Rensbhai Kirtan

[Techno_singh]

no its the rainsbhai in commemoration of 4 sahibzadey.

[JustME]

any recordings??

[just a soul]

Did anyone catch the very uncomfortable start to the programme? (my personal opinion - the willenhall comittee were being very unreasonable)

[Randhir Singh]

fateh ji,

can you give more detail?

[akjbabbar]

This is not the first time Willenhall committee have acted like this i rememebr a few years ago they did the same thing then.

Before the Rehansbhia began the stage secretary was talkin and a few memebers of the committee started setting up the mics for the kirtan. Bhai Tarlochan singh Got up and asked them to put the speaker stands onthe floor so that more sangat can sit on the stage. The stage sec started slandering saying that you must do kirtan on the stage and not on the floor. When Bhai Tarlochan singh tired to speak they swithced the MIC off. He then jumped on stage and explained to the sangat that all he requested was that the Mic stands be put on the floor and then extend them out onto the stage so we can get more people on the stage. You should have seen the look on the faces of the 3 guys they looked like idiots.

I personally think Bhai Tarlochan SIngh handeled it very well otherwise it could have become nasty

The only thing the stage sec kept saying was this is our gurdwara you have to do what we say we are in charge. What he doesnt realise is Guru ji is in charge but there ego makes them think they are in charge.

From the reaction of the committe it would be apparent that this was planned by them thinking the jatha will want to do kirtan on the floor.

They should be ashamed of themselves.

[dholki]

I am saddened to hear about this incident. i did not witness it as I arrived with my family later on that evening.

How does AKJ decide which Gurdwaras to hold their Rhensbhai programs.

Are these always held in same places each year?

[Akhand Sabha]

if the committee wanted the kirtan to happen on the stage, then it should of been done on stage. theres no need to cause a fus. jatha have done kirtan on the stage in past for example at smethwick last month

[just a soul]

lets not get confused. They DID NOT want to do kirtan on the floor and were perfectly accepting to do kirtan on the stage. The issue began from a mere request to enable more snagat to sit on the stage to join in with the kirtan.

It got pretty intense when a bunch of them started shouting "Just do as we say". Even the guy doing prashaad the seva came over to say his piece (totally unneccesary). I'm surprised AKJ actually went onto do kirtan, I would've thought they would just walk out the room.

I agree total disrepect, nobody thought for one second where they were or what they were saying. Total hunkar.

[just a soul]

I also think it got pretty childish when they started snatching the mics from one another. Lets put it this way, you won't see an AKJ programme at Willenhall for a long time.

But just to reiterate: (forgive my lack of knowledge of names)

AKJ guy wanted mics on floor

Willenhall stage secretary misunderstood his request to be to do kirtan on the floor

And so it went on, for quite a while (atleast 10 minutes)

[G5_Sikh_Media]

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

Shame about the start, but that fizzled out quickly and turned out to be a very good night.

Recordings will be up soon.