When This Insult To Sikh Religion Will Stop?

[Guest militant singh]

What needs to be done is have a Sikh body that represents what is acceptable and what isnt in Indian drama's and films. So that before anyone creats a production or writes a sript they have it checked by the Sikh organisation for its content and if its deemed unsuitable it should be changed or scrapped and if the producers insist on protraying Sikhs in negative manor then strong action would be called for. Only few years ago babber khalsa bombed a cinema in new delhi after several warnings by Sikh organisations that the film jo bole sohnihal had scenes that would cause alot of offence to Sikhs. After ignoring the peaceful protests and warnings.. babbar khalsa activists took it upon themselves to bomb a cinema whose management insisted in showing the film.

So these producers should be careful and be sensetive to peoples religious passions.

How do you know the Babbars bombed that cinema? When Bhai Hawara (head of BK) was arrested, he admitted to most charges (ie conspiracy in killing CM Beant etc) but strongly denied having any part in the cinema blasts.

There are plenty of individuals and groups in india who would happily create a pretext for maligning Sikhs.

Lets face it many moderate Sikh organisations had said at the time that showing the film would inflame religious sikh passions and some cinema owners didnt listen most of punjab didnt show it. So the radicals took matters into their own hands and made sure people who went to see the film risked their lives... no one else would benefit from it apart from radical organisations like babbar khalsa. Indian govt has a track record for deception and framing Sikhs in so called counter insurgency operations or "encounters" but... it was pretty easy to understand why radical militant Sikhs would take it upon themselves to send a message such films would not be tolerated.

sikhz would neva bomb innocentz in a cinema - in a struggle 4 freedom bombing a cinema wouldnt achieven nufink,plus Babbar Hawara has denied all charges relating 2 tht

[cool water]

What needs to be done is have a Sikh body that represents what is acceptable and what isnt in Indian drama's and films. So that before anyone creats a production or writes a sript they have it checked by the Sikh organisation for its content and if its deemed unsuitable it should be changed or scrapped and if the producers insist on protraying Sikhs in negative manor then strong action would be called for. Only few years ago babber khalsa bombed a cinema in new delhi after several warnings by Sikh organisations that the film jo bole sohnihal had scenes that would cause alot of offence to Sikhs. After ignoring the peaceful protests and warnings.. babbar khalsa activists took it upon themselves to bomb a cinema whose management insisted in showing the film.

So these producers should be careful and be sensetive to peoples religious passions.

How do you know the Babbars bombed that cinema? When Bhai Hawara (head of BK) was arrested, he admitted to most charges (ie conspiracy in killing CM Beant etc) but strongly denied having any part in the cinema blasts.

There are plenty of individuals and groups in india who would happily create a pretext for maligning Sikhs.

Lets face it many moderate Sikh organisations had said at the time that showing the film would inflame religious sikh passions and some cinema owners didnt listen most of punjab didnt show it. So the radicals took matters into their own hands and made sure people who went to see the film risked their lives... no one else would benefit from it apart from radical organisations like babbar khalsa. Indian govt has a track record for deception and framing Sikhs in so called counter insurgency operations or "encounters" but... it was pretty easy to understand why radical militant Sikhs would take it upon themselves to send a message such films would not be tolerated.

sikhz would neva bomb innocentz in a cinema - in a struggle 4 freedom bombing a cinema wouldnt achieven nufink,plus Babbar Hawara has denied all charges relating 2 tht

All it takes is a nutter who doesnt care about innocents to give any organisation a bad name, if you chat to some of the Sikhs I have you will come to understand not everyone is reasonable and has a balanced mind. We have our fair share of nutters in our religion who think with their fists first than with their brain. Thats why so many Sikhs in indian army... they make great soldiers and good cannon fodder for the Indian govt in its wars against its precieved enmies. Us Sikhs need to prize wisedom and intellgience over braun and simple mindedness thats the only way collectively we politically will be masters of our own destiny.

[Dharam Judh]

These films will stop once our people stop watching them. Every "Sikh" household even in the UK will have someone who watches this rubbish. First lets ban this nonsense in our houses, then our relatives, then our friends, maybe then we can think about India. The more we support them (ie watching them) the more they will produce.

[singh_comradz]

What needs to be done is have a Sikh body that represents what is acceptable and what isnt in Indian drama's and films. So that before anyone creats a production or writes a sript they have it checked by the Sikh organisation for its content and if its deemed unsuitable it should be changed or scrapped and if the producers insist on protraying Sikhs in negative manor then strong action would be called for. Only few years ago babber khalsa bombed a cinema in new delhi after several warnings by Sikh organisations that the film jo bole sohnihal had scenes that would cause alot of offence to Sikhs. After ignoring the peaceful protests and warnings.. babbar khalsa activists took it upon themselves to bomb a cinema whose management insisted in showing the film.

