Ragi Darshan Singh Is Summoned To Akal Takhat

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Lavish Wedding Preparations

Summon Badals, Majithias at Akal Takht: Ravi Inder

Amarjit Thind

Tribune News Service

Jalandhar, November 17

The Akal Takht Jathedar should summon the Badal and Majithia families for planning a lavish wedding for former minister Bikram Singh Majithia in violation of the Sikh creed and tenets.

Charging Chief Minister Parkash Singh Badal, his family and the Majithias with indulging in opulence, SAD 1920 chief Ravi Inder Singh today said that in doing so both the families had sent a wrong signal to the masses that being wealthy alone was the mark of one’s standing in society.

I appeal to Akal Takht Jathedar Gurbachan Singh to take a serious view of the transgression and summon the families to explain their conduct at the earliest, he stressed.

The issue is serious since the Akalis claim to be the custodians of the Sikh nation and also enjoy a majority in the SGPC that has been governing the religious affairs of the community since the thirties, he added.

This conduct, where thousands of people took part in the festivities at Amritsar, was contrary to the established Sikh tenets that exhort simple living and high thinking, he pointed out.

It also shows the “insensitivity” of the two leading families of the state towards the suffering and misery of the masses that were groaning under price rise and other ills plaguing the state, he alleged.

The former Speaker also alleged that hectic preparations were underway to create an elaborate venue for the reception of the Majithia couple at Seonk village near Chandigarh on November 25. Roads and allied infrastructure are coming up at unlimited government expense at a site adjacent to the village, he alleged.

Lashing out at the Akalis for demanding an N-plant in the state, he said the latter had vehemently opposed the civil nuclear deal with the US and had even voted against the motion in Parliament. In case such a plant is sanctioned for Punjab, it should be set up in Badal village, he quipped.

On the 1984 pogrom, he said the Akalis were shedding crocodile tears since they had done not a thing for the victims in the past 25 years and even when they were part of the NDA regime, he pointed out.

I'm getting kind of suspicious about this whole 'summoning' business. Is anyone else starting to think that this all has something to do with the fact that Badal is scared of losing the upcoming SGPC elections and is trying to distract and divide Sikhs? I mean, why all the activity now?

[Inder Singh]

I'm getting kind of suspicious about this whole 'summoning' business. Is anyone else starting to think that this all has something to do with the fact that Badal is scared of losing the upcoming SGPC elections and is trying to distract and divide Sikhs? I mean, why all the activity now?

Before you raise irrelevant questions that are not connected to thread please ponder

1) Did Ragi utter nonsense that is being attributed to him? The answer is Yes.

2) Is it found in Dasam granth sahib? The answer is yes.

Then Ragi should be straightaway excommunicated. No need to summon.

Coming to election these thugs like Srana and Ragi ahve no foothold in Punjab.They cann't even win

one seat. people know that they are agents of congress.

[vsingh2479]

To be completely honest, all of these people are theifs. The likes of Kala-Afghana, Darshan Singh, Dilgeer, they are all just out to make money. Even the Jatherdar's have no right to speak. They go to the dera's of Baba such as the Chicago Baba who has been caught in a motel with a woman and is now in a human smuggling case. So who are they dish out punishment? Just as recently as Nov. 8th, both Jatherdar Giani Gurbachan Singh and Jathedar Iqbal Singh were at his dera. They even said to sangat at other gurdwara's that their trip in the U.S. was due to the Bidaulat of the Baba. What kind of leaders do we have? The whole leadership of our panth is mud. They mix religion with politics, and in the end, they are all in the business of making money. When these assumed "Leaders" come to america, some stay at the houses of family friends. The things my friends and I have heard them say are despicable. They even admit that they only come to the U.S. for lafaafe (bags of money). In my eyes, the Jathedar's that summoned Ragi are just as bad as he is.

[Inder Singh]

To be completely honest, all of these people are theifs. The likes of Kala-Afghana, Darshan Singh, Dilgeer, they are all just out to make money. Even the Jatherdar's have no right to speak. They go to the dera's of Baba such as the Chicago Baba who has been caught in a motel with a woman and is now in a human smuggling case. So who are they dish out punishment? Just as recently as Nov. 8th, both Jatherdar Giani Gurbachan Singh and Jathedar Iqbal Singh were at his dera. They even said to sangat at other gurdwara's that their trip in the U.S. was due to the Bidaulat of the Baba. What kind of leaders do we have? The whole leadership of our panth is mud. They mix religion with politics, and in the end, they are all in the business of making money. When these assumed "Leaders" come to america, some stay at the houses of family friends. The things my friends and I have heard them say are despicable. They even admit that they only come to the U.S. for lafaafe (bags of money). In my eyes, the Jathedar's that summoned Ragi are just as bad as he is.

