Mixed Marriages In Gurdwara Bbc Debate

[Hammertime007]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWcJ4alyZCM

sounded more of a show to promote Multiculturalism and left wing values

[POODNA]

BBC is hell bent in distorting Sikhi and labelling Gur Sikhs as extremists. No different to Gov of India. Kaum de dushman.

[eduardo]

Well the idea of multiculturism originally was to allow each culture to thrive within its own community and out of that would come the best of each community and hence lead to good trade and new ideas so by definition multiculturism would be supportive of the Sikh way of life and allow it to flourish and bring out the best of it. The idea is a long shot because it relies on each community cooperating with the ones surrounding it and not trying to dominate, to be flexible with each other.

Left wing values are in essence to create a more equal and fairer society for all with good public services and support for the poor and down trodden.

A society with a conscience rather than just rampant capitalism and pure greed with the winner taking it all and sharing nothing to anyone else.

I would have thought multiculturism would have been popular with Sikhs because under this doctrine faith schools have been allowed to flourish, Sikh faith schools in particular.

I notice your definitions of both ideas Hammertime are a bit caustic and acidic so tell me how would define multiculturism and the left wing? I'm curious to know.

I have yet to listen to the program but will this weekend.

[eduardo]

I though it was quite a balanced discussion and the main point being if those are the rules of the faith and the Gurdwara then those are the rules. Simples.

[StarStriker]

That show was pathetic! I listened to it live that day, it was full of closet communist, liberal lefty flower power sikhs, who were jus makin up their own rules. Classic lines such as "gurdwara has 4 doors, n is open to every1 blah blah", or "guru nanak sed we r all equal blah blah".

I mean wat on earth has a gurdwara bein open to all human beings, got to do with a sikh ceremony? So we shud comprimise our religions rules, jus so ppl wont get offended? These dumb liberal atheists, shud ask themselves, if a rastafarian came into a gurdwara, n lighted up a marijuana spliff, n they say thats not allowed in a gurdwara, thn he replies "i thought this place has 4 doors meaning its open to every1 ?", wat they gonna say?

Atheists shud stick to doin idol worship of lenin n stalin, idiots. Also nice for panjabi hindus to show yet AGAIN, their true intentions, of anti sikh propaganda.

[Ranjeet01]

It does not make sense for there to be mixed marriages in Gurdwaras, because for a Sikh it makes a mockery of the Anand Karaj and of Maharaj ji.

A Gurdwara is open to all but there are rules that need to be followed and respected.

If they require a marriage or civil union there are ways to do this.

[eduardo]

Next thing that will be on the table for discussion will be gay marriages at Gurdwara's.

The argument will be that if Sikhism is such an open and tolerant religion then why is it discriminationg against gay people getting married?

I'll even bet money on it.

[Balkaar]

Atheists shud stick to doin idol worship of lenin n stalin, idiots. Also nice for panjabi hindus to show yet AGAIN, their true intentions, of anti sikh propaganda.

Lenin and Stalin aren't to atheists what Jesus or Muhammad are to Christians and Muslims. Atheist does not equal communist. No communist dictator killed in the name of atheism, only in the name of the socialism, a political ideology, not a religious one.

Agree with you on all other fronts however. Our Gurdware, our rules.

I would have thought multiculturism would have been popular with Sikhs because under this doctrine faith schools have been allowed to flourish, Sikh faith schools in particular.

Multiculturalism started off as something quite wonderful. Unfortunately, it's been perverted over the years into a sort of hyper-political correctness, which excuses or attempts to cover up even the worst transgressions of certain cultures, for instance, genital mutilation (an African/Arab phenomenon), honour killings and female infanticide (phenomena particularly rampant among PUNJABI SIKHS) or the rape of young white girls by Pakistani gangs (reported as being 'Asian' gangs by the media, implicating an entire subcontinent in the problems of a very particular group), for fear of appearing 'racist'.

Faith schools, including Sikh faith schools, are a bad idea too. Let religion have jurisdiction over temples and churches, not the education of children in a secular country. Children of all faiths should study together in the same schools.

[eduardo]

I was reading this this morning, the article pretty much sums up why a lot of white people will never speak out about cultural issues, especially within schools.

http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/9252471/the-bradford-head-teacher-who-got-it-right-on-islam-and-education/

[Balkaar]

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