Sikhs should realize that we are a successful, thriving community within India, we have no reason to feel insecure. *edited*

MOD EDIT

Saad Sangath Ji,

Fateh

The ancestors of the people who are objecting to Sikhs protesting with unsheathed Kirpans had no objections when Sikhs raised their Kirpans against Islamic forces to fight agianst Islamic oppression of Hindus or against the British Raaj during the Idependence movement.

Point to be noted is there no fatalities on account of the Kirpans in Mumbai.

And please do remember when justice is not delivered people do take law into their own hands. This Dera Chief has been thumbing his nose at the law for some time.

Guru Rakha

[gurmeetjodhey]

why need to shout ?

cant we do anything, rather everything secretly ?

what message we convey to the world by brandishing swords ?

it is the established truth that sikhs have cultivated prosperity amidst every hardship, hatered and "multiplied designed competition"

news items shown on TV channels, sikhs stopping trains do not have "guru ki mohar" on their heads

when they show clashes between dera followers and guru ke sikh, the common man could not understand "why sikhs fighting with each other"

so bretheren dont just throw slogans in air, be true sikhs and be united first.

keep your powers within yourself, so that at the time of need we can unitly show it to the operassors.

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