What Is Your Sewa?

[chatanga]

UK = Paji, this is where I respectfully disagree with you. I 100% agree that Gurdware in Orissa where Bhai Himmat Singh Ji of the Panj Pyaaray came from need to preserved and we need to increase parchaar to highlight the bravest person GurSikh to arise from Orissa and provide Dhan Dhan Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj in Odisha bhasha ... but preserving heritage in Afghanistan and Pakistan is a waste of limited resouces. Historic Gurdware and Gurdware near to Punjabi Christian and Sindhi non-Muslims should be prioritised (but without any unnecassary expenditure on glitzing the exterior). Sikhi comes from within and vishwaas in Dhan Dhan Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj and Sikhi is important than heritage per se.

Well Bhaji, concentrate on the things you agree with, and keep your nose out of the things you dont agree with. simples.

UK = Paji let all the goray and rich Arabs buy those artefacts. Let's focus the money we'd waste buying those artefacts up into eradicating drugs, eradicating female foeticide, eradicating artificial divisions within the Panth, increasing health+education levels in East Punjab as well as increasing seva and parchaar in areas of India and Africa where the need is greatest and where future Sikhs are most likely to realistically arise.

see above. spend where you think it will benefit the panth, and let others spend where they think will benefit.

[UKLondonSikh]

Well Bhaji, concentrate on the things you agree with, and keep your nose out of the things you dont agree with. simples.

see above. spend where you think it will benefit the panth, and let others spend where they think will benefit.

UK = 100% agree with u Paji. Yep if some would like to focus on preserving the bricks and mortar on Maharajah Ranjit Singh's samadhi ... whilst others believe that drugs, illiteracy and poverty in East Punjab are more important priorities ... there is room for both strands of opinion within the Sikh Panth ... *DELETED* ... our Qaum can and will be unstoppable. VJKK VJKF

[chatanga]

I'm glad you've seen the sense in it.

Choose something you feel strongly about and work on it.

[Raaj.Karega.Khalsa]

Love this thread! Very refreshing attitude! Thank you Bhaji!

[chatanga]

wanted to bring these before the sangat again:

Just an idea I had, and I hope these words can express it, but when I look around at younger Sikhs today, those who follow Sikhi, to any extent seem to be into everything and anything Sikhi.

I was thinking about this, cos I have been like this in my younger days, but now have realised that there are so many areas to work in, for the betterment of the panth, that it is impossible to do every one. Rather than be a jack of all trades and expert in none, i made a decision to look at what things in the panth can be improved and do sewa specifically for that.

So i made a decision to work on 2 main projects only for the future, whilst supporting any others i can.

Since I have been doing it, i have felt that there has actually been progress, and would like to impress on the Sikhs here that maybe there could be an issue(s) that they feel strongly about and devote themselves to that practically and prioritise that.

Here are some areas in which attention is required, please feel free to add others:

Sewa in your local gurdwara, ie specifically,langar, education, community awareness

Gurmat Sangeet

Shastarvidiya

SIkh heritage around the world, esp Pakistan, and certain states in india

SIkh manuscripts, which are rotting/hidden away, which could be brought before world-wide sangat, and translationed into english

Human Rights

Fundraising

Charity work

Sikh political issues in the western world on community or national scale

Important annual events in the Sikh calendar

Sikhi camps

Forgotten traditions within the panth

International world days (examples of this are world literacy day, sept, and world book day in march)

With some of these people who are reluctant to do sewa for the panth, because of their personal commitment to their Sikhi, (meaning they may not be keeping kes etc) there are still areas in which they can still provide sterling assistance to the Panth.

Sikh history can be divided into 5 periods:

1.The Guru Period 1469-1708

2.The Dal Khalsa 1708-1799

3.The Sikh Raaj 1800-1849

4.The British Raaj 1849-1947

5. Partition and after 1947-present

Of course these 5 main periods will still have further specific divisions in them.

Brothers and sisters, why not take a particular period, and focus on that for personal interest and specialise in that time period?

Or take a particular event, person, from these periods and learn all about that, from every source available and specialise in that?

That is not to say, neglect the others, but to become experts on particular strands of Sikh history.

Then why not in some future time, share that expertise with the wider Sikh community?

Take the example of Gurinder Singh Mann, who has devoted himself to learning about Dasam Granth and other less well known scriptures. Now after years of intense research on specific subjects, he is doing an amazing job sharing his research with the world.

YOU can be the next Gurinder Singh Mann.

Why not look at one of the Guru's, and make a in depth research into his life? You have 10 glorious examples to choose from.

[chatanga]

wanted to bring these before the cyber sangat again. It has been 1 1/2 years since the original post. What has changed amongst yourselves regarding this?

chatanga, on 06 Sept 2013 - 09:50, said:

Just an idea I had, and I hope these words can express it, but when I look around at younger Sikhs today, those who follow Sikhi, to any extent seem to be into everything and anything Sikhi.

I was thinking about this, cos I have been like this in my younger days, but now have realised that there are so many areas to work in, for the betterment of the panth, that it is impossible to do every one. Rather than be a jack of all trades and expert in none, i made a decision to look at what things in the panth can be improved and do sewa specifically for that.

So i made a decision to work on 2 main projects only for the future, whilst supporting any others i can.

Since I have been doing it, i have felt that there has actually been progress, and would like to impress on the Sikhs here that maybe there could be an issue(s) that they feel strongly about and devote themselves to that practically and prioritise that.

Here are some areas in which attention is required, please feel free to add others:

Sewa in your local gurdwara, ie specifically,langar, education, community awareness

Gurmat Sangeet

Shastarvidiya

SIkh heritage around the world, esp Pakistan, and certain states in india

SIkh manuscripts, which are rotting/hidden away, which could be brought before world-wide sangat, and translationed into english

Human Rights

Fundraising

Charity work

Sikh political issues in the western world on community or national scale

Important annual events in the Sikh calendar

Sikhi camps

Forgotten traditions within the panth

International world days (examples of this are world literacy day, sept, and world book day in march)

With some of these people who are reluctant to do sewa for the panth, because of their personal commitment to their Sikhi, (meaning they may not be keeping kes etc) there are still areas in which they can still provide sterling assistance to the Panth.

chatanga, on 07 Sept 2013 - 11:26, said:

Sikh history can be divided into 5 periods:

1.The Guru Period 1469-1708

2.The Dal Khalsa 1708-1799

3.The Sikh Raaj 1800-1849

4.The British Raaj 1849-1947

5. Partition and after 1947-present

Of course these 5 main periods will still have further specific divisions in them.

Brothers and sisters, why not take a particular period, and focus on that for personal interest and specialise in that time period?

Or take a particular event, person, from these periods and learn all about that, from every source available and specialise in that?

That is not to say, neglect the others, but to become experts on particular strands of Sikh history.

Then why not in some future time, share that expertise with the wider Sikh community?

Take the example of Gurinder Singh Mann, who has devoted himself to learning about Dasam Granth and other less well known scriptures. Now after years of intense research on specific subjects, he is doing an amazing job sharing his research with the world.

YOU can be the next Gurinder Singh Mann.

chatanga, on 08 Sept 2013 - 13:52, said:

Why not look at one of the Guru's, and make a in depth research into his life? You have 10 glorious examples to choose from.

[chatanga]

Just an idea I had, and I hope these words can express it, but when I look around at younger Sikhs today, those who follow Sikhi, to any extent seem to be into everything and anything Sikhi.

I was thinking about this, cos I have been like this in my younger days, but now have realised that there are so many areas to work in, for the betterment of the panth, that it is impossible to do every one. Rather than be a jack of all trades and expert in none, i made a decision to look at what things in the panth can be improved and do sewa specifically for that.

So i made a decision to work on 2 main projects only for the future, whilst supporting any others i can.

Since I have been doing it, i have felt that there has actually been progress, and would like to impress on the Sikhs here that maybe there could be an issue(s) that they feel strongly about and devote themselves to that practically and prioritise that.

Here are some areas in which attention is required, please feel free to add others:

Sewa in your local gurdwara, ie specifically,langar, education, community awareness

Gurmat Sangeet

Shastarvidiya

SIkh heritage around the world, esp Pakistan, and certain states in india

SIkh manuscripts, which are rotting/hidden away, which could be brought before world-wide sangat, and translationed into english

Human Rights

Fundraising

Charity work

Sikh political issues in the western world on community or national scale

Important annual events in the Sikh calendar

Sikhi camps

Forgotten traditions within the panth

International world days (examples of this are world literacy day, sept, and world book day in march)

With some of these people who are reluctant to do sewa for the panth, because of their personal commitment to their Sikhi, (meaning they may not be keeping kes etc) there are still areas in which they can still provide sterling assistance to the Panth.

Bump

[Singh559]

It's a good initiative but like anything where do you suggest we start? First few steps hardest.

[chatanga]

Just an idea I had, and I hope these words can express it, but when I look around at younger Sikhs today, those who follow Sikhi, to any extent seem to be into everything and anything Sikhi.

I was thinking about this, cos I have been like this in my younger days, but now have realised that there are so many areas to work in, for the betterment of the panth, that it is impossible to do every one. Rather than be a jack of all trades and expert in none, i made a decision to look at what things in the panth can be improved and do sewa specifically for that.

So i made a decision to work on 2 main projects only for the future, whilst supporting any others i can.

Since I have been doing it, i have felt that there has actually been progress, and would like to impress on the Sikhs here that maybe there could be an issue(s) that they feel strongly about and devote themselves to that practically and prioritise that.

Here are some areas in which attention is required, please feel free to add others:

Sewa in your local gurdwara, ie specifically,langar, education, community awareness

Gurmat Sangeet

Shastarvidiya

SIkh heritage around the world, esp Pakistan, and certain states in india

SIkh manuscripts, which are rotting/hidden away, which could be brought before world-wide sangat, and translationed into english

Human Rights

Fundraising

Charity work

Sikh political issues in the western world on community or national scale

Important annual events in the Sikh calendar

Sikhi camps

Forgotten traditions within the panth

International world days (examples of this are world literacy day, sept, and world book day in march)

With some of these people who are reluctant to do sewa for the panth, because of their personal commitment to their Sikhi, (meaning they may not be keeping kes etc) there are still areas in which they can still provide sterling assistance to the Panth.

Sikh history can be divided into 5 periods:

1.The Guru Period 1469-1708

2.The Dal Khalsa 1708-1799

3.The Sikh Raaj 1800-1849

4.The British Raaj 1849-1947

5. Partition and after 1947-present

Of course these 5 main periods will still have further specific divisions in them.

Brothers and sisters, why not take a particular period, and focus on that for personal interest and specialise in that time period?

Or take a particular event, person, from these periods and learn all about that, from every source available and specialise in that?

That is not to say, neglect the others, but to become experts on particular strands of Sikh history.

Then why not in some future time, share that expertise with the wider Sikh community?

Take the example of Gurinder Singh Mann, who has devoted himself to learning about Dasam Granth and other less well known scriptures. Now after years of intense research on specific subjects, he is doing an amazing job sharing his research with the world.

YOU can be the next Gurinder Singh Mann.

Why not look at one of the Guru's, and make a in depth research into his life? You have 10 glorious examples to choose from.

BUMP.

It's a good initiative but like anything where do you suggest we start? First few steps hardest.

Choose any area of Gurmat that you feel you can specialise in, and take it from there.

[SikhKosh]

You constantly run away from seva, Chatanga. Remember you ran away when there were talks about financing parchaar projects in Pak or getting a historical Granth translated?

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