Keep in mind that this thread is not about jathedars. This thread is about blasphemy of darshan ragi. he said bad things and sangat have forced jathedar to punish him. jathedar is a medium for punishing this rogue.

do not spoil this serious thread by bringing in inadvertent issues here. you can start another thread if you want.

[jassa]

[vsingh2479]

To be completely honest, all of these people are theifs. The likes of Kala-Afghana, Darshan Singh, Dilgeer, they are all just out to make money. Even the Jatherdar's have no right to speak. They go to the dera's of Baba such as the Chicago Baba who has been caught in a motel with a woman and is now in a human smuggling case. So who are they dish out punishment? Just as recently as Nov. 8th, both Jatherdar Giani Gurbachan Singh and Jathedar Iqbal Singh were at his dera. They even said to sangat at other gurdwara's that their trip in the U.S. was due to the Bidaulat of the Baba. What kind of leaders do we have? The whole leadership of our panth is mud. They mix religion with politics, and in the end, they are all in the business of making money. When these assumed "Leaders" come to america, some stay at the houses of family friends. The things my friends and I have heard them say are despicable. They even admit that they only come to the U.S. for lafaafe (bags of money). In my eyes, the Jathedar's that summoned Ragi are just as bad as he is.

Keep in mind that this thread is not about jathedars. This thread is about blasphemy of darshan ragi. he said bad things and sangat have forced jathedar to punish him. jathedar is a medium for punishing this rogue.

do not spoil this serious thread by bringing in inadvertent issues here. you can start another thread if you want.

are you for real? spoil? Dude this has everything to do with it. The very leaders who want to persecute these anti-panthic forces are anti-panth themselves. They are thug politicians at best. I respect Guru Granth Sahib most of all and then the authority of Akal Takhat but the way things are now, the Jathedars are political or just in search of filling their pockets. The likes of Dilgeer have said that people shouldn't even go to these summons because the Jathedar's are criminals themselves. When those that prosecute you are criminals also, there is no point. It is irony at it's best. Why not bring up the root of the problem? Those making the decisions for the panth? Those that most of the sikh population looks to? Why shouldn't they be held on the same standard as everyone else? Who judges them? Who gives them Punishment? Who summons them? I agree that Ragi, Kala-Afgana, and Dilgeer are wrong and should be punished, but they are right when they say that these so called "leaders" are only prostituting our religion. What do they do? They go to countries in europe and the America's and make money. Their punishments are lame. Do jora seva (look after shoes) or bartan seva (wash utensils)? If that is punishment, then i do punishment every time I go to a gurdwara. They excommunicated Kala-Afgana and he still has followers and is still spewing hatred. They just want to make it seem like they are doing something. It seems that our panth is all about "ex-communicating" someone. Don't you understand that these people don't care? Ex-communication would work if we barred them from the land and no one spoke to them or listened to them. But neither those excommunicated or the sikh public 't care, they still give speeches and spread their hatred and people listen. If they put their time and effort towards proving these anti-panthic forces wrong, it would be better. They are trying to lure the sangat into thinking wrong things, then these leader's should put their efforts towards bringing sangat back on the right track.

[Inder Singh]

are you for real? spoil? Dude this has everything to do with it. The very leaders who want to persecute these anti-panthic forces are anti-panth themselves. They are thug politicians at best. I respect Guru Granth Sahib most of all and then the authority of Akal Takhat but the way things are now, the Jathedars are political or just in search of filling their pockets. The likes of Dilgeer have said that people shouldn't even go to these summons because the Jathedar's are criminals themselves. When those that prosecute you are criminals also, there is no point. It is irony at it's best. Why not bring up the root of the problem? Those making the decisions for the panth? Those that most of the sikh population looks to? Why shouldn't they be held on the same standard as everyone else? Who judges them? Who gives them Punishment? Who summons them? I agree that Ragi, Kala-Afgana, and Dilgeer are wrong and should be punished, but they are right when they say that these so called "leaders" are only prostituting our religion. What do they do? They go to countries in europe and the America's and make money. Their punishments are lame. Do jora seva (look after shoes) or bartan seva (wash utensils)? If that is punishment, then i do punishment every time I go to a gurdwara. They excommunicated Kala-Afgana and he still has followers and is still spewing hatred. They just want to make it seem like they are doing something. It seems that our panth is all about "ex-communicating" someone. Don't you understand that these people don't care? Ex-communication would work if we barred them from the land and no one spoke to them or listened to them. But neither those excommunicated or the sikh public 't care, they still give speeches and spread their hatred and people listen. If they put their time and effort towards proving these anti-panthic forces wrong, it would be better. They are trying to lure the sangat into thinking wrong things, then these leader's should put their efforts towards bringing sangat back on the right track.

