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Balbir Singh this isn't about Bhai Gurdas Ji or anyone else. it is simple, you still do not accept the waheguru mantar as the gurmantar! It was this silly view of your that you got banned from Sikhawareness. As you know the Guru so well, if you take a peek inot ht ebhatt sawaiyas of the 4th Pathshah you will find the waheguru mantar there.

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Balbir Singh, you ccan find the mantar in the bhatt savaiyas on ang 1402 but that wont matter to you as you are a dehdhari and no dehdharis will give you this mantar

ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਵਾਹਿ ਜੀਉ ॥

Vaahiguroo Vaahiguroo Vaahiguroo Vaahi Jeeo ||

वाहिगुरू वाहिगुरू वाहिगुरू वाहि जीउ ॥

Waahay Guru, Waahay Guru, Waahay Guru, Waahay Jee-o.

11 ਸਵਈਏ ਮਹਲੇ ਚਉਥੇ ਕੇ (ਭਟ ਗਯੰਦ) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੪੦੨ ਪੰ. ੧੧

Savaiye (praise of Guru Ram Das) Bhatt Gayand

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Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal,

Dear all and kam1825 Jee,

The true Gurus never mentioned that Waheguru is a Mantar or Gurmantra.

Please listen. Gurdev is singing through Naamdev Jee about those who create Mantar.

ਦੁਸਟ ਸਭਾ ਮਿਲਿ ਮੰਤਰ ਉਪਾਇਆ ਕਰਸਹ ਅਉਧ ਘਨੇਰੀ ॥

दुसट सभा मिलि मंतर उपाइआ करसह अउध घनेरी ॥

Dust sabhaa mili mantar upaaiaa karsah aodh ghaneree. SGGS Ang 1165-9

Council of villains meets and produces Mantar, making life dense.

Balbir Singh

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<br />The origin of Waheguru Mantar is Bhai Gurdaas Jee, the real Guru of many preachers.<br /><br />The true Gurus never suggest anybody that Waheguru is a Mantar.<br /><br />Many people follow Bhai Gurdaas Jee's instruction doing Japu of Waheguru Mantar. But nobody calls him the Guru. Why?<br /><br /><br />Balbir Singh<br />
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Khalsa ji

If "Waheguru" is not Gurmantr then what is your definition of Gurmantr?

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Ik▫oaʼnkār saṯ nām

One Universal Creator God. Truth Is His Name..

siq nwmu pRB kw suKdweI ]

The True Name of God is the Giver of peace.

sat naam parabh kaa sukh-daa-ee.

SGGS 283

siq nwmu qyrw prw pUrblw ]

`Sat Naam` is Your perfect, primal Name.

sat naam tayraa paraa poorbalaa.

SGGS 1083

jip mn siq nwmu sdw siq nwmu ]

Chant, O my mind, the True Name, Sat Naam, the True Name.

jap man sat naam sadaa sat naam.

SGGS 670

nmskwr gurdyv ko siqnwmu ijsu mMqR suxwieAw]

namasakaar guradhaev ko sathinaam jis ma(n)thr sunaaeiaa||

I bow before the Guru (Guru Nanak Dev) who recited the Satnam Mantra (for the world).

Bhai Gurdaas Ji

Vaars Bhai Gurdaas


kiljug bwby qwirAw siqnwmu piV mMqR suxwieAw]

kalijug baabae thaariaa sathinaam parr ma(n)thr sunaaeiaa||

Baba Nanak rescued this dark age (Kalyug) and recited ‘Satnam’ mantra for one and all.

Bhai Gurdaas Ji

Vaars Bhai Gurdaas


jIqI nauKMf mydnI siqnwm dw ckR iPrwieAw]

jeethee noukha(n)dd maedhanee sathinaam dhaa chakr firaaeiaa||

Subjugating all the nine divisions of earth he established the cycle of Satnam, the True name.

Bhai Gurdaas Ji

Vaars Bhai Gurdaas


siqnwmu krqw purKu inrBau hoie inrvYru sdwieAw]

sathinaam karathaa purakh nirabho hoe niravair sadhaaeiaa||

Then He was called Satnam, the Truth by name, Kartapurakh, the creator Lord, narwhal, the fearless one, and nervier, without rancour.

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Passage from Sarbloh Granth - chapter 5, page 631 (Vol. II of Steek)

ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਅੰਸ ਕਲਾ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ, ਤਿਨ ਸੁਭ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਬਖਾਨੇ ॥

Satiguru Nanak is the true lineage (ans) and power (shakti) of the Lord, He recited the pure scripture (granth).

ਨਾਮ ਉਪਾਸਨ, ਨਾਮ ਅਰਾਧਨ, ਨਾਮਹਿ ਜਪੁ ਤ੍ਰਿਪਤਾਨੇ ॥

(In the scripture it says) Worshiping the Name, Taking support of the Name, and reciting the name you shall be carried across (the terrifying ocean that is the world)

ਸਚੁ ਉਪਦੇਸ ਸੰਗਤਿ ਕਉ ਦੀਨਾ, ਬਸਤੁ ਨਾਮ ਨਿਰਬਾਨੇ ॥

Giving the true teaching to the Sangat, the Naam (True Name), it emancipated them

ਮਹਾਂਮੰਤ੍ਰ ਤਾਰਕ ਸਤਿਨਾਮਾ, ਸੋ ਗੁਰੁ ਕੀਨੋ ਦਾਨੇ ॥੩॥

The Guru gave the Great Mantra (MahaMantra), the one which shall take you across (the ocean that is this world), Satinaam (the True Naam)

Truth is His name.

Satnam Ji

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