Bloody Fights Erupts At Brampton Gurdwara

[GPS]

This is not nothing new in Gurudwaras abroad.It has happened and will happen again.

Goons have already hjacked dharam and we keep silent on that.There is no need to single

our amrtidharis for such scenes.

Please do not be unduly alarmed and do not cause unnecesarry sensation to cause panic.

Do not fall into trap of likes of raveena aulakh.Let law decide in such cases.

Is not this Grewal already at odds with sikh community for his communist views.

On anotehr note please read and contribute in panthic cause

Gurumaneyogranth is ragi darshan singh's unit. They are doing propaganda for him in a different way since he is not able to go to Gurudwara.

They are making videos for him and then psoting on different sites.

Sikhent is good site.They may not be knowing about this art of propaganda.Darshan kins have posted one such video there

http://www.sikhnet.c....php?f=2&t=3590

please email to admin of sikhnet that this is vioaltion akal takhat hukamnama .His email is gmustuk@sikhnet.com

[apnepart2]

I have often thought we need another Takht for Canada. And an SGPC like body and derecognition of most gurdwaras. Most are money making scams.

[N30S1NGH]

This is not nothing new in Gurudwaras abroad.It has happened and will happen again.

Goons have already hjacked dharam and we keep silent on that.There is no need to single

our amrtidharis for such scenes.

Please do not be unduly alarmed and do not cause unnecesarry sensation to cause panic.

Do not fall into trap of likes of raveena aulakh.Let law decide in such cases.

Well by stating that there is nothing new thats not providing an solution. They can fight all they want between each other at their own places. Why pick gurdwara? There is still hope, hope is we need to pro actively condemn all these shameless acts who happen to be from our community regardless what you think of them. But the problem is we are still living in denial, passing an buck by creating conspiracy theories like writer is biased, GOI involvement, darshan lal divide and rule politics, is behind all this and because of this, simply refuse to do nothing about it.

We can ponder upon or psycho analysis on the acts afterwards. But at this current time, we must condemn these acts and accept the accountablity and acknowledge - yes there are some rotten apples in our community and yes we are also diseased by fanaticism which is global problem, our people need to know how to do damage control. Normal joe blow Canadian does not give two hoots about conspiracy theories of GOI involvement/darshan lal involvement divide and rule, for them it happened in sikh temple, its a sikh issue and are expecting an statement from sikhs condeming them otherwise hearing silence from our part will mean, we are like that outlaws who doesn't care about laws of this country. Its simple as that.

[GPS]

This is not nothing new in Gurudwaras abroad.It has happened and will happen again.

Goons have already hjacked dharam and we keep silent on that.There is no need to single

our amrtidharis for such scenes.

Please do not be unduly alarmed and do not cause unnecesarry sensation to cause panic.

Do not fall into trap of likes of raveena aulakh.Let law decide in such cases.

Well by stating that there is nothing new thats not providing an solution. They can fight all they want between each other at their own places. Why pick gurdwara? There is still hope, hope is we need to pro actively condemn all these shameless acts who happen to be from our community regardless what you think of them. But the problem is we are still living in denial, passing an buck by creating conspiracy theories like writer is biased, GOI involvement, darshan lal divide and rule politics, is behind all this and because of this, simply refuse to do nothing about it.

We can ponder upon or psycho analysis on the acts afterwards. But at this current time, we must condemn these acts and accept the accountablity and acknowledge - yes there are some rotten apples in our community and yes we are also diseased by fanaticism which is global problem, our people need to know how to do damage control. Normal joe blow Canadian does not give two hoots about conspiracy theories of GOI involvement/darshan lal involvement divide and rule, for them it happened in sikh temple, its a sikh issue and are expecting an statement from sikhs condeming them otherwise hearing silence from our part will mean, we are like that outlaws who doesn't care about laws of this country. Its simple as that.

How do you verify the truthfulness of news? Do that first before calling names.You might have seen how wrong news were contributed by this Raveena aulakh.

Normal Joe does not care about ethnic fights also.Let us not project inferior mentality especially if we are citizens of that country.Many Joes do not know what is a sikh temple also. I will recommend you to read Soft target and you will know how such fights are engineered by vested interests.

