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Sangat Ji,

I feel it is important for the Sikh Channel to know the views of others due to the beadbi of Maharajs Roop they are allowing.

The advert for the "Childrens program" the Bibi posing as the "Mom" wears a read dastar. As this is not a Khalsa colour, why wear it so it makes others think this is an accepted colour to the Khalsa? We try to preach to non sikhs when they see our wedding photos why we do not wear red but instead blue and white and why we do not wear red dastars but if the "Keep it Free for the Non Sikh Viewers" see this, it raises questions and as do all people, if they see something on the TV, it means more to them then someone saying something.

Secondly, the bibi doing the show this morning, wore a pink dastar!?! And then had makeup on aswel? Please can someone correct me, but i have always been taught by Gursikhs, at camps, in the gurdwara sahib makeup is wrong? Please can this now be confirmed?!?

The "Sikh channel" really does NOT seem to be showing the correct image of the Sikhs which this level of Maharajs Roop being disrespeted.

Sikh Channel, please correct this actions. I did email you but i did not receive any response.

My apologies if there are any bibia on here who feel it is ok to wear a dastar and makeup or multi coloured fashion statement dastars. As a abibi myself, i feel this is not the way forward. We want to be "Amritdhari" and wear Dastars but more importantly, want to dress like manmukhs and disrespect the image of the Khalsa with painting our faces to make ourselves feel pretty.

While i mention this, please sikh channel, "PLEASE FORGET TO TAKE OF THE NOTICE ABOUT NOT FORGETTING TO SET UP A DIRECT DEBIT". If your channel is supposed to be continuous, maharaj will himself provide enough funding without you constantly forcing people to feel the need to donate. See there is a difference between donate and setting up a direct debit. You can post it on your website, not leave a notice and run special shows just on how to fill in the damn form. Im sure, we all know how to fill in our details seeing as we have to fill them in for just about anything we do in todays world.

My apologies Sangat Ji, the nature of the channel constantly requestin money and now seeing how they are allowing bibis to potray the dastar, is more so putting me off watching the channel full stop. From watching daily, i know only flick over for Sukhmani sahib at 12pm and occasionaly if i get a call to say there is nice Katha / Keertan on the live show. I really have lost interest in watching the channel as all i see is the continuous degrading of Sikhi - TO BEG FOR MONEY.

Baba Nand Singh Ji, Nanaksarwale, enforced his chellay had no money at all while doing seva with him. No money for food, no money for the Gurdwara sahib nothing. They were not allowed to have money at all. The reason why? Because he had full faith in maharaj that only he can provide what he needs. We have stooped to just begging for money. It makes me think, what has Sikhi now become.

The channel is good, i like the idea, just not the begging and displaying of the Khalsa image.

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True.

I saw the Bibi, with the dastaar and that, Brown lipstick wearing a dastaar. I was like what the...

This is no lie, I'm not going to lie what so ever, I saw that lady eat Roast Chicken Walkers crisp. guess where? gurdwara.

The Bhat Singh Sabha Gurdwara in Blue Gate,Birmingham. I have no reason to lie, i do not even have enmity with her, so i am not doing nindiya... its the truth.

to tell you the truth. i really don't mind her colourful dastaar (opinion),

but the make up thing is messed. she dont even look nice for a start.

no offence to the bibi.

but be happy with the look Akal Purakh gave you.

Don't think you are more productive that Waheguru...

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really, if you look at naamdharis they were pure white paggan...

they have more unity than us sikhs. we need to unite...

we should really be wearing orange / blue / black / white...

seriously enit... WE NEED TO STICK TOGETHER...

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Khalsa Rehit Maryada by Damdami Taksal a puratan rehit maryada!!

BTW Didnt Guru Gobind Singh state the two colours not to wear were red and green, red being the colour of hindus and green the colour of muslims hence we wear blue as the primary khalsa colour "to represent the saint soldier".

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I’m sorry if this post offends anyone, but I seriously need to know this because I just can’t get clear correct answer, also it’s slightly off topic.

I want to know in the Sikh history or rehat, are women suppose to wear dastaar, if so then how what’s the history behind it.

Now days we see women with dastaar aswell as chunni, but is it that amritdhari women only can wear dastaar or something?

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vahegurujikakhalsavahegurujikifateh

If you feel so strongly about it why don't you approach the Sikh Channel directly? People are making it sound like the world will perish unless as many people as possible are told! Contact the those involved you silly people.

On a side note it's not like all of us are perfect either. At least the people on the Sikh Channel are doing some sort of seva? They're giving up their own time and money in order to educate our children. Which is more than can be said for the majority of people here.

vahegurujikakhalsavahegurujikifateh

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I just hope none of you have any item of red clothing lol... don't preach about something if you aren't following it yourself...

are you telling me we all only have clothing which is blue, kesri etc.?

Military colours are on a battle ground, funny thing is the people complaining about these colours wouldn't last a day in battle. Internet warriors indeed.

Sikh Channel has been a great platform for Sikhi, Keep up the good work!

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa

Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

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Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

This is a quote from puratan rehat

The Four Colours of the Khalsa'Blue, Black, White and Saffron

These four colours are to be worn, other colours excite the mind and lure it to vices, and are therefore prohibited. Amritdhari Singhs/Singhni’s are specifically not to wear red or green at anytime. One is to dress humbly, any simple colours can be worn. Amritdhari women are not to wear ear rings, nose-rings, rings, bangles, nail polish, lipstick, bindi, henna, keeping long nails, wearing a saree etc. Piercing of any kind is prohibited.'

So guys pleased don't mock the colours given to us by Guru Ji There here for a reason!

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Why can't you Khalsa Lioness's get off your backsides and actually do something for the panth instead of sitting on your PCs and moaning about other people's wardrobes. So everyones not got your perfect jeevan in your perfect jatha bubble.

The biggest problem we got is our bibya won't come and put themselves forward and the ones who eventually do apparently don't know how do dress and wear the dreaded make up. So it's catch 22.

I hope that you do not own or wear any non-blue/white/kesri/black clothes whatsoever, especially if you are willing to point ongleea at others who do.

And asking for support from the sangat. when did that become such an issue. It's not begging, it's asking for support.

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Sangat Ji,

I feel it is important for the Sikh Channel to know the views of others due to the beadbi of Maharajs Roop they are allowing.

The advert for the "Childrens program" the Bibi posing as the "Mom" wears a read dastar. As this is not a Khalsa colour, why wear it so it makes others think this is an accepted colour to the Khalsa? We try to preach to non sikhs when they see our wedding photos why we do not wear red but instead blue and white and why we do not wear red dastars but if the "Keep it Free for the Non Sikh Viewers" see this, it raises questions and as do all people, if they see something on the TV, it means more to them then someone saying something.

Secondly, the bibi doing the show this morning, wore a pink dastar!?! And then had makeup on aswel? Please can someone correct me, but i have always been taught by Gursikhs, at camps, in the gurdwara sahib makeup is wrong? Please can this now be confirmed?!?

The "Sikh channel" really does NOT seem to be showing the correct image of the Sikhs which this level of Maharajs Roop being disrespeted.

Sikh Channel, please correct this actions. I did email you but i did not receive any response.

My apologies if there are any bibia on here who feel it is ok to wear a dastar and makeup or multi coloured fashion statement dastars. As a abibi myself, i feel this is not the way forward. We want to be "Amritdhari" and wear Dastars but more importantly, want to dress like manmukhs and disrespect the image of the Khalsa with painting our faces to make ourselves feel pretty.

While i mention this, please sikh channel, "PLEASE FORGET TO TAKE OF THE NOTICE ABOUT NOT FORGETTING TO SET UP A DIRECT DEBIT". If your channel is supposed to be continuous, maharaj will himself provide enough funding without you constantly forcing people to feel the need to donate. See there is a difference between donate and setting up a direct debit. You can post it on your website, not leave a notice and run special shows just on how to fill in the damn form. Im sure, we all know how to fill in our details seeing as we have to fill them in for just about anything we do in todays world.

My apologies Sangat Ji, the nature of the channel constantly requestin money and now seeing how they are allowing bibis to potray the dastar, is more so putting me off watching the channel full stop. From watching daily, i know only flick over for Sukhmani sahib at 12pm and occasionaly if i get a call to say there is nice Katha / Keertan on the live show. I really have lost interest in watching the channel as all i see is the continuous degrading of Sikhi - TO BEG FOR MONEY.

Baba Nand Singh Ji, Nanaksarwale, enforced his chellay had no money at all while doing seva with him. No money for food, no money for the Gurdwara sahib nothing. They were not allowed to have money at all. The reason why? Because he had full faith in maharaj that only he can provide what he needs. We have stooped to just begging for money. It makes me think, what has Sikhi now become.

The channel is good, i like the idea, just not the begging and displaying of the Khalsa image.

Gurfateh

I think you've got some fair points, and you should have a right to voice your opinons . I personaly recommend you phone up sikh channel and tell them, Im sure they will take it board :) Go down their benji and show them how its done!

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Why can't you Khalsa Lioness's get off your backsides and actually do something for the panth instead of sitting on your PCs and moaning about other people's wardrobes. So everyones not got your perfect jeevan in your perfect jatha bubble.

