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sometimes when people dont listen you have say it a few times before they understand..

what can i say.. that is the nature of some people...

bless you

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my thread has turned into something ugly over the weekend ohmy.gif

i have forgotten who the last person on topic was, but i will post the ardaas from my old gutka and the new one asap this week. i have an essay to type for a class as well, so first i must get that done, then i will get this job done too. but i WILL post the comparisons soon...just give me a little time. thanx

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vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

Wow. I've never seen that big of a conversation with no-one making any real points throughout wacko.gif

I believe Masti's points are as such

- The standard Ardas is not in the SGGS

- Ardas should be done with the heart.

I think SikhForLife's points are:

- Ardas is in the Sri Dasam Granth Sahib and was written by Sri Guru Gobind Singh Jee

- Ardas is not a ritual if done by the heart.

So what's the problem???

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

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Guest SikhForLife

also it has historic value and we should remember the ardaas as it makes us better sikhs when we remember the sacrifice our ancestors did

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vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

Sikhforlife jee, I missed those points, but you are absolutely right! Guru Gobind Singh made the Khalsa, and we are obligated as part of the Khalsa to stand with those shaheeds who have died for Sikhism.

^_^

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

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ardaas in old gutka (words in bold are the parts different from new gutka and vice versa):

ik onkar waheguru ji ke fateh

siri bhagautti ji sahai

vaar siri bhaguautti ji ki paattshaahi dasmi

prithm bhagautti simar kay gur nanak laee(n) dhiaae

phir angad gur tte amardas(u) ramdasay hoi sahai

arjan hargobind no simrau siri har rai

siri harkrishan dhiaaeeay jisDiThe sabh dukh jaae

teg bahadur simri-ay ghar nau nidh aavay dhaae

sabh thaai(n) hoe sahai

dasvaa(n) paattshah siri guru gobind singh sahib jisabh thaai(n) hoe sahai dasaa(n) paatshaahiaa(n) di jotsiri guru granth sahib ji di path didar da dhiaan dhar ke bolo ji waheguru.

panjaa(n) piyaaariaa(n), chauhaa(n) sahibzaadiaa(n), chaaliaa (n)

muktiaa(n), ha Thaiaa(n), jupiaa(n), ttapiaa(n), jinaa(n)h naam

jupiaa, va(n)D chhakiaa, deg chalaaee, teg vaahi, deg ke anDiTh

keetta, ttinaa(n)h piyaariaa(n), sachiaariaa(n) di kamaai da dhiaan

dharke, khalsa ji! bolo ji waheguru!

jinaa(n)h singhaa(n) singhbeeaa(n) nay dharam haytt sees dittay,

ba(n)d ba(n)d kaTaa-ay, khopriaa(n) luhaaiaa(n), charkhiaa(n) ttay

charhay, aaray-aa(n) naal chiraa-ay gae, gurdwariaa(n) di seva laee

kurbanniaa keettiaa(n), dharam nahee(n) haariaa, sikhi kesaa(n)

suaasaa(n) naal nibaahi, ttinaa(n) di kamaai da dhiaan dharkey,

khalsa ji! bolo ji waheguru!

chauhaa(n) takhta, sarbat gurdudwaria da dhiaan dharke bolo ji waheguru!

prithmay sarbatt khalsa ji ki ardass haY ji, sarbatt khalsa ji ko

waheguru waheguru waheguru chitt aavay, chitt aavan ka sadkaa

sarab sukh hovay. jahaa(n) jahaa(n) khalsa ji sahib,

ttahaa(n) ttahaa(n) rachhiaa riaa-aytt,

deg-t

teg fatteh, birdh ki paYj, panth ki jeet, siri sahib ji sahaai,

khalsa ji kay bol baalay bolo ji waheguru!

Sikhaa(n) noo(n) sikhi daan, kes daan, raYhatt daan, bibayk daan,

visaah daan, bharosa daan, daanaa(n) sir daan, naam daan, siri

amritsar ji day darshan ishnaan, chau(n)kiaa(n), jha(n)Day, bungay,

jugo jug aTall dharam ka jaYkaar, bolo ji waheguru!

sikha da man neeva, mat uchi, mat da raakha aap waheguru.

