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milk is given respect because when a child is born its main form of sustenance is the mothers natural milk,

this is why milk is seen as pavitar and to clean darbar sahib with milk is giving it the highest form of respect, that a king of the universes throne room deserves such respect, it is paying respect to Guru Granth Sahib Ji

which these people also view as Idol Worship...... they should read Bhai Randhir singhs jis book

http://www.bsrstrust.org/store/english/is-worshiping-sri-guru-granth-sahib-ji-akin-to-idol-worship/

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Guru sahib was against ritualistic show of respect ......

I completely agree with Chuck Singh Norris that milk should go to starving children who need and can benefit much more form it rather than the marble -

Parupkaar or altruism is placed very highly in Gurbani

"Mithya tan nahi parupkaari"

Any resource that can improve lots of humans should be used for that purpose before for any religious ritual.

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Looking from sikhi humanitarian perspective- We do miss an chance to serve humanity when hundreds of litres of milk goes in drain every day when they clean the floor in darbar sahib - i be the last one to criticize sane puratan maryada but this one i have to say, they should use balance approach when it comes using milk- we should have fine balance between devotion shown towards sargun saroop of vahiguroo- dhan dhan dhan sri guru granth sahib ji and serve humanity as guru maharaj nirgun saroop also resides in humanity as sargun saroop..there are plenty of sakhi of guru maharaj giving tarnas to sikhs for wrapping their head around dogmatic notions so much so that sikhs not being able to see tat gyan essence- same jot of vahiguroo in everyone.!!!.

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Give it a rest, if any of you had partaken in the seva, it's only a little bit of milk that is initially used. About 5 litres or less and that is mixed with water. After that the Amrit from samovar is used.

Thanks for letting us know bro..i didn't know...in that case, they are right striking a right balance.

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I think generally speaking danger arises when perception of individual surrounding devotional sargun ritual start having dogmatic notions or wrapping their head around it, so much so to the point that perception itself becomes road block in sikhi and so much so that its ultimately on clash course with gurmat humanitarian aspect in sikh...thats where danger lies..!!

Again nothing wrong with act of washing of darbar sahib with milk itself from devotional perspective , danger lies at the perception of individual for not having right balance not the act itself....this is where missionaries are dead wrong, they have start doing khandan mandan of very helpful/devotional/paramparic/symbol acts/rituals itself rather than exploring the perception of individuals surrounding the rituals.

No ritual or act needs to be changed, only people perceiving or turning devotional rituals/act into dogmatic notions/dogma road blocks in their head, need to be addressed as caution politely in the parchar thats all.

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I have to agree what's the use of wasting milk to clean floors ? It's purely a ritual milk does not possess any cleaning or disinfectant properties. Hence there is no benefit or purpose to it's usage for cleaning floors. Use the proper cleaning products for the job.

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Can anyone inform us of when we first started using milk? Was it from Guru Jis time? Recent?

One thing of note though is that I don't think any Sants spoke out against it.

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Can anyone inform us of when we first started using milk? Was it from Guru Jis time? Recent?

One thing of note though is that I don't think any Sants spoke out against it.

This is the kind of productive discussion we should be having.

Personal opinions don't ever really matter on traditions like washing Sri Harmandir Saheb's marble floor with katchi lassi.

We could even start arguing that the gold used at Sri Harmandir sahib should've been used as donations to poor instead.

These things don't have an end, do they?

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We could even start arguing that the gold used at Sri Harmandir sahib should've been used as donations to poor instead.

These things don't have an end, do they?

There was no gold ever at Harmandir Sahib during Guru's times. it was installed by Maharaja Ranjit Singh's whose many actions like having multiple ranis were out of line with gurmat.

Gold is not shown any importance in Gurbani -

"Jo nar dukh main dukh nahi maane , Kaanchan maati jane"

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