Dusshera

[apnepart2]

Maybe Vishunu sees himself as Supreme God. He is unaware of God by the way as per Japji sahib. God gets revealed only through Naam from true Guru - Guru Nanak. Think about this when Gods like Vishnu Brahma Shiv Krishna couldnt realise God what will happen to those who follow them. And about Shakti of Vahiguroo, theres no bigger shakti than Khalsa revealed by Guru Gobind Singh. Sadly our millions of brother & sisters have not been able to realise who & what they are.

[N30S1NGH]

According to sant jagjit singh ji harkhowale and pretty much all of puratan samparda's - Gurmat is anadi, its always been there in different forms. If sikh theology was that simple, any tom, d ick, harry would became authority in sikhism.

http://www.gurmarag....0is%20anadi.mp3

[apnepart2]

If sikh theology was that simple, any tom, d ick, harry would became authority in sikhism.....

and there would be no need of so called elevated 'sants', babas, etc. Before listening to the people to who preach what Gurus said lets hear what the Guru himself told a Pandit who said Vedas are there so theres no need of Guru ki Bani. Guruji replied- Veds are are like water hidden deep in earth. A lot of effort and difficult work is rquired to take it out. And even then only some of the water comes out and only a 'cherished' and 'priviledged' few can enjoy it. Whereas Guru bani is like Rain Water. It rains on everyone - equally.

[N30S1NGH]

You can read the discussion on different context of satguru's- http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/29923-usage-of-satguru-phrase-and-status-of-krishan-in-gurbani/page__st__40

[N30S1NGH]

Vedas are there so theres no need of Guru ki Bani. Guruji replied- Veds are are like water hidden deep in earth. A lot of effort and difficult work is rquired to take it out. And even then only some of the water comes out and only a 'cherished' and 'priviledged' few can enjoy it. Whereas Guru bani is like Rain Water. It rains on everyone - equally.

This is great quote, I totally agree with you on this one but its bit unrelated with the topic we are discussing.

[guruvah]

Like Baba Ji said in his katha, and the previous Avatars have their place, they were for the previous yugs [ages], but in this age for us Sikhs, we focus on Guru Nanak Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj .

since you believe that each yug had its own avatars and were incarnation of god.....

So you people also believe that Guru Nanak Dev Sahib Maharaj will get outdated/not relevant when Kalyug ends?

[apnepart2]

Not only that but Sikhs will also vanish then as Sikhs are only of Guru Nanak. This is directly contrary to what Guru Gobind Singhji said he has established Khalsa panth as per command of vahiguru. Was he lying? Was he founding time limited panth? People who killed and banished Buddhists from india know they cannot force Sikhs through use of Arms, so another tactic needs to be adopted. Also times have changed and Govts want end of Sikhi for their own gains.

[N30S1NGH]

Read the concept of maha parloa.After kalyug ends there is no universe..everything including sargun parkritis gets merged back in nirgun vahiguroo.

[apnepart2]

yesterday hukamnama from guru sahib was as follows

summary

a lot of people try to show their knowledge of ved kateb and try to appear all knowing about god. they waste not only their but others time. hey my inner soul try and sit for a while calmly and concentrate your thoughts upon the lord with steady state for a second. you will realise everything.

[N30S1NGH]

I don't know what exactly you are trying to prove here veer but concept of parloa is listed in gurbani as well.

ਉਤਪਤਿ ਪਰਲਉ ਸਬਦੇ ਹੋਵੈ ॥

outhapath paralo sabadhae hovai ||

Creation and destruction happen through the Word of the Shabad.

8 Maajh Guru Amar Das

Gurbani used parloa many times, this word parloa is NOT re-defined, its totally aligned with bigger concept of maha parloa.