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Nikki Hailey was born in sikh family and her Fufar used to be a very well known and highly respectable jatha singh from amritsar area. She 'was' sikh however she still would do much better for sikh community than other political figures.

Jindal has its own identity crisis. He does not want to think of himself as indian lol. He got the phobia that goray are superiors than other colors.

Clinton only link with sikhs via : 1. Sant Chatwal & 2. Dr. Rajwant Singh (SCORE or ecosikh). Both are indian government chapal lickers. Sant Chawla was just quoted by indian media of his highly anti-stand against sikh referendum 2020.

Trump is nothing but a joke ! The most egoist and failed person i have ever seen. First it was her mad passion about obama birther issue and then his racist standpoint against hispanic americans.

Bernie sanders is another good candidate but i don't think people are ready for him.

Jeb bush only problem is his last name lol

Rand paul - too much conservative. Totally different than his dad ron paul.

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Nah I tend to stay clear of the American Media, I know their highly biased. But based on what I have heard from more contemporary sources (my friends who are American and other newspapers etc) he's not very nice. He may speak out but the thing is he's extremely emotional, at-least thats the vibe im getting. A person who let something like a breast feed incident get to him and force him onto Twitter would most likely declare war if someone remotely criticized him.

Just my thoughts. I prefer Sanders though, he seems like an alright guy.

Kira,

It's not just the American media, it's the media in most western nations. Can you please provide a link in regards to this 'breast feeding incident'? I very much doubt a person would declare war just because of some incident somewhere. Thats a very shallow way of judging someone. Not you but many people are very, very ignorant and repeat the same mantra the media feeds them.

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Bobby Jundal or whatever is a laughing stock from what I've gathered. He doesn't even consider himself Punjabi/Indian etc :p

What did he do to be considered a 'laughing stock'?

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Kira,

It's not just the American media, it's the media in most western nations. Can you please provide a link in regards to this 'breast feeding incident'? I very much doubt a person would declare war just because of some incident somewhere. Thats a very shallow way of judging someone. Not you but many people are very, very ignorant and repeat the same mantra the media feeds them.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-trump-calls-lawyer-disgusting-for-stopping-lawsuit-testimony-to-breastfeed-her-newborn-child-10423090.html

I meant that, Apparently Trump responded with these tweets.

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What did he do to be considered a 'laughing stock'?

From what I heard. Again, this is stuff iv gathered from American friends, he isn't happy being associated with India or even his roots for that matter. I get the whole thing about American Pride but he went as far as to change his name for acceptance :/

But let me re-iterate. I'm not american nor do I follow the politics of America so i am EXTREMELY ignorant of the whole affair. I'm sure you can help me sort some of my misconceptions and misinformation out.

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-trump-calls-lawyer-disgusting-for-stopping-lawsuit-testimony-to-breastfeed-her-newborn-child-10423090.html

I meant that, Apparently Trump responded with these tweets.

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From what I heard. Again, this is stuff iv gathered from American friends, he isn't happy being associated with India or even his roots for that matter. I get the whole thing about American Pride but he went as far as to change his name for acceptance :/

But let me re-iterate. I'm not american nor do I follow the politics of America so i am EXTREMELY ignorant of the whole affair. I'm sure you can help me sort some of my misconceptions and misinformation out.

I looked it up. Firstly, I'm not sure if he even said those things. From your own link, “You’re disgusting,” Mr Trump is alleged to have said"........notice, it says 'alleged' to have said. Secondly, in his tweets, he stated that she wanted to breast feed her child in front of him and I'm assuming in front of the whole court. I agree. It's inappropriate that a woman exposes her breasts in public in order to breast feed her baby.

Trump won the case. He is a public figure and very rich, an easy target for those who are looking for quick buck using frivolous lawsuits. In the end she lost and has to even pay costs.

He's running for office, expect more negative media on. However, nobody is perfect. Everybody has their bad days. To simply judge a person's abilities on some negative media attacks is shallow. Instead, one should focus on the issues he raised and his abilities.

As for Bobby Jindal westernizing his name, whats the big deal seriously. Are we going to judge a person's candidacy on such shallow means? Are you aware he was a Governor of the state of Louisiana which by size is bigger then many countries in the world? You are going to discount his achievements over him adopting the name 'Bobby'? Where is the proof he's not happy to be associated with Indians? He clearly looks Indian and his last name is clearly Indian. Instead of Piyush he used Bobby. They don't do that in India? Have you not heard of the name of the movie 'Bobby' starring Rishi Kapoor? LOL!!!! Why is it when Indians in India do it it's ok but when Indians outside of India do it, he/she suddenly becomes a sell out? Why the double standards? Maybe he named himself after that character in that 'Indian' movie?

