Radha Swami

[Guest fordcapri]

I know a geezer called dyal started this lot of, ive heard various things, 1. he was a muslim 2. he was Sikh and was a bhai and was caught up to mischieve in a Gurdwara then started a cult.

anyone shed any light

bit worring when people in Sikh familiys get behind these types.

[Guest fordcapri]

Ive noticed people with businesses follow clowns like rs's. RS head target them with agents, to milk mony out of them.

Most of the indian jewlers on soho rd are radha swaim baba worshipers

[kuthaman]

Ive noticed people with businesses follow clowns like rs's. RS head target them with agents, to milk mony out of them.

Most of the indian jewlers on soho rd are radha swaim baba worshipers

he was of sikh origin. than he started going to some baba. Eventually he started radhaswami butfuk beas

here is a good criticism about it.

http://www.amazon.com/Radhasoami-Reality-M...0212&sr=8-1

[valli singh]

yep, many educated people in the cities are falling for it,

Swami Shiv Singh Dayal was born into a Nanak Panthi family,

his brother was an Udasi mahatma named Bhindraban Singh,

Shiv Singh wrote a commentary on Japji Sahib in the 1800's,

his guru was Tulsi Sahib of Hathras,

after Shiv Dayal, 'Radhasaomi Mat' was started by Saligram Sinhgh

who took over the lineage in Agra, this lineage has been spliyt many times and is only followed by Hindus,

the Radhassomis in Punjab descend from Baba Jaimal Singh;

[Guest fordcapri]

Ive noticed people with businesses follow clowns like rs's. RS head target them with agents, to milk mony out of them.

Most of the indian jewlers on soho rd are radha swaim baba worshipers

he was of sikh origin. than he started going to some baba. Eventually he started radhaswami butfuk beas

here is a good criticism about it.

http://www.amazon.com/Radhasoami-Reality-M...0212&sr=8-1

Does that book expose the scum bags for what they really are ??

Has anyone read a book called Nakli Nirankari i had but ist in panjabi and my panjabi reading level is not good.

[Guest fordcapri]

I’ve noticed that manly women in Sikh families or people of business stock are in to RS lot.

Women - probley not educated and nieve, rs trying to come across as supreme holy men, the women fall it thinking it is a path to some thing great.

Business People- as I’ve stated you only have to go Indian jewellers and the shop is covered in pics of rs clowns. Rs leaders plant agents to recruit business people as they large donations to give

They also refer to Guru Granth Saibh as Granth Saibh.

[kuthaman]

I’ve noticed that manly women in Sikh families or people of business stock are in to RS lot.

Women - probley not educated and nieve, rs trying to come across as supreme holy men, the women fall it thinking it is a path to some thing great.

Business People- as I’ve stated you only have to go Indian jewellers and the shop is covered in pics of rs clowns. Rs leaders plant agents to recruit business people as they large donations to give

They also refer to Guru Granth Saibh as Granth Saibh.

The book pretty much exposes them as they are.

[apnepart2]

they were a govt sponsored lot with a view to undermine sikhi. they have been all the way sponsored by the govt but now they are very powerful on their own. having these sects around sikhs in punjab is like creating buffer states around your enemy. if the enemy that is the sikhs give any trouble to govt. then these sects (buffer states) become base fields for managing war on sikhs. and they also help in reigning in the poor mass of population that has no brain and are kept in control by the govt. Religion of these people is like the opium referred by marx, which they don't understand and are in a state of daze which makes their life worth living. the radha soami in punjab are now a real estate enterprise. anyone who has a brain knows what they really doing!

[chatanga]

their origins were not govt-sponsered. It started off as a spiritualist movement in Agra, and one of the followers of this was Jaimal Singh who brought this teachings (altho of that time it was wholly based on Guru Granth Sahib, as Tulsi, the Original Founder was a student of Nirmale Sikhs) back to Panjab. He was given some land in Beas , form whereby the RS mat grew. The govt saw this as a pawn against the Sikhs, and so would help them financially etc, as it helped the nakli nirankaris. The main aim of the govt was to cause divide in SIkh panth, by using such groups.

