How Should Be Interrupt Pathans Glorying Ahmed Shah Abdali?

[mann_kaum_layee_qurbaan]

veer sarpanch,

i think you did a nice job of expressing your thoughts. you illustrated a nice grasp on the progression of events throughout the sikh experience.

I would have liked to say this to you in a private message, but I think it may serve a better purpose if I state it for everyone to read.

I personally think you have a lot of passion and have the gist of what the issue is. I think you have a lot to offer this forum in terms of passion. I think the reason you rub some people on thsi forum in a wrong way is that sometimes you are a bit aggressive in driving home your point, which you were not in the previous post, i would say.

In all honesty, before I even made the effort with waheguru's kirpa to read gurbaani, i had immense hatred for Hindus, the people. It was there, no lying about it. When I started reading gurbaani, and did veechar, because just reading gurbaani as some mantar, or ritual is worthless without vichaar and implementation, I learned something.

To fight people is worthless. To fight ideas is worthwhile. To protest a person's actions is meaningful. I learned what sikhs' actually fight against. we fight against ideas, and actions which subjugate humans under inhumane laws and treatment. we fight against ideas which are established to undermine a human beings capacity to be free, mentally and physically.

Sikhs fight for ideas which liberate people from mental tyranny and physical imprisonment. how can i justify these views? OUr gurus lived this concept. They freed Sikhs and fellow countrymen from the clutches of Brahmin ritualism which made some higher than others, which made some the dirt on which the high ones walked upon. Guru Hargobind singh ji's, bandi chor diwas, freed men from phisical imprisonment. guru granth sahib ji continues to free people from spiritual bondage to superstition and scare tactics to subdue the human spirituality which is in true essence born free, because it is is the jot of akaal, or God.

So my point is, as long as you direct your passion against the ideas which try to subdue the sikhs and others, people will understand you or at least give you the benefit of the doubt.

you have pain in your heart. its a start. dukh hunda, ta fer hi banda doctor kol jaanda. doctor sahib, guru granth sahib ji hazar nazar ah.

if you tone down the rhetoric as you have done in this previous post, and express your thoughts in such a way that projects sikhi, then i'll bet people will give you the time and day.

i'm not saying i do this, but i always try. because at teh end of the day, if we don't try to represnt guru sahib's teachings, we're representing nothing but our false ego, which leads to nothing.

so, stay passionate brother, i feel ya, just remember that out of all the hindus, Muslims, christians, etc etc, may be future khalsas one day.

keep on figting the good fight.

take care.

peace.

[tec9]

Very patronising above comments!!

[mann_kaum_layee_qurbaan]

Very patronising above comments!!

that wasn't my intention.

i was actually impressed by his previous post and commented on how it was very good. my intention was to encourage him to continue posting in that way.

some people have been on sarpanch's case and i was just trying to let him know that his intentions are passionate but people miss his point because he may come off a bit aggressive.

if that seems condescending, then i don't think you actually read the post.

chalo.

peace.

[tec9]

Yea right mate it seem your very encouraging. Praise is normally nice one, good work, hit the nail on the head. Sharpanch saab we live in demarcate part of the world, feel free to express what ever you have to say. The Sikhs fought very hard in both world wars so we could have freedom of speech!

[soormah]

Yea right mate it seem your very encouraging. Praise is normally nice one, good work, hit the nail on the head. Sharpanch saab we live in demarcate part of the world, feel free to express what ever you have to say. The Sikhs fought very hard in both world wars so we could have freedom of speech!

tru :goodpost:

[Muzumdar]

This is my last post on the matter Raju, but I will see you on the other thread you have started about 'the Western intellectual framework'.

Arre baba, he didn't espouse any anti-Western theories. This fact about Manmohan Singh was espoused by Dr. Ashok Mitra in his book 'the Prattler's rattle' or something. Dr. Ashok Mitra alleged that India was forced to appoint Shri Manmohan Singh as FM during PV Narasimha Rao's regime due to pressure from World Bank (MMS was an employee of WB at that time).