BTW, almost everybody in America does it ie shortening their names or adopting a western first name. Punjabi names like Harjinder are too long and hard on the tongue for westerners. You are running for political office, you want a name people can remember and also relate to. Let's not forget, he's an American and not Indian.

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I looked it up. Firstly, I'm not sure if he even said those things. From your own link, “You’re disgusting,” Mr Trump is alleged to have said"........notice, it says 'alleged' to have said. Secondly, in his tweets, he stated that she wanted to breast feed her child in front of him and I'm assuming in front of the whole court. I agree. It's inappropriate that a woman exposes her breasts in public in order to breast feed her baby.

Trump won the case. He is a public figure and very rich, an easy target for those who are looking for quick buck using frivolous lawsuits. In the end she lost and has to even pay costs.

He's running for office, expect more negative media on. However, nobody is perfect. Everybody has their bad days. To simply judge a person's abilities on some negative media attacks is shallow. Instead, one should focus on the issues he raised and his abilities.

As for Bobby Jindal westernizing his name, whats the big deal seriously. Are we going to judge a person's candidacy on such shallow means? Are you aware he was a Governor of the state of Louisiana which by size is bigger then many countries in the world? You are going to discount his achievements over him adopting the name 'Bobby'? Where is the proof he's not happy to be associated with Indians? He clearly looks Indian and his last name is clearly Indian. Instead of Piyush he used Bobby. They don't do that in India? Have you not heard of the name of the movie 'Bobby' starring Rishi Kapoor? LOL!!!! Why is it when Indians in India do it it's ok but when Indians outside of India do it, he/she suddenly becomes a sell out? Why the double standards? Maybe he named himself after that character in that 'Indian' movie?

BTW, almost everybody in America does it ie shortening their names or adopting a western first name. Punjabi names like Harjinder are too long and hard on the tongue for westerners. You are running for political office, you want a name people can remember and also relate to. Let's not forget, he's an American and not Indian.

Fair enough on Jindal lol

Like i said I barely know anything about American politics or the key players. Though in the case of Trump the Lawyer asked for a medical break but they refused. She was a new mother at the time and she took out the pump as her body would naturally produce milk.

I was sort of trying to draw your attention to the fact he needed to go and Twitter and start a rant about it. Calling it an "easy win" and he "enjoyed it" , quite frankly from someone who wishes to President, why should it let him bother and start something like that. Doesn't seem very mature.

Though I'm not gonna argue with you. You know a massive amount more than I do about Politics in general and I have no desire of starting a debate about something I know nothing about xD

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Bobby Jundal or whatever is a laughing stock from what I've gathered. He doesn't even consider himself Punjabi/Indian etc :p

This. Also, Haley isnt even running.

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Fair enough on Jindal lol

Like i said I barely know anything about American politics or the key players. Though in the case of Trump the Lawyer asked for a medical break but they refused. She was a new mother at the time and she took out the pump as her body would naturally produce milk.

I was sort of trying to draw your attention to the fact he needed to go and Twitter and start a rant about it. Calling it an "easy win" and he "enjoyed it" , quite frankly from someone who wishes to President, why should it let him bother and start something like that. Doesn't seem very mature.

Let me ask you, how do you know that the baby really needed to be fed at that very moment? Were you there to confirm it? How do you know if the lawyer did not purposely ask for a medical break claiming to wanting to feed her baby despite not really needing to, in order to create sympathy from the judge and jurors? How do you know she did not purposely do this unnecessarily in order create a lengthy trial and a political circus?

As I mentioned before, in America you can file hundreds of frivolous lawsuits against an individual despite knowing you're not going to win in order to bog you down with legal fees and drag your name through the mud. The objective here is to not win the case but to create suspicious/doubt and drag your name through mud. That is what happened to Sarah Palin. That is why many Americans are asking for tort reform.

Trump may have behaved childish by calling it an "easy win" and he "enjoyed it" however you need to see the context in which those statements were made. What you should be asking is why did she not just lose but had to pay costs as well.