Lots of my relatives are RS. Rs is a spiritualist movement only and it has no concept of worldy living ie miri. They only beleive in piri lifestyle(in thier own way of course) so theyve already given up half of their life purpose.

But again I beleive that the growth of such mats is becoz of our own weakness in doing parchaar.

[11Gurus1Jot]

I don't think that we should have anything against Radhasoamis, they are just on a journey, a lost journey, but a journey all the same.

Most of you think that the Andes is just a long mountain range. However, there are also some people who are 'And'es too!

Let me explain:

Some people are Radhasoami And Mulsim

Some people are Radhasoami And Hindu

Some people are Radhasoami And Sikh

Some people are Rahdasoami And Christian

Some people are Radhasoami And some other religion

Now you know who the 'And'es are!

A few people are true Radhasoami's, and only believe in the radhaswami cults 2 Saar Bachan scriptures written by the man who started their cult. Most of the other Radhswami's only pretend to be Radhasoami's, and they see these two Saar Bachan scirptures written by the man who started their cult as being totally incomplete and lacking in every way, and that's why they still need to take some readings from religions.

You should feel very sorry for them, read the following and look at what they have to go through on a daily basis:-

• They are ashamed of who they are. That's why they'll never openly tell people that they are a Radhasoami (you'll usually find out months or years after knowing them). Could you ever imagine a Sikh being ashamed to admit they're a Sikh? No, Never. A Sikh is very happy to be a Sikh.
• They openly admit their 2 scriptures, saar bachan are totally incomplete. So take what suits them from real religous scriptures. Could you ever imagine a Sikh seeing the True Sat Guru, Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaaj as being incomplete? No, Never!!! A Sikh knows that his Sat Guru is totally complete and perfect, and finds total satisfaction in hisTure Sat Guru, Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaaj.
• When ashamed of being a Radhasoami, a Radhasoami tries to call himself, or herself, a Sikh. That is how ashamed they are of being a Radhasoami!! Could you ever imagine a Sikh ever trying to call him or herself something other than a Sikh??? No, Never!!!
• A Radhasoami has no history. That's why they still try and attach themselves to Sikh history. This is because they know that all the men who have founded, and been the leaders of their cult, do not have even a very very very small percentage of the amount of respect and bravery (actual acts of bravery) as do the small infant Sahibzadey (sons) of Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaaj. So they admit that any single one of the Sahibzadey, or any of single one of Sikh Shaheeds, were better people than all their cult men leaders put together. Now would a Sikh ever find anything lacking, in his 11 True Sat Gurus, or any of the Sahibzadey, or any of the Shaheeds? No, Never!!

So, until Radhaswami's are happy to be Radhasoamis, and Radhasoamis only, themselves, and do not hide it, due to being ashamed of it, then keep away from them, and keep your Children away from them too! Not because we hate the Radhasoami's, but because we pity them for being so lost, and for constantly seeking approval from the only True Sikhs, the Sikhs of Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaaj! Have you ever seen any True Sikhs emailing Radhasoamis to say, please call me a Radhasoami too? No Never!! Becuase Sikhs are happy being Sikh, and don't need to be known as anything, unlike the Radhasoami !!!

We can't stop them from calling themselves Sikh's. They are as much Sikh as the pop singer Shania Twain, she's a Radhasoami too. The Muslim, Christian, and Hindus versions can also call themselves Sikhs if they want, it doesn't make them Sikhs. Wouldn't you Still want to associate yourself to the Sikhs, especially if it was just your ego that stopped you from taking the only true Sikh Amrit from the 5 Amritdhari Singhs?

The plain and simple, historically recorded, and historically witnessed, fact, is that, Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib Ji Maharaaj clearly gave the Sikhs the Hukam (command) to worship only Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaaj as our only eternal True Sat Guru for ever more! And no Other!