He nimaneya di maan, nitaneya di taan, neouteya di oaat, sache pita waheguru! aap ji de hazur sodar *rehraas di ardaas hai ji, akhar vada ghata bhul chuk maph karni. sarbat de kaarj raas karne. Sai peyare mell jenha meleya teha naam cheyat awey. Nanak naam chardi kalaah tere bhaneh sarbat da bhala.

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ardaas in new gutka:

ik onkar waheguru ji ke fateh

siri bhagautti ji sahai

vaar siri bhaguautti ji ki paattshaahi dasmi

prithm bhagautti simar kay gur nanak laee(n) dhiaae

phir angad gur tte amardas(u) ramdasay hoi sahai

arjan hargobind no simrau siri har rai

siri harkrishan dhiaaeeay jisDiThe sabh dukh jaae

teg bahadur simri-ay ghar nau nidh aavay dhaae

sabh thaai(n) hoe sahai

dasvaa(n) paattshah siri guru gobind singh sahib jisabh thaai(n) hoe sahai dasaa(n) paatshaahiaa(n) di jotsiri guru granth sahib ji di path didar da dhiaan dhar ke bolo ji waheguru.

panjaa(n) piyaaariaa(n), chauhaa(n) sahibzaadiaa(n), chaaliaa (n)

muktiaa(n), ha Thaiaa(n), jupiaa(n), ttapiaa(n), jinaa(n)h ttera naam

jupiaa, va(n)D chhakiaa, deg chalaaee, teg vaahi, deg ke anDiTh

keetta, ttinaa(n)h piyaariaa(n), sachiaariaa(n) di kamaai da dhiaan

dharke, khalsa ji, bolo ji waheguru.

jinaa(n)h singhaa(n) singhbeeaa(n) nay dharam haytt sees dittay,

ba(n)d ba(n)d kaTaa-ay, khopriaa(n) luhaaiaa(n), charkhiaa(n) ttay

charhay, aaray-aa(n) naal chiraa-ay gae, gurdwariaa(n) di seva laee

kurbanniaa keettiaa(n), dharam nahee(n) haariaa, sikhi ke

saa(n)

suaasaa(n) naal nibaahi, ttinaa(n) di kamaai da dhiaan dharkey,

khalsa ji bolo ji waheguru.

panja(n) takhta, sarbat gurdudwaria da dhiaan dharke bolo ji waheguru.

prithmay sarbatt khalsa ji ki ardass haY ji, sarbatt khalsa ji ko

waheguru waheguru waheguru chitt aavay, chitt aavan ka sadkaa

sarab sukh hovay. jahaa(n) jahaa(n) khalsa ji sahib,

ttahaa(n) ttahaa(n) rachhiaa riaa-aytt,

deg-tteg fatteh, birdh ki paYj, panth ki jeet, siri sahib ji sahaai,

khalsa ji kay bol baalay bolo ji waheguru.

Sikhaa(n) noo(n) sikhi daan, des daan, raYhatt daan, bibayk daan,

visaah daan, bharosa daan, daanaa(n) sir daan, naam daan, siri

amritsar ji day darshan ishnaan, chau(n)kiaa(n), jha(n)Day, bungay,

jugo jug aTall dharam ka jaYkaar, bolo ji waheguru.

sikha da man neeva, mat uchi, mat da raakha aap waheguru.

he akaal purkh! apne panth da sada sahai dataar jio! sri nankana sahib

te hor gurdwaria(n) gurdhama(n) , jinha to panth nu vichhoria gia hai, khulle darshan didaar te seva sambhaal da daan Khalsa ji nu baksho.

He nimaneya di maan, nitaneya di taan, neouteya di oaat, sache pita waheguru! aap de hazur sodar *rehraas di ardaas hai ji, akhar vada ghata bhul chuk maph karni. sarbat de kaarj raas karne. Sai peyare mell jenha meleya teha naam cheyat awey. Nanak naam chardi kalaah tere bhaneh sarbat da bhala.

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!

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