What Is Happening?

[jii]

can someone please explain to me what are these riots about regarding sucha sada what ever his name is?

who is this guy, ive heard of him about 1 year ago, but i do not have the full facts. i heard he was wearing Guru Godinds ghallki. what is the story on him now and what is he about and how does this relate to the riots?

sorry for my lack of knowledge, i do not mean to offend anyone.

[Singhson]

can someone please explain to me what are these riots about regarding sucha sada what ever his name is?

who is this guy, ive heard of him about 1 year ago, but i do not have the full facts. i heard he was wearing Guru Godinds ghallki. what is the story on him now and what is he about and how does this relate to the riots?

sorry for my lack of knowledge, i do not mean to offend anyone.

Yeah he did indeed, he went into hiding and did not apologise for it in person, only the organisation.

Basically its a twisted 'religious' group that is lead by "Gurmeet Ram Rahim Singh". If I'm correct, apparently the philosophy of this organisation apparently teaches Hindu, Islamic, and Sikh beliefs, hence the leaders name.

The leader has been accused of rape, murder and other things and nothing as yet has happened to him. This is why the Sikhs are protesting.

Something like that

[Guroo Guroo Jaap]

He also created "his own" Amrit ceremony. Where Guru Mahraj had 5 Pyare, this ****** had 7, one of whom was a mona!!!!!!!

[apne]

Gurmeet Ram Rahim Singh is a head of a cult in Haryana and claims to be inter-faith religious group. In early 2002 one of his female disciple wrote a letter to President of India, Prime Minister of India and Chief Justice of Punjab High Court that ram rahim raped her and got her pregnant. He forced her to go for abortion. She said that ram rahim rapes many of his female disciples regularly. He does not allow these women to go outside the Dera and forces them to have physical relations with them. The theory given by him is "You have surrendered everything to satguru and i am satguru hence everything belongs to me" The girl did not reveal her name, she feared that ram rahim will kill her. She asked for help in rescuing her and other girls from dera.

A journalist exposed his misdeeds in his newspaper and he was killed on orders of ram rahim. The case was reffered to CBI. CBI operated some undercover agents in his dera for a year to gather truth. According to CBI there have been around 70 abortions done on female disciples in Dera and many are physically exloited by ram rahim.

Ram Rahim tried to make a deal with Badal and BJP to influence the invetigations against him.(the investigations had come to close and it was evident that Badal was going to be next CM of Punjab) Ram Rahim said that he would help Akali Dal win the elections but in return they would have to support him in influencing the investigations against him. Badal refused. So ram rahim struck a deal with Amarinder singh and congress. He would help them win the elections and they would help him in winning the cases against him. He supported the congress but congress did not come to power. But Ram rahim got high in his ability to influence election results (around 25 seats were won by Congress due to call given by ram rahim to his followers).

So he hatched a conspiracy. He attired himself as Guru Gobind singh and mocked the ceremony of vaisakhi 1699. He had hoped that it would result in communal clashes across Punjab (His dera claims to have 1.5 crore followers). His theory was that because of unstability Badal would be forced to resign and there would be fresh elections. In that elections congress would win and form the government. so, as part of deal congress would help him in escaping from clutches of CBI.(as central govt is congress and CBI is answerable only to Centre)

In addition to that he thought that by mocking Guru gobind singh, his religious reputation would increase.

His was a carefully thought out plan, but it backfired. He hurt Sikh sentiments and made fun of Sikhi. His actions incited communal clashes and voilence. So, it turned the whole Sikh population against him. His 1.5 crore following is in hiding and ram rahim is looking for a place to hide.

[jii]

Gurmeet Ram Rahim Singh is a head of a cult in Haryana and claims to be inter-faith religious group. In early 2002 one of his female disciple wrote a letter to President of India, Prime Minister of India and Chief Justice of Punjab High Court that ram rahim raped her and got her pregnant. He forced her to go for abortion. She said that ram rahim rapes many of his female disciples regularly. He does not allow these women to go outside the Dera and forces them to have physical relations with them. The theory given by him is "You have surrendered everything to satguru and i am satguru hence everything belongs to me" The girl did not reveal her name, she feared that ram rahim will kill her. She asked for help in rescuing her and other girls from dera.