Request to administrators

Please look what this guy is doing. If he wants to discuss jathedars he should start a separate thread for that. he is spoiling this thread on purpose. Please take care of hima nd put him under moderation.

Do you listen VS. This thread is about darsahn Ragi's blasphemy. Do not bring in otehr matters here. It is sangat that has initiated proceedings against ragi. jathedars are a media. i hope you understand that.

Noreover before you proceed with your nonsense further furnish proofs against what you say in a separate thread.

[vsingh2479]

are you for real? spoil? Dude this has everything to do with it. The very leaders who want to persecute these anti-panthic forces are anti-panth themselves. They are thug politicians at best. I respect Guru Granth Sahib most of all and then the authority of Akal Takhat but the way things are now, the Jathedars are political or just in search of filling their pockets. The likes of Dilgeer have said that people shouldn't even go to these summons because the Jathedar's are criminals themselves. When those that prosecute you are criminals also, there is no point. It is irony at it's best. Why not bring up the root of the problem? Those making the decisions for the panth? Those that most of the sikh population looks to? Why shouldn't they be held on the same standard as everyone else? Who judges them? Who gives them Punishment? Who summons them? I agree that Ragi, Kala-Afgana, and Dilgeer are wrong and should be punished, but they are right when they say that these so called "leaders" are only prostituting our religion. What do they do? They go to countries in europe and the America's and make money. Their punishments are lame. Do jora seva (look after shoes) or bartan seva (wash utensils)? If that is punishment, then i do punishment every time I go to a gurdwara. They excommunicated Kala-Afgana and he still has followers and is still spewing hatred. They just want to make it seem like they are doing something. It seems that our panth is all about "ex-communicating" someone. Don't you understand that these people don't care? Ex-communication would work if we barred them from the land and no one spoke to them or listened to them. But neither those excommunicated or the sikh public 't care, they still give speeches and spread their hatred and people listen. If they put their time and effort towards proving these anti-panthic forces wrong, it would be better. They are trying to lure the sangat into thinking wrong things, then these leader's should put their efforts towards bringing sangat back on the right track.

Request to administrators

Please look what this guy is doing. If he wants to discuss jathedars he should start a separate thread for that. he is spoiling this thread on purpose. Please take care of hima nd put him under moderation.

Do you listen VS. This thread is about darsahn Ragi's blasphemy. Do not bring in otehr matters here. It is sangat that has initiated proceedings against ragi. jathedars are a media. i hope you understand that.

Noreover before you proceed with your nonsense further furnish proofs against what you say in a separate thread.

They are joined because this thread is about someone who is doing anti-panthic activities. And all i'm saying is that, the Jathedar's should be put on the same standard. My nonsense? Where are you from man? Where have you been living? Proofs for what, that the jathedars go to foreign countries and make money? It's a fact. Everyone knows that. It's common knowledge. Look at punishments given out my the Jathedars, and you will see that it is mostly to do seva. There's a fact. Statements made by dilgeer are all fact. And it is common knowledge that people still listen to Kala-afghana. THey give interviews on the radio. What facts do you need? You don't think that these Jathers have political motivations? Have you been around them? When they come to the U.S., they stay at the houses of sangat members. They were in Chicago from nov. 6-8 and went to a family friends house for lunch and dinner. The whole family heard Jatherdar Iqbal Singh on the phone saying that they come to the U.S. for their Lafaafe (bags of money) and that he will be back in India soon. I don't know why you think what i'm saying is nonsense. No disrespect but either you've been living under a rock or don't know much about the state of our panth. We have Baba's running wild, kids cutting their hair, doing drugs, people like Afgana and Darshan Singh spewing hatred, and our leaders are busy doing the work of politicians and Baba's who give them money.

Admin Note:

Veer "vsingh2479" ji, I am not going to delete your posts because I understand your anguish at the state of the Panth, which any devout Sikh would feel. However, I would request you to start a separate thread on this issue as the title of this particular thread is related to Ragi Darshan. We can continue to discuss the details you have mentioned in another new thread.

Thanks

[Inder Singh]

They are joined because this thread is about someone who is doing anti-panthic activities. And all i'm saying is that, the Jathedar's should be put on the same standard. My nonsense? Where are you from man? Where have you been living? Proofs for what, that the jathedars go to foreign countries and make money? It's a fact. Everyone knows that. It's common knowledge. Look at punishments given out my the Jathedars, and you will see that it is mostly to do seva. There's a fact. Statements made by dilgeer are all fact. And it is common knowledge that people still listen to Kala-afghana. THey give interviews on the radio. What facts do you need? You don't think that these Jathers have political motivations? Have you been around them? When they come to the U.S., they stay at the houses of sangat members. They were in Chicago from nov. 6-8 and went to a family friends house for lunch and dinner. The whole family heard Jatherdar Iqbal Singh on the phone saying that they come to the U.S. for their Lafaafe (bags of money) and that he will be back in India soon. I don't know why you think what i'm saying is nonsense. No disrespect but either you've been living under a rock or don't know much about the state of our panth. We have Baba's running wild, kids cutting their hair, doing drugs, people like Afgana and Darshan Singh spewing hatred, and our leaders are busy doing the work of politicians and Baba's who give them money.

Admin Note:

Veer "vsingh2479" ji, I am not going to delete your posts because I understand your anguish at the state of the Panth, which any devout Sikh would feel. However, I would request you to start a separate thread on this issue as the title of this particular thread is related to Ragi Darshan. We can continue to discuss the details you have mentioned in another new thread.

Thanks

This man needs to understand that action is atken at the behest of sikh sangat who ahve poured complaints against these rogue characters.

You seem to love these anti sikh elements. You claim to know so much about jathrdars but seem to be ignorant about these anti sikh gang whose

activities are all ove r the internet for their anti panth activities. Do not you know that or you yourself are part of that.

Read below what heretic Harjinder Dilgeer says about sikh traditions,scriptures.He is disowning his own writings now. They are attacking SGGS ji

now.

http://www.panthic.org/articles/5169

SELF-STYLED KHALISTANI HERETIC CONTINUES TO SPEW KALA-AFGHANI VENOM

PANTHIC.ORG

Published on November 6, 2009

TORONTO, CANADA - The self-styled Khalistani and Kala-Afghani protégé, Harjinder Singh Dilgeer, has again become the center of controversy due to his anti-Panthic tirades on various Punjabi radio talk-shows, in which he has repeatedly attacked the authority of Sri Akal Takht Sahib, and the legitimacy of Nitnem and Amrit Sanchar Banis.

Dilgeer was invited to Canada to speak at a 1984 related function organized at the 'Sikh Lehar Center" by the pro-Kala Afghani heretic lobby in Toronto. Before the weekend function, Dilgeer went on various Punjabi radio talk-show programs in which he ridiculed the authority of Sri Akal Takht Sahib and spewed venomous statements against the sacred Bani of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji.

Dilgeer addressing other heretics at the Kala-Afghani Sikh Lehr Center

Following are some extracts of Dilgeer's interview on Radio Hamsafar which aired on October, 26th of 2009 :

Dilgeer attempts to belittle the authority of Sri Akal Takht's HukamNamas, and alleges that anyone who obeys the order of Sri Akal Takht's HukamNamas is breaking away from Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji

(click to listen)

Note: Contrary to his current stand, Dilgeer in his 'Sikh Reference Book' (1997) states that "The Hukamnama of Akal Takht Sahib is final and binding for each and every Sikh. None dare defy it."

Dilgeer states that 1402 pages of Sri Dasam Granth is 'gand-mand' (filthy trash).