We will have to agree to disagree. There was no need to appoint anyone, the centre's power in India is supreme, it could have done what it wanted without having to appoint a puppet.

Seconly MJ Akbar has been very consistent in opposing the Indo-US nuclear deal

Becasue he is a leftist, unlike Indira.

and as a result just two months ago, Sonia G weighed upon the owners of Asian Age/Deccan Herald to chuck him out of its editorship.

This is true.

Asian Age had two writers in Seema Mustafa and MJ Akbar who were constantly writing in anti-establishment and anti-Congress articles.

When I said that Akbar was a Congress lover, I was referring to the Congress of old, the Nerhu Congress.

Let us put this matter to bed now, although it has been very enjoyable sparring with you.

[spamindersingh]

If Pathans want to gorify Abdali then what is your problem with that ? He beat the Marathas in 1761 and that alone is worth boasting about.

You get people on the forum glorifying the likes of Reyat so nothing wrong with Pathans doing likewise with Abdali.

[Sikhi03]

On a few youtube video's, afghan and pasthun pathan muslim's are glorifing the evil ahmed shah abdali calling him so called "father of the afghan/pathan nation". How should we Sikhs take such glorification of an evil tyrant? who was responsible for unwarrented murderous invasions into northern India and the henious crimes against many peoples including the Sikhs. Are the pathans ignorant of his crimes? or deliberately support his policies and what he stood for?

DO YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW WE SHUT TELL THE PATHANS TO SHUT THE <banned word filter activated> UP OKAY WELL READ THIS

How the vast Afghani Empire on Punjabi soil disappeared in Kasur, Multan, Kashmir and Peshawar is a subject closely associated with the campaigns of Sardar Hari Singh Nalua, the Marshal of the Khalsa and terror for the Afghans. Being the 'Murat of the Khalsa' as he was appropriately called by Sir Henry Griffin, the famous British dignitary and a prominent writer of significant treatise on the Sikhs, his name figures among those patriots who participated bravely rather passionately in almost all battles fought constantly against the Afghans during the Sikh rule under Maharaja Ranjit Singh for a period of three decades from A.D. 1807 to A.D. 1837.

Sardar Hari Singh Nalua, the typical product of his age was born at Gujranwala now in the West Pakistan in A.D. 1791 in Uppal family in the house of Sardar Gurdial Singh to Dharam Kaur. He was the only son of his parents. The ancestors of Nalua Sardars were originally from Majitha town situated in the vicinity of Amritsar. His grandfather Sardar Hardas Singh engaged in the service of Sukarchakia Misl was killed in an expedition undertaken by the Misl in A.D. 1762. Gurdial Singh, the father of Sardar Hari Singh Nalua followed the profession of his father and took part in various campaigns of Sukarchakia Sardars - Charat Singh and Mahan Singh in the capacity of Deradar .

He expired in 1798 when Hari Singh was only seven years of age and was thus looked after with care and caution by his maternal uncle who took him to his house. In those days training in the feats of war was deemed necessary and physical education attracted much attention. Accordingly, Hari Singh who was physically quite stout and strong and impressive too in appearance when grew up, learnt the art of warfare. It is said that he was indefatigable and could sit on horse back for long hours. Hari Singh received his preliminary education in languages of Gurmukhi, Urdu, Persian. Baron Charles Hugel states that Hari Singh besides his general knowledge about the statistics of many of the European states, was well versed in Persian. He impressed him extremely with his overall achievements.

