Article About Sikhs With Cut Hair Being Referred To As Not Sikh

[Guest militant singh]

http://www.panthic.org/news/125/ARTICLE/4691/2009-01-23.html this sortz it out

SGPC and dem ovas hve gt it all wrong

[Guest militant singh]

''owever, he preferred the term ‘Nanak Naam Leva’ for those who had not fully committed themselves by keeping uncut kesh.''

i agree

[The_Perfect_Student]

infact this is a good post.

God inside the guy who posted this thread, wants to clear the sangat doubts.

whether or not the sangat will listen to GOD is another matter.

Remember, god is in each and everyone of us.

So we have to learn from each other and help each other and together we should get to our destination.

[Matheen]

Binaa Tegh Kesan Na Deevon Deedaare (I will not give my darshan them who do not keep there sword and kes)

Binaa Shastra Kesan Naran Bedh Jaano (Without weapons and kes, a man is no more than a sheep)

can you tell me where you get these lines from. i am sure gurus never said that.

infact by saying that this is the guru's hukam, we are slandering the guru.

Those are Guru Gobind Singh Ji's own words, written by themselves in Sri Dasam Granth Ji.

Sometimes we confuse the voice of our minds for that of God........

[Starsingh]

WE SHOUDL HAVE A POLL ON THSI SITE, WHETHER A PERSON WITH CUT HAIR CAN CALL THEMSELVES SIKH?

I admire the SGPC for taking this stance but I doubt it will work, and Mona will openly refer to themsleves and be treated as SIKH.

HOW WILL THEY ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THIS INTO PRACTICE? THEY WILL HAVE TO BE REALLY STRICT!

SHOULDNT THE GURDWARAS HERE ALSO IMPLEMENT THIS WHEN IT COMES TO WEDDINGS?

[khalistan_zindabaad]

Can we stop going a bit over board,

OK, lets take it further - - -

Maharaj Jees definition states - rehat pyaree - - - Ok clever cloggs - lets have a poll -

WHICH AMRITDHARIS KEEP REHAT, WAKE UP AT AMRIT VELAH, FOLLOW ALL OF THE 52 HUKAMS and EVERYTHING IN GURU JI

come on, bring it on.

Remember koi virla GURMAT cheleh jeo.

[Starsingh]

this topic is about the Hair issue whcih has been bought up by the SGPC.

But lets see wha tpeople here think?

I personally dotn feel sum1 who cuts their hair is a Sikh, more of a Hindu Punjabi than Sikh.

A Sikh is recognised by the 5 ks end of, in my view

[ASB]

The definition of a sikh, in my humble view, is a devotee of Siri Guru Nanak Dev Ji and the divine light up to and inc Siri Guru Granth Sahib ji believing only in The One Lord. A Singh is a sikh who has offered his head to Siri Guru Gobing Singh Ji, and lives to Guru ji's rehat

the issue here i think is should shaved sikhs call themselves Singh.

my view, dont wear the kara as a Sikh if you are not living the rehat of a Singh as laid down by our Dasvin Patshaa Siri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj.

then u wont taint every Singhs name when you puff on a cigarette or down a lager in one with your kara hand

Every Sikh should be a Singh or a Kaur, not just by inherited name, but we are not there yet.

Bhul chuk maaf

Avtar Singh

[apnepart2]

I had read a sakhi where while Gurujis stay at Damdama Sahib after the battles a famous pandit from Benares came to visit him. He said there is no need of kes as it has become old fashioned and there is no need of kes. He said times have changed. Guruji replied times have not changed. The sun has not chaged, the moon has not changed the stars have not changed only man has changed. He has become alsi and doesn't want to do the xtra effort required for keeping ad maintaining his kes. But his Sikhs are not alsi.

[Jangal Da]

This whole nonsense was started by the SGPC (aka SAD Badal) - since when were they ever a authority on Sikhi?

I personally reckon its a ploy so that 'Sikhs' get scheduled caste status in Punjab (oh yes - despite being casteless, this will be their next move, just like the SGPC supported sceduled caste demand in Rajasthan), to up the privelages of the few dozen.

Bhai Sahib Ranjit Singh's viewpoint is much more sensible. And whatever happened to the definition of a Sikh as being one who believes in One God as defined in the Mool Mantar and believes in the teachings of the GGS and 10 Satgurus from Nanak to Gobind Singh? By acknowledging and respecting the aim of taking khande ke pahul, you do not fail the teachings of Dasmesh pita - only Akal Purukh knows the real sincerity of your heart and actions.

As I've said elsewhere on a similar thread - watch the Sangat, the next time you go to the Gurudwara and recognise that all those that bow before Maharaj, be shorn of hair or not are your Sikh brothers and sisters - do not be egoist and make the mistake that they are not the children of Dasmesh, because like I said, only the True One really knows.