[buddasingh]

It seems very odd that after all the negative attention toward all Sikhs from the incident a short time ago, anyone with an interest in Sikhi would actually plan for a fight by bringing weapons.

Can someone reconcile how it is possible for Sikhs to do this? Something is missing from the story.

May be its time to acknowledge rather than living in denial that we got our own idiotic/amritdhari mob bunch just like any other communities have there. No point passing a buck and creating conspiracy theories.. we can create them afterwards and ponder up on it. But at this time, we need Canadian Sikh body to condemn this action and we must also condemn it. If we kept silence and live in denial, khalsa ji time is not very far where these goons will hijack our dharam and kill each other just like sunni and shia kill each other and our temples would be shut and our youths would be either atheist and sullah getting sunnat by some mullah. 

You are absolutely right that at this time the action needs to be condemned with a unified voice. It is really that simple for now.

I am aware that we have our own idiotic mobs who present as Sikhs and in many cases that is the simple sad fact. Even where they don't behave as mobs, their value system, principles and ethics concerns me. However, conspiracy against Sikhs is not a theory, it is a fact also. It is practiced so blatantly at times that it can hardly be called conspiracy, rather often it takes the form of a bald faced smear campaign. No denial, but no naivety either.

[GPS]

It seems very odd that after all the negative attention toward all Sikhs from the incident a short time ago, anyone with an interest in Sikhi would actually plan for a fight by bringing weapons.

Can someone reconcile how it is possible for Sikhs to do this? Something is missing from the story.

May be its time to acknowledge rather than living in denial that we got our own idiotic/amritdhari mob bunch just like any other communities have there. No point passing a buck and creating conspiracy theories.. we can create them afterwards and ponder up on it. But at this time, we need Canadian Sikh body to condemn this action and we must also condemn it. If we kept silence and live in denial, khalsa ji time is not very far where these goons will hijack our dharam and kill each other just like sunni and shia kill each other and our temples would be shut and our youths would be either atheist and sullah getting sunnat by some mullah.

You are absolutely right that at this time the action needs to be condemned with a unified voice. It is really that simple for now.

I am aware that we have our own idiotic mobs who present as Sikhs and in many cases that is the simple sad fact. Even where they don't behave as mobs, their value system, principles and ethics concerns me. However, conspiracy against Sikhs is not a theory, it is a fact also. It is practiced so blatantly at times that it can hardly be called conspiracy, rather often it takes the form of a bald faced smear campaign. No denial, but no naivety either.

Everyone know what Kim Bolan was doing.Utter false proapganda against sikhs.May be raveena aulakh is new face of her.

We need to come out of our self induced complex also.Tomorrow some sikh injures someone in a fight for heavens sake do not label it to so

called sikh image.It is an unlawful act that should be looked after law enforcing agencies.

[apnepart2]

Normal Joe does not care about ethnic fights also.Many Joes do not know what is a sikh temple also. I will recommend you to read Soft target and you will know how such fights are engineered by vested interests.

I agree about Joes not caring about Fights but dude or whatever every tom and harry in GTA knows who Sikhs are. We are the most visible minority and just read the major national newspapers , Sikhs are 2nd only to Roman catholics in terms of controversies for the past few weeks. About R A time will tell.

[Guest Bloom]

In My Opinion,

This Seems To Be About Money, Golak Chors.. *edited*

Its All About Golak Chor. *edited*

Where Are Guru Jees Instruments? Stupid Harmoniums. Learn A Couple Stupid Tunes And Make Some Quick $$$.

Wheres Guru Jees Nishkhaam Seva? GONE. All About $$$.

Its All About $$$. Its All About Looting $$$. Its All About Looting Golak $$$.

Gurdwaras Should Be Run Without Money. How? LOL. Figure Out A Way. Evil Atheists (Though They Might Wear Baanaa, Or Not) Loot Golaks. *edited*

Guru Sahib Kirpa Karan.

Does Canada Have An Authentic Nishkhaam True Khalsa Dharma Premi Organization? Are There Any Authentic Nishkhaam True Khalsa Dharma Premi Organizations Anywhere In The World?

