Census - How To :)

[Khalasthan86]

[Hammertime007]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/b006wqgk/Thursday/console

Nihal and usual Anti Sikh lot.

I have for bout 8 years Put British Sikh on any forms I fill out.

We shouldn’t be bracket with the rest of the “Asian” Community.

When Pakistanis groom white girls for sex the media always write Asian they are not spefic.

Also they only time Pakistani see us as fellow Asians is when their own community is under scrutiny and they want to drag us in to the mud too.

[gurdssingh]

Its imperative sikhs tick q.16 as other and fill in sikh.

Q.20 tick sikh as religion.

Today on bbc asian network there was a discussion about seperate ethnicity for sikhs and kashmiris. I only caught the last 20 mins of bbc asian network discussion. I knew back in 1983 sikhs were given seperate ethnic identity in uk only other group is jews. What i did not know and heard was that gypsies have been given a separate ethnic class in census where there are only a couple of thousand. The law lords recognise sikhs as an ethnic community so why not the census/ons? Sikhs should be classed as ethnicity as the law of the land recognises it.

Also on the radio Gurjit Singh from leicester well known singh (uncle ji been doin seva for decades), stated that back in 1983 leicester city council conducted an independant survey of sikhs in leicester at a cost of quater million it showed 11000 sikhs in 1983, the last govt. Census results showed 10000 something, i cant remember exact figure but he said something has gone wrong. How can numbers decrase? Because my family has been here since the 40's, my parents born and raised and i was born here in 80. Trust me theres alot more sikhs than back in the 80's. Just have to look at how many more gurdwareh there are.

[gurdssingh]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/b006wqgk/Thursday/console

Nihal and usual Anti Sikh lot.

I have for bout 8 years Put British Sikh on any forms I fill out.

We shouldn’t be bracket with the rest of the “Asian” Community.

When Pakistanis groom white girls for sex the media always write Asian they are not spefic.

Also they only time Pakistani see us as fellow Asians is when their own community is under scrutiny and they want to drag us in to the mud too.

I did not catch the whole show only last parts. But it was balanced.

The tick the ethnicity as other and sikh, argument by the guests was much more articulate and was so much more convincing than the ons guy. Ethnicity as sikh came out on top, only thing was the people who texted and phoned in who claimed to be sikh say to say they would tick asian british indian. So what let them, they hardly had sikh names anyway.

Btw bbc has to be impartial and so does nihal its there job. They cant overly favour one side. They have to present both sides.

[Hammertime007]

^^^Fair enough I will go with it was balanced, however this caller who always phoned up called Jasminder as he did here claims to be Sikh but is always critical aMd anti Sikh in all of his calls.

He has never presented any view thats is of orthodox Sikhi way of thinking, and even once said that General Brar freed the Golden Temple in Operation Blue Star.

Jasminder is nothing more than RSS in disguise.

[amzsingh]

Gurfateh Jee,

Click here to view this cool article: 2011 Census & the Sikhs http://bit.ly/e1EtyP

(ps, has anyone noticed the 'blank' question?)

[11Gurus1Jot]

Remember: we as sikhs must fill in the Census as a separate ethnic group (as shown in RSingh96's post above) or people may start to call us liars!!

The reason being...

The definition I have seen for Ethnic is "cultural: denoting or deriving from or distinctive of the ways of living built up by a group of people"

We are all constantly told that Sikhi is not just a religion but also a way of life - True? So if we did not mark ourselves as a separate Ethnic group on the Census Form, then wouldn't that make us liars??????? Because, as Sikhs, we are not supposed to tell lies!!!

[11Gurus1Jot]

If any Singhs or Kaurs want to, they could contact the channels below to start running short promotions every hour, every day, showing the clips RSingh96 has got on his post above. It would be a really good idea if, on issues such as this, all the TV channels got together and made one promotion ad for this Census issue. This would work really well in two ways, 1) the message would be consistent from all 3 TV channels , reducing any confusion within the sangat, and 2) it would only cost them a 3rd of the cost to make the promo (a real win win I think you'll agree). The Sikh Radio Stations could do the same too.

Like I say, if anybody knows anyone at any of these channels then please contact them with this 'one census promo for all 3 channels' idea, as the date is getting closer!!!. All Singhs or Kaurs should contact them too!

Sky 840 Sikh Channel Mob 07932 828 200 Tel 0121 380 1050 info@sikhchannel.tv

Sky 847 Sangat TV email info@sangattrust.org

Sky 848 Sikh TV Mob 07574 779935 Tel 0121 761 1313 email info@thesikhtv.com

Sky 0150 Sukh Sagar Radio (tel 0208 571 7200 or 0208 813 900 info@sukhsagarradio.com

Sky 0716 Amrit Bani Radio (tel 020 8606 9292/9595) info@amritbani.com

[11Gurus1Jot]

Sikh Channel 840 did a program on this today, However, I only caught the end.

From what I saw it seemed to be in Punjabi. I wonder if any of the Stations will air a Census 2011 programme in English?

Sky 840 Sikh Channel Mob 07932 828 200 Tel 0121 380 1050 info@sikhchannel.tv

Sky 847 Sangat TV email info@sangattrust.org

Sky 848 Sikh TV Mob 07574 779935 Tel 0121 761 1313 email info@thesikhtv.com

Sky 0150 Sukh Sagar Radio (tel 0208 571 7200 or 0208 813 900 info@sukhsagarradio.com

Sky 0716 Amrit Bani Radio (tel 020 8606 9292/9595) info@amritbani.com