Hari Singh was administered Pahul when grew up and assumed the responsibility of supervising the affairs of his father's jagir. Hari Singh presented himself before Maharaja Ranjit Singh in his open darbar which he used to hold for a week or so on the eve of Basant fair every year. The Maharaja was so impressed by the feats of chivalry shown by him that he was taken in the royal service as a personal khidmatgar or an attendant. Maharaja commissioned him in 1804 A.D. by granted him a command of 700 footmen and horses with the honour of Sardar. Why Hari Singh is called "Nalua" and not Uppal. The reason is that he came to be know by the said title by way of an incident which took place during the early days of his joining the service of Maharaja Ranjit Singh. During the course of hunting expedition he happened to be a victim of a sudden attack of a tiger. The attack was so suttle and unexpected that he did not gain time to pull out his sword. Sardar Hari Singh Nalua faced the crucial situation with such boldness that he managed to catch hold of the jaw of the beast forcefully with his hands and pushed it away with the prowess of arms arranging thus to kill it with his sword. Baron Charles Hugel says he was called Nalua for 'having cloven the head of a tiger who had already seized him as its pray'.

The Sikhs often passing through a series of vicissitudes, first establish themselves as a political power in the Punjab in 1765 A.D. But their mode of fighting then was desultory and hardly suited to the requirements of a well-settled state, However Maharaja Ranjit Singh 'Built up a strong , centralized and effectively controlled military system by amalgamating the best elements in foreign with best elements found in the indigenous fighting mechanisms. Hari Singh Nalua's significant military campaign was that of Kasur, the so called 'mythological rival of Lahore', in 1807 A.D. Hari Singh Nalua along with Sardar Jodh Singh Ramgarhia, Sardar Nihal Singh Attari, Baba Akali Phula Singh, Fateh Singh Ahluwalia, Dhanna Singh Malwai, and Sardar Fateh Singh Kalianwala marched on to Kasur to subjugate its Afghani owner Kutab-ud-din Khan. Sikhs laid siege for three months after which Kutab-ud-din Khan surrendered. Hari Singh Nalua, of course, was the first to march inside the city gate of Kasur with his division called 'Sher-Dil-Rajman.' The troops under him caught Kutab-Ud-Din alive and presented him before Maharaja Ranjit Singh. Maharaja Ranjit Singh made him retire to a territory of Mamdot as a jagir, subject to his supplying 100 horsemen for service when required.

Sardar Hari Singh Nalua's next significant military achievement was to reduce to submission Sardar Jiwan Singh, the ruler of Sialkot who was asked by the Maharaja to surrender his possessions. Jiwan Singh gave tough fight for two days after which he raised his hands in peace. The strategic significance of Sialkot lay in the fact that it was a very fertile tract extending its dimensions up to Jammu. Moreover, Maharaja Ranjit Singh after bringing to submission a major part of the Central Punjab made it a centre of his further political aggrandizement.

Hari Singh Nalua's next significant military achievement was the conquest of Multan. before annexing Multan in 1818 A.D., six expeditions were sent by the suzerain of Lahore. Resultantly tribute was collected every time, annexation was never visualized and attempted. Hari Singh contributed in all of these six campaigns as well as conquest of Multan. Multan had a great commercial and strategic importance having been the gateway of Afghanistan. It is stated that working boats from the Jhelum, Ravi and Chenab were forced to work for invariable supply of provisions. Illahi Bux of the artillery forces of Ranjit Singh made conspicuous arrangements for battering the forts of Multan. During Mughal rule it was an important headquarter and fell into Afghan custody after the fall of empire. After Multan, Sardar Hari Singh also subjugated the territories of Mitha Tiwana, Rajauri, Naushera, etc. from which strip tribute was realized for the kingdom of Lahore.

Then Maharaja turned towards Kashmir. Hari Singh Nalua's regiment was in forefront in campaign to get back Shah Shuja from the Governor of Kashmir, Shah Shuja's wife Wafa Begum had promised Kohinoor Diamond for Maharaja if her husband was to be freed from prison of Kashmir. In 1814 A.D., Hari Singh forces routed Kashmiris forces. Shah Shuja gave Ranjit Singh Kohinoor Diamond, from that day on till his death Maharaja Ranjit Singh wore that Diamond on his right shoulder, it was his pride. Hari Singh Nalua was appointed Governor of Kashmir. Immediately, he ordered to ban cow slaughter, such was an effect that to this day, Kashmiri Muslims don't eat beef. Jaziya, etc , the taxes which Hindu and Sikh population had to pay to their Muslim rulers for "not being a Muslim" were eradicated. For these obvious reasons, several Muslim historian had labelled Hari Singh Nalua as a tyrant. His rule they called "Sikha Shahi" or the "Rule of Sikhs." But no matter what, Hari Singh Nalua and his forces never destroyed any Mosques or abducted Muslim Women, etc. all those atrocities which Mughals and Pathans had committed on the local non-Muslims population. (It was around 1700's A.D that majority of Punjabi population became Muslim owing to the atrocities by Aurangzeb the sixth Mughal emperor) .