Though I'm not gonna argue with you. You know a massive amount more than I do about Politics in general and I have no desire of starting a debate about something I know nothing about xD

To be honest, my understanding is at best intermediate. My point is not about politics but about thinking critically instead of blindly accepting false narratives. When you're young you believe in 'good guys' and 'bad guys' and you're the good guy and others are bad. As you grow older you realize there is no real good guy or bad guy, there are always 2 sides to a story and the truth is somewhere in the middle.

It never ceases to amaze me how people blindly believe what the media tells them. The media and leftists in general in almost all western nations are very biased. They have convinced the younger generation that they represent 'progress' and those that have a differing opinion are just racist and evil.

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Who watched the First Republican Debate last night?

My new favorites: Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, Ben Carson, Carly Fiorina. I thought about Bernie Sanders, but he is for gun restrictions, and for abortion. Hillary is an <banned word filter activated> and a proven liar about Benghazi, the Email Scandal, etc. Plus her husband was Bill Clinton who screwed up America, as well as committed adultery while in the White House. Donald Trump is a <banned word filter activated> and an egoist. He is unpresidential without integrity.

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Really don't understand why any of you are getting excited about stupidly ignorant and shallow candidates becoming the leader of the stupidest ignorant shallow nation on earth. It doesn't matter who wins. They're all the same. It's international politics will remain it's same stupid self.

I shouldn't need to spell it out but my mentioning of Nikki Hayley and Bobby Jindal was meant as a reflection to the plethora of threads we had here a few months ago about the lack of any Punjabi politicians in the UK. Now I as a Sikh know that Canada has a few but lets be honest here, Canada is Canada. It doesn't get a mention on the important world political stage.

So, on this thread about Presidential candidates for the most important political job on earth: Lets ask ourselves this: Zero MPs for us in the UK as Punjabis while America has 2 running as candidates receiving massive media attention.

The question then is: Does a Sikh (Gurvinder) need to convert to Christianity and call himself Greg if he wants to be elected ?

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So, on this thread about Presidential candidates for the most important political job on earth: Lets ask ourselves this: Zero MPs for us in the UK as Punjabis while America has 2 running as candidates receiving massive media attention.

The question then is: Does a Sikh (Gurvinder) need to convert to Christianity and call himself Greg if he wants to be elected ?

If it was a SIKH , that would be a different story. But I still wouldn't vote for someone just because they are of my religion, or ethnicity.

You have to keep their policies in mind .

Yeah its kinda really difficult if you are a muslim. And since a lot of ignorant people in america still think we are muslims, then theres a problem for us too.

(For some reason, it is impossible to get elected if you do not support Israel.)

Who watched the First Republican Debate last night?

My new favorites: Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, Ben Carson, Carly Fiorina. I thought about Bernie Sanders, but he is for gun restrictions, and for abortion. Hillary is an <banned word filter activated> and a proven liar about Benghazi, the Email Scandal, etc. Plus her husband was Bill Clinton who screwed up America, as well as committed adultery while in the White House. Donald Trump is a <banned word filter activated> and an egoist. He is unpresidential without integrity.

Donald Trump refused to pledge support to the future GOP nominee and not to run as independent.

I don't know what kind of black magic Trump did on Americans, because he is leading all of the polls, and even if you go to twitter there are thousands of people chanting his name and worshipping him calling him the saviour. Rand Paul seems like the best candidate who would make an excellent president for the country. He is awesome at giving speeches along with his policies. Unfortunately, it seems he is going down in the polls

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Let me ask you, how do you know that the baby really needed to be fed at that very moment? Were you there to confirm it? How do you know if the lawyer did not purposely ask for a medical break claiming to wanting to feed her baby despite not really needing to, in order to create sympathy from the judge and jurors? How do you know she did not purposely do this unnecessarily in order create a lengthy trial and a political circus?

The thing is this was during a deposition. There are no judges,jury etc present except for the lawyers and the plaintiffs etc, on top of that she was a new mother. She can't control when her breasts are full of milk. If she didn't feed the child then she would have simply started leaking and how uncomfortable would that have been. If she asked for a break on those ground she should have had one, if they felt she was abusing it have someone monitor and watch her. It's as simple as that.

Trump may have behaved childish by calling it an "easy win" and he "enjoyed it" however you need to see the context in which those statements were made. What you should be asking is why did she not just lose but had to pay costs as well.

