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Baba ji, now you have changed your tone from the physical world to the spiritual world. We can discuss the spiritual hunting life of a Khalsa in a different thread. This thread is ONLY for discussing the physical "hunting" the Guru's did. Please stick to the topic.

secondly, if every sikh starts practicing, I don't think their will be any animals left............which is obviously the end of a spieces.........and if we still say that this is correct and how would our coming genrations practice coz there will be no animals available for practicing?????

Just came back from spiritual world with this information I thought I should share it with all. Bold part is for consideration. :biggrin2:

About Guru Hargobind Sahib hunting.

Bhai Gurdass Vaar 26, Pauri 24 of 35

ਧਰਮਸਾਲ ਕਰਿ ਬਹੀਦਾ ਇਕਤ ਥਾਉਂ ਨ ਟਿਕੈ ਟਿਕਾਇਆ।

Dharamasaal Kari Baheedaa Ik Daaoun N Tikai Tikaaiaa.

The earlier Gurus considered that to give instructions and to preach to the people, one has to sit at one place known as dharamshala, but this Guru (Hargobind) does riot stick to one place.

ਪਾਤਿਸਾਹ ਘਰਿ ਆਵਦੇ ਗੜਿ ਚੜਿਆ ਪਾਤਿਸਾਹ ਚੜਾਇਆ।

Paatisaah Ghari Aavaday Garhi Charhiaa Paatisaah Charhaaiaa.

Earlier emperors would visit the house of the Guru, but this Guru has been interned by the king in a fort.

 

ਉਮਤਿ ਮਹਲੁ ਨ ਪਾਵਦੀ ਨਠਾ ਫਿਰੈ ਨ ਡਰੈ ਡਰਾਇਆ।

Oumati Mahalu N Paavadee Natdaa Dhirai N Darai Daraaiaa.

The sarigat coming to have his glimpse cannot find him in the palace (because generally he is not available). Neither he is scared of anybody nor does he scare any one yet he is always on the move.

ਮੰਜੀ ਬਹਿ ਸੰਤੋਖਦਾ ਕੁਤੇ ਰਖਿ ਸਿਕਾਰੁ ਖਿਲਾਇਆ।

Manjee Bahi Santokhadaa Koutay Rakhi Sikaaru Khilaaiaa.

Earlier Gurus sitting on the seat instructed people to be content but this Guru rears dogs and goes out for hunting

ਬਾਣੀ ਕਰਿ ਸੁਣਿ ਗਾਂਵਦਾ ਕਥੈ ਨ ਸੁਣੈ ਨ ਗਾਵਿ ਸੁਣਾਇਆ।

Baanee Kari Souni Gaanvadaa Kadai N Sounai N Gaavi Sounaaiaa.

The Gurus used to listen to Gurbani but this Guru neither recites nor (regularly) listens to hymn-singing.

ਸੇਵਕ ਪਾਸ ਨ ਰਖੀਅਨਿ ਦੋਖੀ ਦੁਸਟ ਆਗੂ ਮੁਹਿ ਲਾਇਆ।

Sayvak Paas N Rakheeani Dokhee Dousat Aagoo Muhi Laaiaa.

He does not keep his follower servants with him and rather maintains nearness with the wicked and the envious ones (Guru had kept Painde Khan nearby).

ਸਚੁ ਨ ਲੁਕੈ ਲੁਕਾਇਆ ਚਰਣ ਕਵਲ ਸਿਖ ਭਵਰ ਲੁਭਾਇਆ।

Sachu N Loukai Loukaaiaa Charan Kaval Sikh Bhavar Loubhaaiaa.

But the truth is never concealed and that is why on the lotus feet of the Guru, the mind of 'Sikhs hover like a greedy black-bee.

ਅਜਰੁ ਜਰੈ ਨ ਆਪੁ ਜਣਾਇਆ ॥੨੪॥

Ajaru Jarai N Aapu Janaaiaa 24

Guru Hargobding has borne the unbearable and he has not made himself manifest.

Just relax members.

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ਮੰਜੀ ਬਹਿ ਸੰਤੋਖਦਾ ਕੁਤੇ ਰਖਿ ਸਿਕਾਰੁ ਖਿਲਾਇਆ।

Manjee Bahi Santokhadaa Koutay Rakhi Sikaaru Khilaaiaa.

Earlier Gurus sitting on the seat instructed people to be content but this Guru rears dogs and goes out for hunting

waheguru ji.....we never denied that part.....this is what has been discussed in the thread so far that guru ji did hunting but for the salvation of souls......

Bold part is for consideration :)

You didn't answer the "end of spieces" part.......but I don't need it now coz you don't have it :)...........anyways I am done with this....Guru bhalla kare

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waheguru ji.....we never denied that part.....this is what has been discussed in the thread so far that guru ji did hunting but for the salvation of souls......

Bold part is for consideration :)

You didn't answer the "end of spieces" part.......but I don't need it now coz you don't have it :)...........anyways I am done with this....Guru bhalla kare

End of spieces is your part(If sikhs did hunting in punjab, how many spieces have finished, mughals and turks did so much sikh hunting we are still there) and mine is traning . We are finished but thought bhai Gurdass Vaar should make it more clear. Just relax. We are finished with this topic.

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Guru Ji engaged in hunting because they wanted to show the Muslim raj that they were defiant of there orders that nobody should engage in hunting. Guru Sahib wanted to show that freedom of action is right and that oppression is wrong. Satguru Gobind Sahib Jee wanted to show that he who is honest and truthful has the power to bring down great tyrants.

Guru Sahib was the King of the Khalsa Panth and to prove it they lived like a King with expensive Gifts Armies Palanquins etc etc Kings also go hunting as it is a sign of their power and prestige.

There was no meat eating basis for this infact those blessed with the piercing arrow fired by Guru ji would have indeed met salvation

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Guru Ji engaged in hunting because they wanted to show the Muslim raj that they were defiant of there orders that nobody should engage in hunting.

Guru Sahib was the King of the Khalsa Panth and to prove it they lived like a King with expensive Gifts armies Palanquins etc

There was no meat eating basis for this infact those blessed with the piercing arrow fired by Guru ji would have indeed met salvation

You are bang right and I will add training part to it. :biggrin2:

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