So these producers should be careful and be sensetive to peoples religious passions.

How do you know the Babbars bombed that cinema? When Bhai Hawara (head of BK) was arrested, he admitted to most charges (ie conspiracy in killing CM Beant etc) but strongly denied having any part in the cinema blasts.

There are plenty of individuals and groups in india who would happily create a pretext for maligning Sikhs.

Lets face it many moderate Sikh organisations had said at the time that showing the film would inflame religious sikh passions and some cinema owners didnt listen most of punjab didnt show it. So the radicals took matters into their own hands and made sure people who went to see the film risked their lives... no one else would benefit from it apart from radical organisations like babbar khalsa. Indian govt has a track record for deception and framing Sikhs in so called counter insurgency operations or "encounters" but... it was pretty easy to understand why radical militant Sikhs would take it upon themselves to send a message such films would not be tolerated.

hmmm, thats why the chief of such a tight knit organisation admitted to other charges but denied the bombings.

[liveandletlive]

These films will stop once our people stop watching them. Every "Sikh" household even in the UK will have someone who watches this rubbish. First lets ban this nonsense in our houses, then our relatives, then our friends, maybe then we can think about India. The more we support them (ie watching them) the more they will produce.

I agree...our own ppl sit there and laugh and enjoy.

[AK47 JATHA LION]

2009 release?

It has not hit the Uk cinemas yet from what i know.

Lets do this, Lets NOT allow it to be played in London.

I cannot speak for India or rest of the world but we can speak for our own areas at least.

They will send that Tape reel to the cinemas in London soon. The second they dare play it, all sikhs will kick off some major protests outside the main London Cinemas.

ALso lets communicate through proffessional sikh bodies to these london cinemas that IF they DARE play this offensive film, then they can expect "dire consequences" for their lack of consideration for sikh sentiments.

Im all up for that. Lets put that wheel in motion right now , if all the local sangat agree?

IF we manage to stop this film from being played at cinemas here, then it will mark a new begining.

After all these bollywood films depicting sikhs as idiots and jokers, this is the first film where sikhs took a stand and physically stopped it from being played (if it works , which it should).

AFterall...what cinema would want a thousand or so odd sikhs protesting outside it??? They'd cave in to our demands easily and take that film off cinema.

I been hearing complaints and reading them for many years now. So lets do something.

Start by contacting each cinema by email.

Sikhs can put up with this rubbish no more

[cool water]

What is needed is a british sikh organisation that is organised and takes action.

Look at the jews they have jewish board of deputies they have high reach and influence in UK govt

Look at muslims they have many muslim bodies that they use to get funding from UK govt for attempting to stop extremism in their youths.

Look at Sikhs what have we got? a bunch of money grabbing lazy idiots who have failed British Sikhs in this country for far too long now. The old guard the old skool Sikh leaders in this country have all died out, when they were in charge Sikhs were represented and their concerns and views were taken on broad by UK government ministers. Now we have yes men who pay lip service to ministers smiling for the camera's and getting awards from the state to keep them sweet. Yet countless times Sikhs have been persecuted and attacked, gurdwara's is destoryed and these so called Sikh leader idiots have not even made a mass protest demonstation.

[liveandletlive]

What is needed is a british sikh organisation that is organised and takes action.

Look at the jews they have jewish board of deputies they have high reach and influence in UK govt

Look at muslims they have many muslim bodies that they use to get funding from UK govt for attempting to stop extremism in their youths.

Look at Sikhs what have we got? a bunch of money grabbing lazy idiots who have failed British Sikhs in this country for far too long now. The old guard the old skool Sikh leaders in this country have all died out, when they were in charge Sikhs were represented and their concerns and views were taken on broad by UK government ministers. Now we have yes men who pay lip service to ministers smiling for the camera's and getting awards from the state to keep them sweet. Yet countless times Sikhs have been persecuted and attacked, gurdwara's is destoryed and these so called Sikh leader idiots have not even made a mass protest demonstation.

Our organisations will start having kittens when you mention protest......the truth is it ruins their reputations. They also will be worried about all the hard work they have put in over the last 25 years going down the drain....

before you ask me what they have been doing...the answer is: I really dont know :6

we take a softly softly approach and it gets us nowhere.....we lick <banned word filter activated> and still get shown in a bad light.

Best contact newly formed organisations and get them invloved.

[Guest fordcapri]

we should say to labour we will vote bnp if they show these flms in uk cinemas.#

i have considerd voteing for them anyway.

[HSD*^]

we should say to labour we will vote bnp if they show these flms in uk cinemas.#

i have considerd voteing for them anyway.

and labour will laugh in your face. what needs to be done is that all political parties should be contacted for their views on sikhs in uk, 84, khalistan etc. and the best views will get our votes.

as far as i know, the uk independence party and the liberal democrats are the most pro-sikh, dont know if thats still the case.