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3 points I would like to make

  1. The same police never so much as slapped angry hindu mobs on the wrist when they were burning sikhs alive [84] or muslims [2002]
  2. Police could have used Tear gas / rubber bullets or fired gun shots in the air to disperse the singhs.
  3. India spends millions on state of the art weapons, can't it spend like one million dolloars to train its riot police ?

The real reason is Badal/BJP/Shiv Saina wanted to send a message all across punjab (and maybe all over India) - that if you gather and raise voice, you will be brutally and ruthlessly crushed.

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India's emergence as an economic power and a contender on the world stage is a very, very big and worrying problem for Sikhs.

Kalyugi -- I trade international markets - so i kind of know how strong india really is at present -- your statement is a common belief given out to us in the media. The reality is different - india and all asian econmies willbe crashing soon my friend without a doubt. They are trying to create their own world bank - they haven't a hope in hell. They will come crawling to the west in the future. Alpha male is America and always wil be - these piss poor asian countries have a mindset of a child as Once Sant maskeen jee said - they will stay where they are in that process. What we need to do is become financily so strong so we can buy PUNJAB. - but that is light years away.

and to give u a taster - marriot hotel opened up in chandigarh two years ago - and now it is closing - no more customers - will be monument for us to see when we visit.

also check

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/9173668/Why-a-Brics-built-bank-to-rival-the-IMF-is-doomed-to-fail.html

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Kalyugi -- I trade international markets - so i kind of know how strong india really is at present -- your statement is a common belief given out to us in the media. The reality is different - india and all asian econmies willbe crashing soon my friend without a doubt. They are trying to create their own world bank - they haven't a hope in hell. They will come crawling to the west in the future. Alpha male is America and always wil be - these piss poor asian countries have a mindset of a child as Once Sant maskeen jee said - they will stay where they are in that process. What we need to do is become financily so strong so we can buy PUNJAB. - but that is light years away. and to give u a taster - marriot hotel opened up in chandigarh two years ago - and now it is closing - no more customers - will be monument for us to see when we visit. also check http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/9173668/Why-a-Brics-built-bank-to-rival-the-IMF-is-doomed-to-fail.html

Sorry to say this .. but you are as racist as those shiv sainiks.

It is this very view that exists amongst certain section of Sikh community that is leading to their present turmoil. For example, this very attitude that a certain section spouts that the real players are the gorey, and rest are bystanders is the byproduct of the century odd of gora racism that the colonials had to endure.

In the fight to find justice for the sikhs, sincerely hope that you do not resort to such false crutches and straws of hope, such as gora ummrikka is the real alpha dogs and rest are zerrows.

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Kalyugi -- I trade international markets - so i kind of know how strong india really is at present -- your statement is a common belief given out to us in the media. The reality is different - india and all asian econmies willbe crashing soon my friend without a doubt. They are trying to create their own world bank - they haven't a hope in hell. They will come crawling to the west in the future. Alpha male is America and always wil be - these piss poor asian countries have a mindset of a child as Once Sant maskeen jee said - they will stay where they are in that process. What we need to do is become financily so strong so we can buy PUNJAB. - but that is light years away.

and to give u a taster - marriot hotel opened up in chandigarh two years ago - and now it is closing - no more customers - will be monument for us to see when we visit.

also check

http://www.telegraph...ed-to-fail.html

Hopefully so, brother. I get my information from the likes of The Guardian and the Times, and we're constantly told about the rise of the Chinese and Indian economies and how the West will coming begging to them in the future. I'm not a financial expert by any means so I'll obviously cede to your interpretation of the facts.

From a personal, Sikh perspective I see how brazen India have been in dealing with Sikhs and I get worried about how worse it'll get when they actually have some bustle behind the hustle! An India not afraid of international recrimination is an India to be feared. When India is working with the West for the benefit of Western purposes (trade contracts, etc) they will be beyond reproach.

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Jaspal Singh, an 18 year old Sikh Boy, was an Engineering Student and was killed by Punjab Police, while he was peacefully protesting against hanging of Bhai Balwant Singh Rajoana. In a related video on what is going on in Punjab, one can clearly see bunch of Punjab Policemen brutally beating and firing gun shots at unarmed Sikh youth who are running away to save their lives. And what is more appalling is that these Police Officers are themselves turbaned, and so at the least they look Sikh.

So that leads me to the question - Why was an 18 year old Sikh Engineering Student shot dead by State Police, while he was clearly unarmed and was peacefully protesting?

In an oppressive regime, there are broadly 2 ways in which a minority can survive. For the ease of understanding, let us classify the people belonging to the minority faith into Type 1 and Type 2 people.

Type 1 people wake up every morning, and then make an effort to prove their allegiance to the Majority led State Establishment in every possible way. A simple example would be to sit in the middle of your friends, and crack jokes at your community, and show them that even though I am a Sikh and look different, but I am a harmless, spineless creature and hence, you don’t need to fear me. In return, these people are rewarded by the State, sometimes even offered leadership positions in the Government. Case in point is Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, who has proved that he is the weakest Prime Minister that India has ever had. I can go on and on about Manmohan, but that would be digressing from the point.

Type 1 people come in all shapes and sizes. Sometimes, these people in their urgent and desperate need to appease the majority would commit the most heinous atrocities on people belonging to their own faith. The name of Prakash Singh Badal, the Punjab Chief Minister immediately comes to my mind. Other names include the so-called Butcher of Punjab, the super cop – KPS Gill and ex-Chief Minister of Punjab Beant Singh. It is not surprising that whenever Badal is in position, even peacefully protesting Sikhs are attacked and murdered ruthlessly in broad day light. This phenomenon is not new. Two Sikh boys were killed on March 29, 2012; however in the past also, 13 peacefully protesting Sikhs were shot dead in 1978, during Badal’s regime. How Badal protected the murderer of 1978 Sikh victims would be a topic of another discussion.

One of the video very clearly shows the Punjab Police chasing and attacking peacefully gathered Sikh youth. They are firing as if they are at war, at war with the Civilian Sikhs, who are all hiding and running away for their lives. On their return, these so called police officers are hugged and cheered by the Shiv Sainiks, who are shouting slogans and chanting “Har Har Mahadev”; and hence these Type 1 Sikhs feel comforted by the precious approval of Shiv Sena that they have attained by attacking and firing gun shots at unarmed protestors.

For me, the face of Type 2 Sikhs is people like Bhai Balwant Singh Rajoana, as well as the people who are protesting to show solidarity with him. Such people would rather die than accept an oppressive regime, where the mass-murderers of Sikhs are protected and rewarded, while innocent Sikh civilians are killed in a State Sponsored Genocide.

For me, the face of the Type 2 Sikhs is a young boy shown in one of the videos. This boy is clearly unarmed, but he is not even running away or hiding for protection, when the policemen attack him. He is just standing their quietly and taking pride in being beaten brutally by the Police Officers because he does not expect anything else but gross injustice from the Indian Justice System.

These Type 2 Sikhs are not irrational or stupid; instead they just want to live with their head held high. They demand justice. They want to see the perpetrators of 1984 genocide convicted and punished. They want to see the people who killed thousands of innocents in Punjab during 1990’s through fake encounters and illegal abductions being punished; and until that happen there cannot be any sustainable peace.

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