A journalist exposed his misdeeds in his newspaper and he was killed on orders of ram rahim. The case was reffered to CBI. CBI operated some undercover agents in his dera for a year to gather truth. According to CBI there have been around 70 abortions done on female disciples in Dera and many are physically exloited by ram rahim.

Ram Rahim tried to make a deal with Badal and BJP to influence the invetigations against him.(the investigations had come to close and it was evident that Badal was going to be next CM of Punjab) Ram Rahim said that he would help Akali Dal win the elections but in return they would have to support him in influencing the investigations against him. Badal refused. So ram rahim struck a deal with Amarinder singh and congress. He would help them win the elections and they would help him in winning the cases against him. He supported the congress but congress did not come to power. But Ram rahim got high in his ability to influence election results (around 25 seats were won by Congress due to call given by ram rahim to his followers).

So he hatched a conspiracy. He attired himself as Guru Gobind singh and mocked the ceremony of vaisakhi 1699. He had hoped that it would result in communal clashes across Punjab (His dera claims to have 1.5 crore followers). His theory was that because of unstability Badal would be forced to resign and there would be fresh elections. In that elections congress would win and form the government. so, as part of deal congress would help him in escaping from clutches of CBI.(as central govt is congress and CBI is answerable only to Centre)

In addition to that he thought that by mocking Guru gobind singh, his religious reputation would increase.

His was a carefully thought out plan, but it backfired. He hurt Sikh sentiments and made fun of Sikhi. His actions incited communal clashes and voilence. So, it turned the whole Sikh population against him. His 1.5 crore following is in hiding and ram rahim is looking for a place to hide.

..okay, and so is this ram rahim the sucha sada guy? and how does this relate to the riots going on in india. why are the police beating innocent indians, who have those indians done wrong?

[republicofkhalistan]

Excuse me Mr. Jii, police is beating innocent SIKHS not innocent INDIANS.

[Anonymous_kaur]

and his name is LUCHA SAUDAAA !!!!

[jii]

^^^ Sorry for my mistakes republic of khalistan and Anonymous kaur.

Forgive me for not highlight that Sikhs were being beaten, however I assumed some Sikhs were from the Indians race? Also in regards to naming LUCHA SAUDAAA, I did not know as the name I made reference to was taken from a youtube video.

I meant no offence and I apologise for my mistakes.

[SunSingh]

^^^ Sorry for my mistakes republic of khalistan and Anonymous kaur.

Forgive me for not highlight that Sikhs were being beaten, however I assumed some Sikhs were from the Indians race? Also in regards to naming LUCHA SAUDAAA, I did not know as the name I made reference to was taken from a youtube video.

I meant no offence and I apologise for my mistakes.

unlike in the west where we can protest peacefully without fear of police brutality, in india the police regularly beat and violate the civil rights of protesters. police seem to be generally poorly trained in respecting peoples human rights and the rule of law in india is rather weak compared to western countries.

[republicofkhalistan]

Forgive me for not highlight that Sikhs were being beaten, however I assumed some Sikhs were from the Indians race?

1. Excuse me Mr. Jii, there is nothing such as Indian Race. In a race, people resemble each other, atleast a little bit. If Indians are, then how come Bengalis are dark, thin and smaller in height compared to Punjabis, who are slightly fairer (not all, but many), average taller and not that thin?

People of Republic of India, are from races such as Aryans, Astriks/Agnesh, Negros (africans who migrated to India long ago), Dravidians etc.

Most Sikhs are Punjabis with Aryan ancestry, with some Punjabis having traces of greek, persian, arabian looks. Because of Alexander the Great, Arab invaders, Mughal invaders etc.

2. My dear friend, you have to be specific in life. I could also state that the Indian Police is beating 'humans'. That would be indeed true, but the reader won't know who exactly got beaten up...