The Afghanis of North West region across river Indus around Peshawar were divided into several tribes (They still are). They were sort of savage people which would not obey any rule. From time to time the Punjabi forces from Lahore were sent there to put them down. Each time they would offer some tribute and then again revolt. To totally take control of these areas Maharaja Ranjit Singh give command to Hari Singh Nalua. Also to stop the attacks of Afghanis on Punjabi soil, Maharaja Ranjit Singh and others decided to put a series of forts to built up the defenses of the Punjabi frontier. From Attock to the Khyber Pass series of small forts were built under Hari Singh Nalua to keep Afghanis in check. The most important part of this fortification was to put a complete halt at invaders who had attacked India entering from Khyber pass in West, starting with Greeks in 500 B.C.. So after 2300 Years of constant defeat and humiliation of Punjabi and Indian people Maharaja Ranjit Singh was able to totally shut down this historic route of invasion into India. It had been used by Greeks, Turks, Arabs, Mughals, Mongols, Tatars, Afghanis, etc. And on top of that there is no denying fact that Maharaja Ranjit Singh was quite conscious of the significance of North West frontier province for the defense of his territorial acquisitions.

A significant battle was fought here by Hari Singh Nalua when he defeated and caught the self styled Rajput chief Ghulam ali and send him over to Lahore. Maharaja was so happy that he allowed Hari Singh to strike a coin in his name in Kashmir. Then in the tract of Pakhli and Dhamtur Nalua with his usual sagacity and vision, was able to pacify a revolt against the Lahore court arising in the region. This is also acknowledged by Syed Mohd. Latif, a biased famous Punjabi Muslim historian. Henry Lepel Griffin in connection with Sardar Nalua in Pakhli states "obedience was not an easy to Hari Singh for wild mountaineers to the number of 20,000 opposed to his passage, on this way to mankera and at Pakli he was compelled to halt with his force of 7,000 men. Pakli has long been a spot dreaded by merchants, for the hillmen of that place were accustomed to demand a toll on shawl, wood and other merchandise. Hari Singh after vain efforts to induce the enemy to yield him a passage, attacked them with vigor, and storming their blockades defeated them with great slaughter. After this he imposed a fine of Rs 5 on each house in the district.

Since virtually peace in Punjab was only possible by sealing the border of Kabul, and Peshawar being geographically situated in its close proximity was an indispensable asset for Maharaja Ranjit Singh. Thus, ultimately the strip of Peshawar became the bone of contention between Maharaja and Afghanis. After the conquest of Attock, Maharaja's solid and concrete target of conquest was Peshawar as the exigency of time so demanded.

The murder of Wazir Fateh Khan of Kabul in A.D. 1818 provided Maharaja the desired opportunity to attempt the conquest of Peshawar as consequent to his murder the two major factions of the Afghans-The Sadazui's and Barqzai's-came to be seen at dagger's drawn with each other. Moreover, the possession of Peshawar except as a step to further acquisitions, does not appear to have been advantageous to Ranjeet with additional evil of leading Sikhs into constant collision with the savage tribes of Afghanis.

Maharaja Ranjit Singh availed himself of anarchy in Kabul and made as invasion of Peshawar, the South-West-Eastern frontiers of Peshawar with Punjab having been neglected by Sultan Yar Mohammed Khan and Dost Mohammad Khan, the then Afghan governors of Peshawar who found themselves helpless and vacated the city. Punjabi forces with Mian Ghausa and Diwan Mohkam Chand leading the charge With Sardar Nalua as general of Cavalry didn't had to face any fight what so ever. Maharaja appointed Jahan Dad Khan, ex governor of Attock as new governor of Peshawar in November 1818.

