Pakistan Helping Khalistan Movement

[PunjabiPredator]

http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/08-17a-04.asp

[sher-e-panjab]

our singhs are so stupid, pakistan are only 'helping' us so that they can use us later on to get their kashmir independant

[PunjabiPredator]

Not really thats what the Indian View is for Pakistan helping us with Khalistan. They don't need us they can get Kashmir themselves and they treat apni people in Pakistan with respect unlike India. They also told us during the Indian Independence thing not to go with India and that EDITED would stab us in the back but we didn't listen and now look at us. :T:

MOD: DO NOT GO ON ANY RELIGION, IT WAS REGIME WHO DID NOT A SPECIFIC RELIGION.

[sher-e-panjab]

thats not the 'indian view' its the truth, think to yourself wot does pakistan gain by helping us, why would they help us if they want nothing in return.

They also told us during the Indian Independence thing not to go with India and that EDITED would stab us in the back but we didn't listen and now look at us

yes but we were promised many things by gandhi n nehru, but who would u have trusted, gandhi who as many ppl thought 'got india independant' or jinnah who wanted to divide the country, who took half of punjab away from india and many historical places

[PunjabiPredator]

thats not the 'indian view' its the truth, think to yourself wot does pakistan gain by helping us, why would they help us if they want nothing in return.

It is the Indian View if you don't believe me go watch Hawiyen at the end part when they kill the evil pakistani general who was going to trick us into making Khalistan into Kashmir

yes but we were promised many things by gandhi n nehru, but who would u have trusted, gandhi who as many ppl thought 'got india independant' or jinnah who wanted to divide the country, who took half of punjab away from india and many historical places

Pakistan didn't say to us after Independence to make Khalistan into Kashmir or to give them something in return when they said that Hindus might stab us in the back. We were not going to lose anything with siding with Pakistan and it wasn't just Pakistan it was also the British who asked us if we wanted Khalistan in 1947 if it was me i would rather have had Khalistan even if Hindus were our best friends.

As for the MOD on the forum most people that killed Sikhs during the riots were edited not the regime. Yes the regime might have said do th

is and that but there were groups of people that were going around killing people too and most people on this message board talk about other religions doing this and that why you changing my message? I am not bad mouthing any religion but you can't change the truth.

mod: during riots many sikh names also came so that doesnt means sikh killed sikh it was regimes game not sikhs or hindus, this is first waring to u STOP POINTING ON ANY RELIGION THINK BEFORE WHAT U WRITE.

[PunjabiPredator]

MOD

Why don't you change you saintsoldiers site layout then since it was the regime that was bad why does it say "Hindu Leaders" and other stuff about Hindus? Why don't you call it "Regime Leaders" or something else that doesn't point to a specific religion.

[Guest SaintSoldier]

Nothing wrong with the titling "Hindu Leaders". It hasn't shown common Hindu people as tyrants. There are bad leaders in all communities. Sikhs have their share too.

[uk_khalistani]

Pakistan can stick it where the sun dont shine cos as far as I am concerned Pakistan has no interests in seeing a Khalistan established as we would want the whole of Punjab to be part of it so the they would lose out too if Khalistan was made.

The pakistani's real long term aim is to grab Kashmir for itself or make it independant as long as it is a muslim country.

Our strategy, as Sikhs worldwide, at the moment must be to wait and see approach. Pakistan is not very stable itself and if a civil war was to brake out it then it would provide the right time to for freedom fighters to liberate punjab from Islamic hold on punjab.

But the biggest hurdle is international politics, until the situation changes and this mences of al-qaeda and taliban are not defeated. The USA administration will continue to lend support to Pakistan even though it does so with gritted teeth.

[MilitaryMindz]

Well in World Affairs, the only way you can get any support is when there is an interest for other parties to somehow benefit mutually from your cause. The current situation in this world blantantly shows us this example.

And it is well known that India and Pakistan are not best of friends, so whatever way these two major players direct their efforts to undermine eachother's rule...Sikhs can stand to benefit...on the one hand Punjab is under Islamic Rule on the other under Brahmanic Rule...none of which serve interests of Sikhs.

And to try to get caught up with the regular politics of vilifying Pakistan is to serve the interest of the Brahmins...and no matter which side you turn to you will have to be on one side of the fence or the other.

So all this non sense of the ISI suspectedly supporting some militants is evil....is purely there to serve the interests of individuals who would rather keep Sikhs under their thumbs.....What about the Indian Govt;s role in the 1985 Air INdia Bombings that was addressed by the book SOFT TARGET... wasnt that evil???

We must look at both sides.

[PunjabiPredator]

Pakistan can stick it where the sun dont shine cos as far as I am concerned Pakistan has no interests in seeing a Khalistan established as we would want the whole of Punjab to be part of it so the they would lose out too if Khalistan was made.

The pakistani's real long term aim is to grab Kashmir for itself or make it independant as long as it is a muslim country.

Our strategy, as Sikhs worldwide, at the moment must be to wait and see approach. Pakistan is not very stable itself and if a civil war was to brake out it then it would provide the right time to for freedom fighters to liberate punjab from Islamic hold on punjab.

But the biggest hurdle is international politics, until the situation changes and this mences of al-qaeda and taliban are not defeated. The USA administration will continue to lend support to Pakistan even though it does so with gritted teeth.

Pakistan does see interest in seeing Khalistan being established. They wanted us to have Khalistan in 1947 they would have lost land and so would have India and what would they have got from that? Punjab might be under Islamic rule but our people are better off there without Indian rule. Most Sikhs living in pakistan are happy there you can look at pictures or you can ask someone or go there yourself and see. As for Pakistan wanting Kashmir all to themselves is not correct Kashmir wants to be either independent or with Pakistan but no

t with India. :TH: