Want To Listen Gurbani - Give Money

[NewtoSikhism]

Nowadays raagis have price tag on them - Give this much amount to raagi if you want to call them

Moreover for marriage they ask for money from both the families you need to pay for lava fere.

Hun te Gurbani v wickdi aa.... I must say bad "very bad" .

[uks1ngh]

Don't parcharks (ragis, kirtanis etc.) have families to look after? Do they want to be beggars?

Why don't you become a kirtani, and do the kirtan for free? Go on...

I'm pretty sure, it's your kind of people who will pay £10k to a vulgar singer, but will cry giving £10 a kirtani.

[uks1ngh]

It's so easy to talk... But as harder to do.

Why don't you actually become the "change" and do kirtan for free?

[NewtoSikhism]

I do kirtan for free for sangat who call me....

FYI- raagis and sewadaars are given home food and salary to serve Gurudwara

Apart from this they get chadawa like people who donate to them.

Get some information some of the raagis ask for so much money that poor people can't even to think to call them at home or in local Gurdwaras

[TheFancyBanana]

I do kirtan for free for sangat who call me....

FYI- raagis and sewadaars are given home food and salary to serve Gurudwara

Apart from this they get chadawa like people who donate to them.

Get some information some of the raagis ask for so much money that poor people can't even to think to call them at home or in local Gurdwaras

Lol. Yeah their family doesn't stay in the gurdwara. Besides most gurdware take a percentage from the money they get. My dads best friend from his childhood is a raagi. He has a family to support in India, with no other way of making money.

And this thing about affording raagis? What? When you have an akhand path at home the gurdwara will send some over. I think most people who do an akhand path can also afford to give a few £s to a raagi. What else can these people do? At least they are bothering to do parchaar.

I feel sorry for the dhaddis. At some gurdware they put them right at the end, so most sangat has left. These guys probably make like £20 in a day, this £20 is split between 3/4 people. If a Punjabi singer can get a few thousand pounds for attending a wedding/party, why can't a raagi get paid to sing at a wedding? Whats wrong about that?

[NewtoSikhism]

Lol. Yeah their family doesn't stay in the gurdwara. Besides most gurdware take a percentage from the money they get. My dads best friend from his childhood is a raagi. He has a family to support in India, with no other way of making money.

And this thing about affording raagis? What? When you have an akhand path at home the gurdwara will send some over. I think most people who do an akhand path can also afford to give a few £s to a raagi. What else can these people do? At least they are bothering to do parchaar.

I feel sorry for the dhaddis. At some gurdware they put them right at the end, so most sangat has left. These guys probably make like £20 in a day, this £20 is split between 3/4 people. If a Punjabi singer can get a few thousand pounds for attending a wedding/party, why can't a raagi get paid to sing at a wedding? Whats wrong about that?

Ya you are correct I forgot that the amount is distributed among 3/4.

[Jonny101]

Kirtanis have families to support in India. And it's not like they are well off or rich. They don't make that much money. I personally don't mind seeing our kirtanis brothers making money.

[sat]

its about time we stopped giving maya to the fool singers and gave more to our ragis and parcharks who will help our future generations to follow the true path of our Guru SGGS ji Maharaj. :respect: , and stop our kids becoming addicts etc

[MKaur89]

I do kirtan for free for sangat who call me....

FYI- raagis and sewadaars are given home food and salary to serve Gurudwara

Apart from this they get chadawa like people who donate to them.

Get some information some of the raagis ask for so much money that poor people can't even to think to call them at home or in local Gurdwaras

A lot of people forget that although gianis/raagis get paid a salary, it's usually very low, even when you take into account their free accommodation and food. Most of them have families in India and they are no doubt sending money back home and paying their children's school fees etc so I doubt their salaries stretch very far.

Also, they have to put up with a lot of rubbish from the gurdwara committees and a lot of us wouldn't do that. So all in all, I don't see any issue in sangat giving them donations, it's not like they are going around begging for it. Nobody is being forced to give them anything, people give money because they want to. It's very easy to say that people should do all kinds of seva in gurdwaras for free and there should be no paid employees in the gurdwara and we shouldn't bring gianis/raagis over from India, but hardly any youth from UK/USA/Canada would be willing to quit education or their jobs and do full-time seva at their local gurdwaras, as most of the time their parents are pushing them to study more and work hard to get a job with a high salary.

It's sad that gianis/raagis do seva in gurughar day and night, and yet they are looked down upon and disrespected by most of the sangat and treated like something on the bottom of someone's shoe by the committee members, yet it should really be the other way around. Hardly any parents in UK/USA/Canada would be happy if their kids turned around and said I want to be a giani/raagi, but instead our parents are happy to encourage us to spend our whole lives chasing high salaries and maya in endless circles as we can never be satisfied with what we have and will always want more. But then when we come to the gurdwara and open our wallets to find some change for the golak or raagis on stage, we always hunt for the lowest-value coin. A lot of us need to re-evaluate our priorities and attitudes, otherwise our religion and society cannot flourish how we want it to.

[NewtoSikhism]

its about time we stopped giving maya to the fool singers and gave more to our ragis and parcharks who will help our future generations to follow the true path of our Guru SGGS ji Maharaj. :respect: , and stop our kids becoming addicts etc

Insha Allah..!! true :respect: