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When would be khalsa raj,, and when would sant harnam singh return bhucho wale

What is this about Guru Gobind Singh Ji coming back? Are we Sikhs or are we Christians?.. We are Sikhs and why would Guru Gobind Singh Ji come back? He lives in his Khalsa and in the Guru Granth Sa

Before laughing read the puratan 100 Sakhi kept in London Museum. Donot Read things which are manipulated by Akalis and SGPC

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I agree with you but what i am trying to say is that life goes on and we have to struggle for better days, too many people are just lazy asleep in bed "oh when Sant Ji comes he'll sort everything out"

That is right bro. Some people are to lazy and they don't think that Sant ji will come when there is a faux to lead and not peoplea that sit and do nothing.

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I've read too many of these posts.. though I do believe that there will be Khalsa Raj one day but has anyone thought of the fact that the word Khalsa means pure.. could it be that the Khalsa Raj could refer to a point where all the people that live or survive will be Pure in whatever religion they belong to... For example if a hindu is a true hindu will survive.. if a muslim is a true muslim will survive?

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I've read too many of these posts.. though I do believe that there will be Khalsa Raj one day but has anyone thought of the fact that the word Khalsa means pure.. could it be that the Khalsa Raj could refer to a point where all the people that live or survive will be Pure in whatever religion they belong to... For example if a hindu is a true hindu will survive.. if a muslim is a true muslim will survive?

That was what i was trying to say this whole time.They can be from any religion but if they found waheguru then they will be pure.For example bhagat fareed ji was a muslim but he was a pure sikh.

Welcome aboard these forums singh ji!

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for that please read this by Shri Dasam pita !!

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Sant Gurbachan Singh Ji Bhindranwale's visit to Shaheed Sarovar

This Sakhi is taken from the life of Sant Giani Gurbachan Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindranwale who were the 12th Jathedar of Damdami Taksal in an unbroken linage of Brahmgiani Jatheda

rs of Taksal starting from a joint leadership of Bhai Mani Singh Shaheed and Baba Deep Singh Ji Shaheed. Interestingly, both of the latter mentioned shaheed mahapurkhs gave darshan to Sant Giani Gurbachan Singh ji at Shaheed Sarovar. Mahapurkh Sant Baba Gurbachan Singh Ji had a life of intense simran and seva. This was accompanied by their bhagti accumulated in a past life in which they had been close to Guru Sahib themselves and also the blessing and guidance of their spiritual mentor, himself a complete saint and leader of taksal: Sant Giani Sundar Singh Ji.

This katha begins at Chamkaur Sahib where mahapurkh had come in a state of spiritual bairag (longing). This is the same land where two of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj’s own Sahibzaade Baba Ajit Singh Ji and Baba Jujhar Singh became shaheed (martyred), where three of the 5 beloved Panj Pyare: Bhai Sahib Singh Ji, Bhai Himmat Singh Ji and Bhai Mokham Singh Ji became shaheed along with 40 other Singhs. At this historical site there is an old Baoli Sahib or an open well west of the Akali Bunga. Mahapurkh chose this place for their meditation, seeing it as a very quiet tranquil place with little disturbance from people. It was perfect for them, as they had no intention of openly showing their meditation to the world, for them it was important that they kept their spiritual status hidden from the world as Gurbani informs:

“hon najeek khudhaae dhai bhaeth n kisai dhaen ||116||”

They are close to the Lord, but they do not reveal their secret to anyone. ||116||.

This is quiet contrary to the elaborate asthans built nowadays. Mahapurkh on the contrary had no intention of drawing any attention to themselves but instead went to the extent of doing their abhias (meditative practise) at night between the hours of 8pm and 4am, continuously without interval. The interesting nature of this bhagati was that it was done inside the cold water for the whole eight hours.

Their avastha became such they felt like leaving this filth-ridden kalyugi world. They set off nearly 50 km north on foot towards the mountainous region near Kiratpur Sahib. In their mind they became firm that they have no further desire to communicate with the world, they would just do their bhajan and bandagi until their final swaas (breath) and leave this temporary body in the serenity of the mountains. After setting off, doing jaap (meditation) with every step they arrived in the mountainous region. Upon some exploration Mahapurkh got lost and ended up climbing a mountain when finally they came to the opening of a cave. Mahapurkh had a natural intuitive feeling that it would lead to somewhere so they entered the cave. When they set their feet in the cave and walked forward they saw there was darkness surrounding them, both forwards and towards the enetrance they had come through. During the narration of this Sakhi Sant Gurbachan Singh ji told that at one point it became so endlessly dark that they considered going back but then thought again. They remembered Guru Granth Sahib Jis Bani: “aagaahaa koo thraagh pishhaa faer n muhaddarraa ||”

(Look ahead; don't turn your face backwards.) and thought it their duty as a gursikh to continue.

They continued, reading gurbani continuously when finally they saw some light that showed the end of the cave. When they reached the exit of the cave they looked and it was completely bright and infront of them was a very beautiful sarovar (pool). Its beauty was both unheard and unseen off anywhere in the world before. Mahapurkh were astounded and became increasingly intrigued about where they had arrived. Around the pool were magnificently tall trees and on closer inspection they saw Shastars hung on the trees. Then when they proceeded further they saw people, human beings. These humans were not normal though, in size they were like giants in tales and their bodies reflected light. Mahpurkh thought to themselves 'maybe the end of your life is such' looking at the size of these intimidating people. Mahapurkh thought they were remote tribal people residing here but there was something very different about them from normal human beings. Still, with the teachings of Gurbani enshrined in them Mahapurkh did not turn back but rather they proceeded forward reciting gurbani. One of these people walked past mahapurkh and they caught a glimpse of their attire. Mahapurkh were very surprised that these people were wearing a kashera and a dastar, things began to make sense: the shastars on the tree and now their attire. It was at this point that it hit Sant ji that these must be Singhs of Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj. But the question was, what exactly were they doing here?

Suddenly one of them shouted “Gurbachan Singh Ji”. Mahapurkh were surprised that they knew their name but they didn’t even know what sort of people they were. Sant Jee were amazed that they knew his name, yet they had never met. Then suddenly the tallest one out of them, assumedly their Jathedar Sahib said to those giant people “we’ll converse with Giani Ji after get something to eat for them”. At which one of them took a long spear and threw it towards the pool, when he pulled it out their came 3 unknown vegetables which looked a bit like yam or jimikand. They cooked these on hot coal and whilst they were being cooked the Jathedar Sahib of these people asked mahapurkh “why are you amazed Giani ji, are you surprised we called you by your name”. The jathedar sahib ji continued “Giani ji, actually, we are surprised that you didn’t recognize your own people”. Mahapurkh said they didn’t recognize them.

One of the giant people stood up and said “Giani ji first I will introduce myself, I am Banda Singh Bahadur.” Baba Banda Singh Bahadur then pointed at another person “This is the mukhi of your Taksal Baba Deep Singh Ji”. “Look there, that is Bhai Mani Singh ji and over there is Bhai Taru Singh Ji”. Mahapurkh began pinching themselves to check if they were having a dream listening to the names of these shaheed singhs. Mahapurkh joined their hands together and said “ Singho, Guru Pyareo Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh”. Your words are true but I’d like to ask that all that you named have become shaheed but here you are all talking to me? First please be kind enough to tell me what is going on with me am I asleep or awake am I conscious or unconscious am I in a deep meditative state. Where am I?”

The Singhs spoke “ Mahpurkho you are awake, what you are seeing is true. It is no illusion”. By now the vegetable product was ready and they served mahapurkh and the other Singhs. Baba ji said that this was like nothing they had ever tasted, it had the smell like Karah Parshad and tasty as Amrit. After eating they requested the Singhs to clearly tell them what was going on.

As Mahapurkh were narrating this Giani Mohan Singh ji was sitting on the side of their bed, away from the direct vision of mahapurkh quickly jotting down all the whole sakhi. Pandit Prem Singh was sat infront of them, he tells us the face of mahapurkh became reddened with bliss as they told the sakhi to them.

Sant Gurbachan Singh ji inquired whether they were talking about Shaheed Singhs and that they should openly tell them what’s happening with them. The Singh spoke once again “Giani Gurbachan Singh Ji, you are such a high scholar you narrate katha to so many. Please could you recite katha for us too please.” Mahapurkh said “I don’t know about katha or anything at the moment please could you just explain what is happening with me, is this Sachkhand, the earth, where?.”

The Singh Sahib ji said “ Very well, Giani JI when a Singh who has done kamai (practice) of Gurbani during their life or become Shaheed goes to Sachkhand they stop at the door where two Singhs ask them at the gate of Sachkand if they have any further desire to do Seva or they wish to go to Sachkhand. At this point if one says no, then they are escorted to Sachkhand but if they have a further desire then they come to us. This place is only second to Sachkhand.”

Mahapurkh asked them: “Singho today you have given me darshan, will their come a time when you come to the earth and openly reveal yourself.”