(click to listen)

Note: Dilgeer is stating that banis such as ਵਾਰ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਭਗਉਤੀ ਜੀ ਕੀ (which is part of the Sikh Ardaas), Shashtarnaamala, Zafarnama, and ਸ੍ਰੀ ਮੁਖਵਾਕ such as ਮਿਤ੍ਰ ਪਿਆਰੇ ਨੂੰ ਹਾਲ ਮੁਰੀਦਾਂ ਦਾ ਕਹਿਣਾ, ਰੇ ਮਨ ਐਸੋ ਕਰ ਸੰਨਿਆਸਾ , etc is all filthy-trash or anti-Gurmat content. Dilgeer also seems to makes a distinction between Swaiyya and Akal Ustat, and does not realize that the Swaiyya are actually part of the Akal Ustat.

Dilgeer claims that 90% of Dasam Granth is against the ideals in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, and the rest of the 10% is anti-Gurmat. He then ridicules the bani of BachitarNatak.

(click to listen)

Note: Dilgeer in his 'Sikh Reference Book' (1997) states that "Bachitar Natak- is the name of the poetic drama written by Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ."

Now Dilgeer claims that Dasam Granth is not Guru Rachna, and only a translation.

(click to listen)

Note: Dilgeer in his 'Sikh Reference Book' (1997) clearly states that Dasam Granth was a rachna of Guru Gobind Singh, and even noting the dates when some of the contents were completed.

Dilgeer misquotes and misrepresents the Charritars 21,22, and 23 of Roop/Anoop Koer . He states that those who believe that Dasam Granth is Guru Sahib's Bani are ਪਾਪੀ (sinners) and ਮੁਜ਼ਰਮ (criminals).

(click to listen)

Note: Dilgeer, like Ragi Darshan Singh is intentionally misrepresenting the charittars of Roop Koer or Noop Koer. This charriters are not about Guru Gobind Singh Ji as these heretics claim, this is explained in detail by Sridar Kapur Singh IAS (National Professor of Sikhism) in his article (ਕਿੱਸਾ ਰੂਪ ਕੌਰ ਦਾ) :

http://www.panthic.org/articles/3873

Dilgeer claims that no scholar or leader has read Dasam Granth, if they have and state it is Guru Sahib's rachna, then they are a ਮੁਜ਼ਰਮ or ਦੋਖੀ of the Guru.

(click to listen)

Note: Dilgeers seems be implying all Gursikhs who believed in Sri Dasam Granth in the past were ਮੁਜ਼ਰਮ or ਦੋਖੀ, this includes GurSikhs such as Shaheed Bhai Mani Singh Ji, Kavi Santokh Singh Ji, Giani Gian Singh Ji, Giani Ditt Singh Ji, Akali Kaur Singh Ji, Bhai Randhir Singh Ji, Bhai Kahn Singh Nabha, Prof. Sahib Singh Ji, Giani Gurbachan Singh Ji Bhinderan, Prof. Piara Singh Padam, and countless other scholars and Shaheeds who lived and died believing in Sri Dasam Bani.

Dilgeer suggests that Sri Akal Takht HukamNamas are anti-Gurmat and should be ignored, and not followed. He openly states that all Sikhs should defy any order from Sri Akal Takht, and gives Spokesman editor as an example.

(click to listen)

Note: Dilgeer proudly boasts that his 'friend' Joginder Sahwney has defied the HukamNamas of Sri Akal Takht Sahib, and others should do the same. In a recent revelation, Surinder Kaur Nihal, an ex-admirer of the Spokesman editor, went public to disclose the warped views of the ex-communicated newspaper heretic. According to her public statements, Sahwney stated that:

'ਬਾਬੇ ਨਾਨਕ ਨੇ ਆਪਣੇ ਹੱਥੀਂ ਕਿਸੇ ਨੂੰ ਗੁਰਗੱਦੀ ਨਹੀਂ ਸੀ ਦਿੱਤੀ ਕਿਉਂਕਿ ਉਹ ਅੱਗੇ ਗੱਦੀ ਚਲਾਉਣੀ ਹੀ ਨਹੀਂ ਸਨ ਚਾਹੁੰਦੇ ।'

"Guru Nanak did not bestow Gurgaddi to anyone, because He did not want to pass on the gaddi to anyone after him."

'ਮੈਂ ਬਾਬੇ ਨਾਨਕ ਤੋਂ ਸਿਵਾ ਬਾਕੀ ਨੌਆਂ ਨੂੰ ਨਹੀਂ ਮੰਨਦਾ (ਭਾਵ ਬਾਕੀ ਨੌ ਗੁਰੂ ਸਾਹਿਬਾਨ ਨੂੰ ਗੁਰੂ ਨਹੀਂ ਮੰਨਦਾ) ।'

"Besides Baba Nanak, I do not believe in the rest of the nine (Gurus Sahibans)"

ਸ੍ਰ:ਜੋਗਿੰਦਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀ ਨੇ ਗੁਰੂ ਨਾਨਕ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਅਤੇ ਨੌ ਗੁਰੂ ਸਾਹਿਬਾਨਾਂ ਵਿੱਚ ਇੱਕ ਵੱਡਾ ਬੰਨ੍ਹ ਮਾਰਦਿਆਂ ਹੋਇਆ ਸਾਨੂੰ ਉਲਟਾ ਸਵਾਲ ਕੀਤਾ ਕਿ ਤੁਹਾਡੇ ਕੋਲ ਨੌਆਂ ਗੁਰੂਆਂ ਦੀ ਹੋਂਦ ਦਾ ਕੀ ਸਬੂਤ ਹੈ ।

"Creating a distinction between Guru Nanak Dev Sahib and the nine Guru Sahibans, Joginder Singh asked, "What proof do you have about the existence of the other nine Gurus?"

Ex-communicated heretic Joginder Sawhney

The first statements by Sahwney were made at the bhog ceremony of Dilgeer's mother at Sector 46 Gurdwara in Chandigarh on May 17th, 2009. The fact that not only did Dilgeer allow Sahwney to make such offending remarks at his mother's bhog, and never clarified or apologized for them proves he must also agree with Sahwney's twisted mindset. He continues to work for Sahwney and publishes his works in the daily column of the Spokesman.

Below are extracts of the public statements made by Surinder Kaur of Mohali:

Rangla Punjab Radio Interview:

Dilgeer raises doubts about the events of the 1699 Amrit-Sanchar Ceremony. Claims that Guru Gobind Singh Ji never took Pahul (Amrit) from the Panj Piyaray. Alleges if Guru Gobind Singh Ji took Amrit he would then have been a 'un-AmritDhari. He also questions the authenticity of verses of the Panthic Parvanat Ardas. States the source of ਤੇਗ ਬਹਾਦਰ ਸਿਮਰਿਐ ਘਰ ਨਉ ਨਿਧਿ ਆਵੈ ਧਾਇ ॥ ਸਭ ਥਾਈਂ ਹੋਇ ਸਹਾਇ ॥੧॥ ' in the Sikh Ardaas tuks are unknown.

(click to listen)

Note: It is common knowledge that the tuks written by Sri Dasam Patshah in his rachna ਵਾਰ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਭਗਉਤੀ ਜੀ ਕੀ ॥. To doubt it, is a direct attack on the foundations of Sikhi.

The above examples of blasphemy should leave no doubt that l ike loyal protégés, both Dilgeer and the Ragi are parroting the same ideology of the heretic Gurbakhsh Kala-Afghana, who was ex-communicated from the Sikh Panth in 2003.

In the footsteps of Kala-Afghana, both the Ragi and Dilgeer have openly questioned the validity of the sacred Banis of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji and the Nitnem Banis. While several Gurmattas and HukamaNamas have been issued from Sri Akal Takht Sahib strictly forbidding such criticism, this "shararteee ansar" (mischievous elements) as the Takht refers to them, continue to rake up the controversy on behest of others.

Like Ragi, Dilgeer also considered himself a Khalistani back in the 1980, and 1990s. He claims to have been part of the "inner circle" of the All India Sikh Students Federation, and the early days of the Dal Khalsa. Interestingly, both Ragi and Dilgeer, promoted the Bani of Sri Dasam Granth throughout those turbulent decades. Countless CDs and cassettes of the Ragi were released in which he recited hymns from Bachittar Natak, Krishanavtar, and Ramavtar. Now that era is over, they are looking for better pastures and opportunities to line their pockets.

Perhaps the agencies who planted these naastic-moles in the Panth two decades ago are finally reaping their rewards.

Note to administrator

This man is not here for discussions. he is here to malign personality of jathedars. He shoud not be allowed to open any discussion

on that if he does not give proof.

This is art of propaganda. Since Ragi was to be booked for his blasphemy he was indulging in for two years, they sent heretic Dilgeer

to denounce institution of akal takhat. Now a foot soldier is doing that on such forums.

[vsingh2479]

Read what I wrote, I said that Ragi Darshan Singh and Dilgeer are anti-panthic forces that spew hatred. Don't put words in my mouth.