"uk Panjabi Model, Pak Bf & Drugs!"

[GooDandEvil]

Try and read the message that lies within the message JSinghz. My point, in answer to another's point about what he saw as 'muslim tactics' to trap Sikh girls, was that the big wide world would not read what he said and think ; "my god.....these muslim men are evil". They would read his list and think ; "my god.....Sikh girls must be incredibly thick". So you see, I'm nt saying Sikh girls are stupid. Why would I ? My mother and sisters are sikh girls. The point I was making was that every minute of every day in every city in every country on earth.....you will find males trying to pull females, with lies and tricks etc. The mission is not to convert in the name of religion. The motive is to bed. These 'lists' of tactics used by muslim men only show them to be like all the other 'playerz' the world over. When other people read the lists, it doesn't make them look extraordinarly bad. It just makes the victims that fall prey to these obvious tricks look quite simple.

Thats fair enough but I have seen both side of the coin my friend, girls who are supposed to be into sikhi get trapped in their schemes including amritdhari girls, up and down the UK conversions that you have not heard about, and if you think black magic is nothing major then you don't know what the hell your on about, it can destroy people's lives as it has done to many sikh people.

If you think the only motive is to bed then you are seriously mistaken, there are many motives. Unless you know people who have been personally affected by their tactics you will not understand.

[Hazoor]

It seems this kind of comment is also one we've heard on numerous occasions as well. One of the reasons I keep well away from topics such as these as one side always take offence no matter how even-handed a person attempts to be.

In this particular situation, men's intelligence and perception is not in question. When a topic arises when it will be in question, I'll be the first to highlight the shortcomings in our brothers.

Yes the topic today is a Sikh girl and Muslim man but we also hear of mixed religion relations/weddings where the man is a Sikh and how our own youngsters are in relationships (including Amritdhari's) where they feel they can't live without each other and feel the pressure of the panj chorr.

There have been numerous topics about how girls are treated differently to boys and so if Mr Ali, Mr Jones, Mr Patel or Mr Singh gives them time, treats them well they may well to be affected.

This isn't simply about young Sikh girls and how they can't control themselves, it's about much more than that. This is becoming more apparent as the number of people being accused, charged and convicted of abusing young girls is increasing, and the young girls being refered to in the press right now aren't Sikh.

[singher23]

As someone who doesn't live in the UK or Canada, and never have having heard about this "grooming" problem with Sikh Girls I will offer an outsiders perspective.

Judging strictly from these stories that I have heard on here, I would have to agree with Kaljugi and West London Singh. I wouldn't call girls who get caught up in this retarded, just lacking common sense and yes, as Kaljugi said, they seem pretty hungry for You-know-what. Most people would have the sense to not, first of all, get involved with men who are 10,15,20 years older than them, and second of all, leave when they are getting taken advantage of. Sad thing going on here.