Is Turban Going To Vanish With Dieing Status Of Kaur

[Guru_Da_Chella]

The problem is, people from the sikh community, both in the west and in India, make negative comments towards turban wearers. Comments that are either hateful, discriminatory, or take the mickey out of turbans. This happens in many families.

Now, let's say when goray in UK discriminate against the turbans, then we protest (like in the 70s/80s), or take them to court for racism (Racially aggravated crime), or sue an employer (turban discrimination) etc

But what heck is our community doing when so many members of the sikh community are doing similar things???

I mean, the only time I hear anything is when people complain about girls not liking turbanned sikhs, and then sometimes see some topic on radio and tv, or increasingly more often on this forum!

But look, it's not just sikh girls, it's sikh boys that are also causing the hatred, and I know this happens in India too as I know of a few incidences!

But do we protest? NO! Do we complain? Doesn't seem like it! Are we doing anything?

Doing sikhi prachar is good and all, but look, we need more awareness about, and how to stand up against, the bullying and hatred within our own community against turbans!

From observations, I think the other thing is the sub communities in the sikh community. Some sub-communities, such as Afghan and Bhatra sikhs, have a lot of respect for turbans, so they don't experience first hand any discrimination against turban from other sikhs. But I come from the jatt sikh community, and turban respect can drop low in this community. I also see some of this discrimination from other indian sikh communities that are related to mine, such as Indian tarkhan sikhs as opposed to East Africa sikhs.

- So I think this is an issue we need to deal with as well, a slow poison rapidly being spread against the turban by ignorant people in the sikh community!

[SSD]

The problem is, people from the sikh community, both in the west and in India, make negative comments towards turban wearers. Comments that are either hateful, discriminatory, or take the mickey out of turbans. This happens in many families.

Now, let's say when goray in UK discriminate against the turbans, then we protest (like in the 70s/80s), or take them to court for racism (Racially aggravated crime), or sue an employer (turban discrimination) etc

But what heck is our community doing when so many members of the sikh community are doing similar things???

I mean, the only time I hear anything is when people complain about girls not liking turbanned sikhs, and then sometimes see some topic on radio and tv, or increasingly more often on this forum!

But look, it's not just sikh girls, it's sikh boys that are also causing the hatred, and I know this happens in India too as I know of a few incidences!

But do we protest? NO! Do we complain? Doesn't seem like it! Are we doing anything?

Doing sikhi prachar is good and all, but look, we need more awareness about, and how to stand up against, the bullying and hatred within our own community against turbans!

From observations, I think the other thing is the sub communities in the sikh community. Some sub-communities, such as Afghan and Bhatra sikhs, have a lot of respect for turbans, so they don't experience first hand any discrimination against turban from other sikhs. But I come from the jatt sikh community, and turban respect can drop low in this community. I also see some of this discrimination from other indian sikh communities that are related to mine, such as Indian tarkhan sikhs as opposed to East Africa sikhs.

- So I think this is an issue we need to deal with as well, a slow poison rapidly being spread against the turban by ignorant people in the sikh community!

Very True, the problem isn't really in Sikhs(in my view a Sikh is someone who takes Amrit), the problem is Punjabi culture and even the by-products of waxing because it is wrong and this issue will remain until people realize a Sikh isn't by birth it's by actions and deeds.

[jkvlondon]

Very True, the problem isn't really in Sikhs(in my view a Sikh is someone who takes Amrit), the problem is Punjabi culture and even the by-products of waxing because it is wrong and this issue will remain until people realize a Sikh isn't by birth it's by actions and deeds.

It is tragic but our 'SIkhs' pride themselves on being IGNORANT of just what sikhi was, is and should be ...they think by copying the Godless, Faithless cynics of this world they are being MODERN ...

Dear people think about it you are aping people who think nothing of watching the pain of others and passing by, they have no compassion or empathy and that is the basic requirement for being part of the Human race , even the apes and monkeys being lower beasts have more compassion and relations with those around them than these modern creatures.

Do you need to be less than human to be accepted in this world ? do you need to be less than a beast?

If so , doesn't that tell you that there is something majorly wrong going on in the world ?

Become a fully functioning human , become a Khalsa be a part of the solution NOT a part of the problem. Encourage others to recognise what they truly are ... get them to open their eyes and their hearts.