Koran Burning Issue Compared To Beadbi Of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji In Delhi

[Southall Youth]

For now Pastor Jones has called of the Koran burning on Sept11 2010, but already we have seen the likes of Anjem Chaudry in the UK telling Muslims to burn American flags,Pakistan writing to Interpol to arrest Pastor Jones, US Military Chiefs calling the Pastor ,the Pentagon and Defence Secratary calling the Pastor to stop him burning the Koran - its top headlines all over the place and the World is braced for Muslim outrage if it still goes ahead,even India is worried itself and has asked America to stop the Pastor as its Muslim population is huge.

Compare this to the Beadbi done in Delhi by that Chela Ram guy in which thousands upon thousands of Saroops,Pothia,Gutkeh and Sikh literature was found in the gutters amongst sewage ,beadbi beyond description.

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The Koran hasn't even been burned yet and the whole world is gripped with fear ,we have had 1984 happen to us and beadbi of such a scale recently take place in Delhi that we cannot even begin to describe.In the last 26 years beadbi of such a scale has happened that it outstrips that of the times of the Mougls and British put together.

Yet after this recent news and of the past few years of Pakhandis challenging the Sikh Nation like Ram Raheem,Radhaswamis,Narkhdharis,Namdharis,Noormehlias,Ashutoshia,Hindutva RSS and so on ,- our nation sits like a duck silent as ever our Takhts are under the grip of the Govt. and our leaders are sell outs.

Each and everyone of us should be ashamed of ourselves as a nation ,we are a disgrace to our forefathers our Shaheeds and our Gurus.We have become money hungry selfish people as a nation only caring about ourselves and our own with disregard to any problems in the Panth,as long as we have a roof a nice car,food,job family we dont care about our religion or nation,this can be seen from Panjab to the UK to USA,the few percentage of us who do care are looked down upon by this ignorant majority of our community and our so called leaders and Jathedars who tour the world.

Shaheed Sant Jarnail Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindranwale - taught us one thing that anyone who does beadbi of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji - , Sikh Scriptures,Talks bad about our Gurus,Rapes our Girls and Women will be doomed to death.26 Years after the Shaheedi of Sant Ji those who gave Kurbani lived up to those words,the ones who gave Kurbani stood their ground even after our own helped destroy the movement,and today we sit here after all these incidents in the last 26 yrs till recently Ludhiana shootings of Sikhs,labelled as terrorists to this Beadbi by Chela Ram.

[Pyara]

It stems down to a feeling of collective ownership and responsibility. I think we Sikhs are lacking this at the moment. In general, I believe that the majority of us feel we have little influence in our dharmic decisions and therefore opt out from doing anything constructive for our kaum.

At present we have too many "Cheifs and not enough Indians", under this false pretence the Sikhs think (or lazily assume that) there is a competent leadership structure that will deal with our issues. The truth is we currently have no representation at a Governing level, no Global influence and little energy/will power to combat any direct attacks on the Kaum. We have many self appointed Jathedars and groups who travel the world claiming to represent Sikhs, but they don't deliver and seem great at diverting our attention from the real problems.

In my view there's no point in a Takht, a Dal, a Taksaal, a Samparda, a Jatha, a Committee if all they do is generate countless excuses to not address issues in the kaum.

[PAL 07]

absolutely brilliant - well said 'pyara'

[Only five]

Comparing these two is like comparing apples and oranges.

For one Sikhs are not terrorist willing to blow themselves up and kill innocent people who had nothing to do with Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji being disrespected.

Muslims on the other hand have no problem killing the innocent and blowing themsleves up in the process. They don't care of innocent people die.

Sikhs on the other hand care about if an innocent dies or not. Sikhs will only attack those that committed the crime.

The governments know how Muslims work and Sikhs works(they know our disciplines), so they take it into consideration who is more of a threat to society as a whole. And it's pretty obvious the answer is Muslims. So inorder to please the Muslims and from getting bombed on from every direction, these governments like US and Canada are speaking out and saying it is a wrong action, to burn the Koran. These government are looking out for their best interest.

Say the Sikhs were like the Muslims then, these governments will see us as a threat to their nation and they will do anything in their power to please us.

The more noise you make in this world the more these politicians bow down do you and make sure they don't hurt you in anyway. US has learned their lesson of not messing with luantic fanatic Muslims. They don't want more US citizen blood on their hands.

[GPS]

What have our Sikh Qoum the Sikh Nation done ,where is Gurbachna Jathedar Akal Takht?Where are all our leaders?Where are all our Sants and Mahapurakhs? Where are all our Jathebandia?

Some people thrive on anti panthic agenda. Is this appropriate terminology for jathedar of akal takhat? Not at all.

What action their buddy Sarna has taken? He is involved in this more than anybody else.Why are not they exposing him?

They should expose his anti panthic agenda than using derogatory language for jathedar of akal Takhat sahib.

I expect Moderators to take action against such persons.

[S1ngh]

Singh ji, Please show respect to jathedar sahibs regardless of any difference you or others may have with him. Post edited. Now please stay on topic.

[geo]

Comparing these two is like comparing apples and oranges.

For one Sikhs are not terrorist willing to blow themselves up and kill innocent people who had nothing to do with Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji being disrespected.

Muslims on the other hand have no problem killing the innocent and blowing themsleves up in the process. They don't care of innocent people die.

Sikhs on the other hand care about if an innocent dies or not. Sikhs will only attack those that committed the crime.

The governments know how Muslims work and Sikhs works(they know our disciplines), so they take it into consideration who is more of a threat to society as a whole. And it's pretty obvious the answer is Muslims. So inorder to please the Muslims and from getting bombed on from every direction, these governments like US and Canada are speaking out and saying it is a wrong action, to burn the Koran. These government are looking out for their best interest.

Say the Sikhs were like the Muslims then, these governments will see us as a threat to their nation and they will do anything in their power to please us.

The more noise you make in this world the more these politicians bow down do you and make sure they don't hurt you in anyway. US has learned their lesson of not messing with luantic fanatic Muslims. They don't want more US citizen blood on their hands.

does your post apply to all muslims? are you saying that all muslims have no problem in killing the innocent and blowing themselves up?

are you also saying that sikh people have never attacked or killed an innocent person?

it is language like this which spreads hatred amongst people. all i am saying is that you consider your use of language?

also i would like to ask: would you kill someone who burned your holy book? if not, what action would you take?

[mohinder pal]

Guys,

What is Terrorist??? Do you call Anybody fighting for his motherland a Terrorist????? THATS WHAT AMERICA DID. American Senators and Condressmen glorified America as Good Country fighting agnst the Evil Countries. Thay attacked Iraq/Afghanistan and Declared Iraqis and Afghanis fighting agnst America 'Terrorist'.

This is all Media Frenzy..that was the same situation when Indian Govt Declred Sant Jarnail Singh ji and Group as Terrorost.

Now America has come up new Word ''ISLAM-O-PHOBIA"Fear of Islam.

Let me tell u one thing, No Dharam/Religion advocates Wars against Humanity. This War of Words agnt Islam and Christanisty created in America first whenUS army burnt the Qurans in Afghanistan and Now Terry Jones wanted to Burn Qurans. NOW TELL ME ONE THING. IS it a Problem of Islam/Christanity or Terry jones. When American govt. wants to create fear in the minds of American People that ISLAM is Bad. WHO IS WRONG HERE. Human or Religion??????

I donot think if same thing happens in Punjab. Any Sikh is going to Sit Idle. Ultimately it is Problem created by FEW MAD People who think there people/Religion/Creed/caste is far superior than Others.

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