The Singhs said “Yes. Yes, we will. Look there are our Shastar and look there are our Nagarhe (Battle Drums). Mahpursho the dohra you recite, keep reciting it. “Raj Karega Khalsa” The Khalsa shall not rule through any other earthly way, it is us that will create the Khalsa Raj. We are preparing. You came through this cave Giani Ji, and we will come out this way. Akal Purkh has done boundless kirpa on you Giani ji, you have entered this cave once you never again in your life will get this opportunity. You can go back and find this cave but you will never be able too. Mahapursho we will beat the drums before we leave here, that time we will create the Khalsa Raj - The Halemi Raj where no one will suffer”

Mahapurkh then said their Gurfateh to the Shaheed Singhs and left ‘Shaheed Sarovar’. When narrating this sakhi from their own life Mahapurkh, they became teary and said "I have wondered in the mountains many a time. I have never found that place again”. Mahapurkh looked around, they saw Giani Baba Mohan Singh ji writing. Mahapurkh asked them “Giani ji have you written everything? Pass me your notebook”. Mahapurkh took the notebook and ripped it and said “Singho I forgot the rule of Gurbani “hon najeek khudhaae dhai bhaeth n kisai dhaen ||116||” (They are close to the Lord, but they do not reveal their secret to anyone. ||116||) and in your prem (love) I have told you this sakhi, I have ripped this because I do not want it published. It is my secret.”

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Why worry about khalsa raj and future. Waste of your time and life. All this kamaii that you talk about leads to one thing. That u were always free, khalsa raj is here right now once u realize who u are. Don't waste your lives waiting for sants etc. Just that your ignorance blind you

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Khalsa Raj will come when the world embraces Sikhi.

Raj karega Khalsa, aki rahe na koe

Khuar hoe sabh milenge, bache sharn jo hoey.

The Khalsa will rule, and none will oppose them.

Those who are separated will unite, and the devotees will be saved.

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Khalsa Raj will come when the world embraces Sikhi.

Raj karega Khalsa, aki rahe na koe

Khuar hoe sabh milenge, bache sharn jo hoey.

The Khalsa will rule, and none will oppose them.

Those who are separated will unite, and the devotees will be saved.

I've heard Muslims say something similar, Islam shall rule and the world will know true peace when the world embraces Islam.

you guys are drinking some good quality bhang. :respect:

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To answer your question, puran Brahmgiani Baba Harnam Singh Buchon Kala Wale have already taken janam in a certain country along with many other mahaan Gursikhs such as Bhai Uday Singh Jee, and are doing their kamaii. They will be part of the fauj lead by Sant Jarnail Singh and four other singhs. Sant Jee has a duty by Dasmey Patshaah to do fateh over the laal kila before giving shahaadat. After that Khalsa Raaj will be lead by panj kamaii wale singhs. Nindaks and cynics can doubt all they want but time will soon show what the truth is.

okay.....can I ask a simple question, please don't be offended.

who told you this? or How do you know this?

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I've heard Muslims say something similar, Islam shall rule and the world will know true peace when the world embraces Islam.

you guys are drinking some good quality bhang. :respect:

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Are you even a Sikh?

This is part of our Ardas.

It isn't a call for world domination. It isn't a call for jihad or mass conversions. It's saying that Khalsa will rule when no one will be opposed to our teachings and what we stand for. We have been persecuted throughout our history. Why is that an alien concept for you?

Keep hitting yourself, maybe you will have some sense knocked into you.

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Who says that khalsa will rule the world ?

Is that what it is all about, about who dominates and rules ?

Some of you are going away from the messages in gurbani.

If we can get the 'khalsa' to rule within each of us, then the whole battle is already won isn't it ?

Start the real journey 'within' and then we can find our true selves and the true Lord.(start with simran)

When the two of us can be in pure unison and harmony, the khalsa will already be ruling within us.

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Are you even a Sikh?

This is part of our Ardas.

It isn't a call for world domination. It isn't a call for jihad or mass conversions. It's saying that Khalsa will rule when no one will be opposed to our teachings and what we stand for. We have been persecuted throughout our history. Why is that an alien concept for you?

Keep hitting yourself, maybe you will have some sense knocked into you.

Who said anything about world domination, jihad or mass conversions? Although you did say "Khalsa Raj will come when the world embraces Sikhi".

I know what the dohra in the ardas means, although I believe its not to be taken literally as in its not about this physical world. I believe it has more of a sprirtual meaning.

:stupidme: Only Siri Sat Guru Granth Sahib Ji can knock sense into me.........thank you for your lovely comments....please continue and finish your bhang..

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Who said anything about world domination, jihad or mass conversions? Although you did say "Khalsa Raj will come when the world embraces Sikhi".

I know what the dohra in the ardas means, although I believe its not to be taken literally as in its not about this physical world. I believe it has more of a sprirtual meaning.

:stupidme: Only Siri Sat Guru Granth Sahib Ji can knock sense into me.........thank you for your lovely comments....please continue and finish your bhang..

Please read karninama,sau sakhi,Sri dasam granth(Kalki avatar)etc.

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