Then in 1822, Dost Mohammad Khan and Yar Mohammad Khan were able to expel the Maharaja's nominee Jahan Dad Khan from Peshawar and thus another expedition was undertook by Punjabi forces. This time the forces were being led by cavalry by Sardar Hari Singh Nalua, Foot soldiers by Dhanna Singh Malwai, and Jagat Singh Attariwala, Artillery by Mian Ghausa. Dost Mohammad Khan managed to reconcile by paying a handsome nazrana to Maharja and by accepting the submission to Khalsa kingdom rather than to kingdom of Kabul. In Jan 1823, Muhammad Azim, the Kabul wazir occupied Peshawar with the assistance of large army. Ranjit Singh sent another expedition, the battles of Jahangira and Naushera were fought in March 1823 where Sardar Nalua, Akali Phula Singh, Gorkha Bal Bhadra, Mian Ghausa, Misr Diwan Chand, Sardar Attar Singh marched in the battle field at the head of their divisions and gave a defeat to the Afghans in the battle of Jahangira but a more serious and awe inspiring battle was fought at Naushera which is also known as the battle of Tibbi Tehri. General Allard and Ventura's participation in this battle with their divisions and trained army of Lahore kingdom with Akali division of the army had absolutely no match for untrained militia who although surpassed in sheer numbers, Afghans after a great massacre submitted and Naushera was captured. Albeit, the Lahore troops lost an indispensable commander, Akali Phula Singh whose dashing feats of warfare had surprised one and all. Hari Singh Nalua played a conspicuous role first by inflicting a crushing defeat upon the enemy and secondly by pursuing the enemy after the defeat in order to be sure about the victory of the Lahore troops. The battle of Naushera made it evident to the frontier tribesmen that the Afghan militia was weaker than those of Lahore troops. This battle sealed the further prospects of Muhammad Azim of Kabul and established the Sikh supremacy over Peshawar.

In 1827, Sayed Ahmad Bareli who claimed himself to be the messenger of Prophet Mohammad inspired the tribesmen by fervent appeals to recover their territory from the "kafir" or "Infidel" kingdom of Lahore. Yar Mohammad Khan also joined these crusaders. These forces captured the Peshawar. Maharaja Ranjit Singh sent Hari Singh Nalua to recapture the Peshawar as well as major parts around khyber pass. Sardar Hari Singh Nalua gave blow to the rising power of Syed Ahmad Bareli Griffin states that when Sayed Ahmad roused all the fanatic power of Yusafzais for a holy war against Sikhs and was joined by the Barkazi chief of Peshawar, Sardar Hari Singh Nalua with his 25,000 men prevented Syed Ahmad from crossing Indus. Then Lahore troops crossed Indus and invaded Peshawar, Syed Ahmad and his crusaders were butchered. Hari Singh gave Sayed a great setback. Peshawar was pillaged, Palaces were destroyed, tribute of Peshawar was increased and the son of Yar Mohammad Khan was carried away by Hari Singh as hostage. Then again, in 1830, Maharaja had to sent Prince Sher Singh to Peshawar to get tribute from Sayed Ahmad which was paid.

Hari Singh was put to call of duty in 1834 A.D for annexing Peshawar to the dominion of Maharaja Ranjit Singh. On 6th May 1834, Peshawar was made part of Punjab and Hari Singh Nalua was made his first non-Muslim governor. But most of Hari Singh time was spent at Lahore, his division was situated in Lahore. A year after annexation of Peshawar, Dost Mohammad, now the Afghan ruler of Kabul attempted to regain his supremacy over strip of Peshawar. Tribesmen from Yusafzai, Mohmmand and Khatak tribes of the vicinity were appealed in the name of religion to jump into holy war or jehad against Sikhs in order to oust them from their region. But due to unknown reasons these Afghan troops retreated long before confrontation.

Dost Mohammad Khan did not rest contented and after mobilizing all his resources dispatched his son Akbar in A.D. 1837 to recover Peshawar which he did. Resultantly, Sardar Hari Singh Nalua was sent at the head of Lahore troops to face Afghans. He got his forces to Peshawar. Jamrud turned out to be the field of battle this time where a formidable battle was fought. Sardar Hari Singh Nalua had earlier build a fort on the entrance of Khyber pass called fort of Jamrud, this fort was being commanded by Sardar Mahan Singh Mirpura. For want of man and war material Nalua strove extraordinary hard, inspite of this he did not loose his heart. Urgent messages were sent to Lahore and Peshawar for materials. For want of timely help the Sardar was of course, killed but the Afghans could not dislodge the 500 Punjabi troops from the fort of Jamrud. General Hari Singh Nalua give his last command to his men to not to disclose his death and continue giving enemy a good fight.

Sir Lepel Griffin, gives a detailed and comprehensive account of Sardar Nalua's campaign of Jamrud. He points out that Sardar was directed to build a fort at Jamrud situated at the entrance of Khber pass from the walls of which Maharaja might glance Jalalabad in Afghanistan. Sardar got built a small port which was quite impregnable to the artillery fire and could hold on for several weeks of pounding. The Dost Mohammad Khan, with 7,000 horse, 2000 matchlock men and 18 guns. His three sons with their forces and a force of 12,000 to 15,000 of Khaibiris joined the main force and started pounding the fort. Mahan Singh Mirpura requested help from Peshwar where Hari Singh Nalua was ailing with fever. While giving an account of the march of Sardar Hari Singh Nalua at the head of Lahore troops to give fight to the Afghans at battle of Jamrud. Hari immediately sent some horsemen to Lahore for more reinforcement and he along with his soldiers went to Jamrud. Reinforcement under Hari Singh Nalua give a new life to the garrison and attack of Afghanis was repulsed with vigor. Griffin further states that when Hari Singh Nalua along with about five of his companion went outside of the fort to inspect a breach in a wall, he was struck by two balls, one in the side and the other in stomach. In spite of them understanding that he was mortally injured, the Nalua Sardar managed to ride as far as his camp lest the troops be discouraged. Then laying on floor he gives his last order to his few trusted men, that was to not to disclose the secret of his death.

Hari Singh further imparted instructions to his soldiers to cover his dead body after lifting it from the ground and placing it on a cot. Thus the great Sardar Hari Singh Nalua, with the terror of whose name Afghan mothers used to quite their fretful children attained his martyrdom.

pathans always try to brag about what they did to sikhs, the pakistani pathans and afghan pathans, but i love it when i get to tell them what maharaja ranjit singh and the sikhs did back to them, like burn half of peshware down to the ground and cutting the pathan population in that city by half.

LOL. YEAH BUT DID YOU TELL THE PATHANS THAT THE SIKHS CRUSHED THEM EVERY BATTLE. DID YOU TELL THEM HOW THE SIKHS WITH LESS THEN 50 000 SOLDIERS STOOD UP TO WHAT LIKE 50 MILLION DURRANIS? AND TOOK CONTROL OF HALF OF AFGHANISTAN SO EASLILY. IT TOOK DURRANI 85 YEARS TO CREATE HIS EMPIRE, AND THE SIKHS CRUSHED IT INCLUDING INDIA AFGHANISTAN, PAKISTAN, AND PARTS OF CHINA, NEPAL AND TO SOUTHERN IRAN.

BUT WHAT ABOUT WHEN THE SIKHS CAPTURED PESHWAR, WHAT ABOUT WHEN DURRANI BEGGED HIS SOLDIERS TO FIGHT THE SIKHS ROFL AND THE DURRANI SOLDIERS JUMPED ON THEIR HORSES AND DIPPED SO FAST ACROSS THE RIVER.