The biggest problem we got is our bibya won't come and put themselves forward and the ones who eventually do apparently don't know how do dress and wear the dreaded make up. So it's catch 22.

I hope that you do not own or wear any non-blue/white/kesri/black clothes whatsoever, especially if you are willing to point ongleea at others who do.

And asking for support from the sangat. when did that become such an issue. It's not begging, it's asking for support.

Thank you for commenting using my name :) Internet warriors? Thank you again.

Please tell me how many times you have been standing on the front line when Maharaj has been disrespected. Please tell me how many times you have been there to stop the beadbi taking place. Please tell me when you have confronted the sikhs who claim to be amritdhari and are busy eyeing up boys and girls in the sangat. Please tell me how many times you have been questioned by the police for doing this seva? Are you living in the dream world where by only those who happen to identify something and say it on the forums are internet warriors? Not realising that many of those Internet Warriors are actually Khalsa warriors and would not walk away on the battlefield but run towards it when people like you are busy hiding away.

The biggest problem is not the bibiya dont put themselves forward and the problem is that those who do put themselves forward really dont do a good job - disrespect of the roop of the khalsa is not something that would have been taken lightly in the olden days.

Please not the fact the makeup issue has gone astray. Would i be correct in thinking all of you that have replied only to the issue of dastar colours believe it is ok to wear makeup?

Please again READ THE POST - i DID contact the Sikh Channel and did not get any response.

I know they read this forum hence they READ it here.

Asking is a one in a while request, not a continuous post to say "Set up your direct debit at www.sikhchannel.tv" - This is begging for money. To have different people throughout the day read out the names of those who have set up direct debits and continuously request people set up direct debit is begging.

I really cannot understand how so many sangat members are really brainwashed in to believing this is ok. Correct me if i am wrong yet again, but do we all not get annoyed when the stage secretary says "Building Fund" at a wedding when we all know they ask every time. Yes we do. Why? Because we see no change and we are bored of hearing it.

Remeber,

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Not manmukh behaviour.

Some of you really need to pick up a Gutkha Sahib, read some paath, go to the Gurdwara and do some real seva.

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Why can't you Khalsa Lioness's get off your backsides and actually do something for the panth instead of sitting on your PCs and moaning about other people's wardrobes. So everyones not got your perfect jeevan in your perfect jatha bubble.

The biggest problem we got is our bibya won't come and put themselves forward and the ones who eventually do apparently don't know how do dress and wear the dreaded make up. So it's catch 22.

I hope that you do not own or wear any non-blue/white/kesri/black clothes whatsoever, especially if you are willing to point ongleea at others who do.

And asking for support from the sangat. when did that become such an issue. It's not begging, it's asking for support.

Thank you for commenting using my name :) Internet warriors? Thank you again.

Please tell me how many times you have been standing on the front line when Maharaj has been disrespected. Please tell me how many times you have been there to stop the beadbi taking place. Please tell me when you have confronted the sikhs who claim to be amritdhari and are busy eyeing up boys and girls in the sangat. Please tell me how many times you have been questioned by the police for doing this seva? Are you living in the dream world where by only those who happen to identify something and say it on the forums are internet warriors? Not realising that many of those Internet Warriors are actually Khalsa warriors and would not walk away on the battlefield but run towards it when people like you are busy hiding away.

The biggest problem is not the bibiya dont put themselves forward and the problem is that those who do put themselves forward really dont do a good job - disrespect of the roop of the khalsa is not something that would have been taken lightly in the olden days.

Please not the fact the makeup issue has gone astray. Would i be correct in thinking all of you that have replied only to the issue of dastar colours believe it is ok to wear makeup?

Please again READ THE POST - i DID contact the Sikh Channel and did not get any response.

I know they read this forum hence they READ it here.

Asking is a one in a while request, not a continuous post to say "Set up your direct debit at www.sikhchannel.tv" - This is begging for money. To have different people throughout the day read out the names of those who have set up direct debits and continuously request people set up direct debit is begging.

I really cannot understand how so many sangat members are really brainwashed in to believing this is ok. Correct me if i am wrong yet again, but do we all not get annoyed when the stage secretary says "Building Fund" at a wedding when we all know they ask every time. Yes we do. Why? Because we see no change and we are bored of hearing it.

Remeber,

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Not manmukh behaviour.

Some of you really need to pick up a Gutkha Sahib, read some paath, go to the Gurdwara and do some real seva.

Forgive me Bhenji. For a moment I thought I was more superior than others around me. I now realise I am just a manmukh who should really be standing on every frontline and putting my neck on the line for Sikhi and not sit at home and criticise others for doing sewa.

I suppose I'll see you on that battlefield then! I take it you won't be the bibi in the turquoise dastaar.

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