But thats just it. If he let something as trivial as this get to him how does he expect to handle the pressures that Presidential duties would involve. World leaders are constantly under attack, by foreign policies and homeland ones. If he let something like that get to him imagine how the big things would blow out.

To be honest, my understanding is at best intermediate. My point is not about politics but about thinking critically instead of blindly accepting false narratives. When you're young you believe in 'good guys' and 'bad guys' and you're the good guy and others are bad. As you grow older you realize there is no real good guy or bad guy, there are always 2 sides to a story and the truth is somewhere in the middle.

You seem to know more than I do.

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The thing is this was during a deposition. There are no judges,jury etc present except for the lawyers and the plaintiffs etc, on top of that she was a new mother. She can't control when her breasts are full of milk. If she didn't feed the child then she would have simply started leaking and how uncomfortable would that have been. If she asked for a break on those ground she should have had one, if they felt she was abusing it have someone monitor and watch her. It's as simple as that.

Were you there? Did you examine her breasts yourself to confirm her breasts were full of milk? How do you know she did not already go earlier?

But thats just it. If he let something as trivial as this get to him how does he expect to handle the pressures that Presidential duties would involve. World leaders are constantly under attack, by foreign policies and homeland ones. If he let something like that get to him imagine how the big things would blow out.

Really? Why did she have to pay costs in the end? This is not something trivial. As I've mentioned to you earlier frivolous lawsuits can ruin a persons reputation and livelihood. In the case of Sarah Palin, she it cost her position of Governor. Do you understand what this means?

Lets assume he said this against some world leader, what do you think would happen? World war 3? I'm sorry but world leaders don't go to war over silly words and gaffes. Otherwise we would be having world war 1000000 by now.

Curious, who is your benchmark of a good leader? Lets see how 'noble' your choice is. There are no leaders t o this day that are not without gaffes. I've yet to see one. Speaking well and being polished does not equate a good leader, maybe a good debater and a butler but not leadership.

I coudn't care less about Trump or anybody else. What I find amazing is how someone takes a position on a newspaper article believing every word like it's gospel truth and judge a person's abilities on such shallow means.

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Were you there? Did you examine her breasts yourself to confirm her breasts were full of milk? How do you know she did not already go earlier?

Are you for reals? What would you have had her do? sit here and let her leak out during the deposition? She pulled out the pump after they refused to give her the break. What on earth did you expect her to do. If you needed the toilet and couldn't hold it in what would you do?

Really? Why did she have to pay costs in the end? This is not something trivial. As I've mentioned to you earlier frivolous lawsuits can ruin a persons reputation and livelihood. In the case of Sarah Palin, she it cost her position of Governor. Do you understand what this means?

That was the legal fees for the law suit as she lost. How is this not trivial? can you actually compare this to let's say a meeting regarding international affairs for the future of a country? This incident would have hardly bankrupted him as the lawsuit

Lets assume he said this against some world leader, what do you think would happen? World war 3? I'm sorry but world leaders don't go to war over silly words and gaffes. Otherwise we would be having world war 1000000 by now.

certainly not. However it would paint the entire country in a bad light. How would the Chinese feels if he passed a remark about them? or even any other country? the whole point of being a world leader is taking the fire but keeping your cool along side actually have the proper tools to handle and defuse any incident that may occur.

I coudn't care less about Trump or anybody else. What I find amazing is how someone takes a position on a newspaper article believing every word like it's gospel truth and judge a person's abilities on such shallow means.

on such shallow means? I already asserted beforehand that was the only incident I was aware of. I'm probably the prime example of the ignorant masses. Every little thing makes a difference and if he can't keep his cool in the light of something like this how on earth does it make him leadership material? Are you now asserting that we should say what we want in the face of another world leader. Let us assume these rumors are 100% accurate. Would you be happy if your leader went and did something like that to a foreign diplomat. Sure it wouldn't declare war but would likely make things a tad sour between countries.

Anyways I'm gonna stop replying here. You clearly know a tad more than me but I'm far from brainwashed. I'm reading up on various materials including parts from his own website I believe and I'll probably make a valid evaluation on him then.

Curious, who is your benchmark of a good leader? Lets see how 'noble' your choice is. There are no leaders t o this day that are not without gaffes. I've yet to see one. Speaking well and being polished does not equate a good leader, maybe a good debater and a butler but not leadership.

A good leader in my opinion is someone who knows their stuff, is willing to take difficult decisions but at the same time remain calm and keep his temper at all times.

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