Its Time For NishKhaam True Khalsa Dharma Aashihks All Over The World To Become Organized And Run True NishKhaam Dharmsaalaas Of Guru Jee and Represent Sikhs Correctly With Authentic True Khalsa Dharma Prem. *edited* Its All About $$$. You Know That Committee Member Who Speaks On Stage And Tries To Act All Sweet Blah Blah Blah, Whom Most People Call 'Uncle Jee' In Reality Is a Golak Chor Gangster. Try Exposing Them, And Then See Their True Colours (Be Careful, They Even Get People Killed, So It Is Actually Best Not To Confront At All. Make Strategies To Open True NishKhaam Dharamsaalaas, Where There Is No Way For Corrupt People To Get Control). Some Of This Corrupt Golak $$$ Gangstering Seems To Be Showing As Demonstrated In The Topic Of This Thread.

About The Incident Mentioned In This Thread; Maybe One Side Is Innocent? Are They Both Corrupt? Whats The Truth? The Videos Of The Golak Chors In Committee Were Seen On Youtube, And Still On Committee? Now That Shows Some Gangster Power. Getting Caught And Still Committee Member. Obviously The Entire Committee Must Be Golak Chors, NO? Who Are The Opposing Sides? Whats The Whole Deal?

True NiskhKhaam Jeeavanee RehatVaan Authentic NishKhaam True Khalsa Dharma Premees Have To Get Control. How? Got To Figure Out A Way. Guru Sahib Kirpa Karan. There Is A Way. The Answer Lies In The New Generation Jeevanee RehatVaan True Khalsa Dharma Aashikhs (Whom Also Keep Ang Sang Sri Panj Kakaars) All Over The World. Open Up True Khalsa Dharma Dharamsaalaas Where No One Else Can Get Control.

Also Raveena Aulakh Seems To Really Hate Practicing Sikhs In General Whom Have Nothing To Do With Gurdwara Politics And Corruptions In Canada In General It Seems. Whats The Deal With That? LOL. What Has The Brawl (Which Weapons Were Used Included Hammers And More, Why Does She Not Speak Of Banning Them As Well? Why Is She So After The Sri Kirpaan? Arent Hammers Available In Corner Stores In Canada?) Raveenaa Aulakh And Other People In Media Who Hate Sikhs Shouldn't Attack Sikh Dharma Themselves. I Am Sure Most Practicing Sikhs In Canada And Around The World Have Nothing To Do With Gurdwara Politics. Also How Come Raveenaa Aulakh Doesn't Write About Or Want To Ban Churches Where Pedophiles Seem To Thrive? Why Does She Hate Sikhs In General So Much?

But Back To The Topic, The Truth Is Gangsters Run Gurdwaras, And Other Gangsters Want To Take Over Gurdwaras. All Around The World Too Much Corruption. Its All About $$$ $$$ $$$. Guru Sahib Kirpa Karan That Authentic NishKhaam True Khalsa Dharma Aashikhs Rise Like The Phoenix And Bring True Khalsa Dharma (Which Of Course Includes Pooran Ang Sang Sri Panj Kakaar Sahib Jees) To The Whole World In Authentic NishKhaam Khalsa Prem In Thought, Word And Deed.

True NishKhaam Gursikhs Have To Rise All Over The World.

Guru Sahib Kirpa Karan.

[lovekhalistan]

Everything is going exactly what Sant Hari Singh Ji Randhawa wale said in katha Neh Kalanak Avtar.

http://gurbaniupdesh.com/multimedia/listing.php?q=f&f=%2F04-Katha%2F08-Sant+Baba+Hari+Singh+Ji+%28Randhawe+Wale%29%2FNeh+Kalank+Avtaar

[punjab5]

Everything is going exactly what Sant Hari Singh Ji Randhawa wale said in katha Neh Kalanak Avtar.

http://gurbaniupdesh...h+Kalank+Avtaar

So are we supposed to stay quite and doing nothing about this, becaues that is what is supposed to happen?

My understanding is that the teachings of our Guru's states that we should develop solutions to tackle such issues, not be pacifists.