WHAT ABOUT WHEN DURRANI LAUNCHED AND ATTACK ON PUNJAB, BUT DID NOT GO INTO PUNJAB IN AMRITSAR THE HOLY CITY,

BECAUSE HE KNEW THE SIKHS WERE THERE, WHAT ABOUT WHEN SHAHEED BABA DEEP SINGH JI RIPPED THE PATHANS APART

WHY DONT U TELL THEM HOW BADLY THEY FEARED SARDAR HARI SINGH NAWLA JI

WHY NOT TELL THEM THAT THE SIKHS HAD SWORDS LONGER THEN THE BODIES OF THE AFGHAN SOLDIERS

REMEBER AFGHANS DEFEATED ALL BUT FLED ALMOST EVERY SINGLE BATTLE AGAINST SIKHS

DO NOT BELIEVE ME? GO READ THE <banned word filter activated> BATTLES OKAY?

[Sikhi03]

pathans always try to brag about what they did to sikhs, the pakistani pathans and afghan pathans, but i love it when i get to tell them what maharaja ranjit singh and the sikhs did back to them, like burn half of peshware down to the ground and cutting the pathan population in that city by half.

LOL. Which pathans say they did bad to the sikhs, the ones who never read a history book. I say they need to be slapped, why dont you tell them about how Sardar Hari Singh Nawla Ji launched invasion after invasion, took over half of the afghanistan, only three parts were left, even the kabul forces lost, if they had stayed on earth, longer the afghanistan would be pure sikh. Pashwer was taken, multan, and soo many more, they took the captial multan, which the afghans controlled for 800 years, 8 centuries, the sikhs are unkillable. Lastly, i talked to some pathan low life loser, hes like 25 and argueing with kids like us, he talked about how the afghans destroyed the sikhs, i asked him give me a battle, but he could not, he just went on about how the sikhs never took there land, but really that is pure bullshyt, why not study the conquests

MAHARAJA RANJIT SINGH JI IS ONE OF THE VERY FEW UNDEFEATED GENERALS OF ALL TIME. SARDAR HARI SINGH NAWLA JI IS ALSO AN UNDEFEATED GENERAL, BUT THEY DO NOT CONSIDER HIM ON THE LIST, BECAUSE HE WAS NOT THE KING OF PUNJAB.

THERE IS AN ACTUAL LIST OF UNDEFEATED GENERALS. TYPE IN UNDEFEATED GENERALS IN GOOGLE, AND THERES A PAGE, WITH THE GENERALS FROM ALL AROUND.

I tihnk if i had to praise a man, i would praise Napoleon the mighty. I do not praise alexander, i find him not that great, he was 5'4, nothing to fear, i mean the sikh women warriors carried swords bigger then his body ACTUAL FACT.

Lastly the sikhs are the firece of firece, greatest army ever lived.

THATS A FACT, DONT BELIEVE ME, I WILL BRING U BATTLES NEXT REPLY, REPLY TO THIS AND ASK ME THE BATTLES, I WILL BLOW YOUR HEAD OFF WITH UNBELIEVABLE BATTLES. I CHALLENGED LIKE EVERYONE I PASTED IT ON YOUTUBE, SIKH FORUMS, EVERY WHERE FACEBOOK EVERYTHING I TOLD THEM I CHALLENGE U FIND ME A BATTLE EVEN 1/10TH OF THE IMMORTALS DAY. THEY COULD NOT, theres some stupid group on facebook that says 1 roman will merk 10 singhs, LOL I PUNKED THE OWNER, i told him about the sikhs, HE IS RACIST 30 year old low life, but hey most of the people that spend there days on the internet will be just like him, not u guys i mean like the frequent youtube users, the xbox livers, chat room users, pathetic they need help. Seriously

Oh yeah, the greatest general according to the british: Sardar Hari Singh Nawla Ji

DID YOU GUYS KNOW THEY DO HISTORY PROJECTS ON MAHARAJA RANJIT SINGH JI IN AMERICA AHAHA, THEY CALL HIM UNDEFEATED, BUT THAT IS TRUE HE NEVER LOST, HE IS ON THE LIST I MENTIONED EARLIER.