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2 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

I don't think they are the backbone of Sikhi myself. I think hordes of them are descendents of opportunists who saw the rising mixed-caste Sikh movement and jumped onboard to free their lands (i.e. to make more money), something they've never stopped trying since - or alternatively they were smacked about by the Khalsa and adopted a 'if you can't beat them join them' strategy. Rattan Bhangu writes as much in his famous book. 

You talk like people don't have any choice in their behaviour and are simple sheep who fall for all the government schemes. I know juts, they are the most casteist people on earth, who can put bahmans to shame with their deeply rooted discriminatory beliefs. They also drink copiously (and not because anyone forces them, but because so many of them love it) and celebrate this fact. Hell, in London when I was growing up juts owned most of the Off Licenses (liquor stores). Jut and sharaab go together like makki di roti and saron de saag. Then they share wives between brothers and sing filthy, suggestive songs about their sister-in-laws.

My point is that juts going on about bhappas or anyone else  about their ' strange culture and societal norms' haven't got a leg to stand on themselves. 

Dear Veer, I am no expert on Khalistan Movement but whenever I hear or read about the Kharrku Singhs, I hardly see an bhapaa in it. May be u can correct me by naming some kharrku singhs from bhapa background.

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You talk like people don't have any choice in their behaviour and are simple sheep who fall for all the government schemes

its sad a Singh like you in saying such things. U are saying that rural punjabis are responsible for the drug problem?

Whole of Khalsa Panth knows that drugs were put in villages of Punjab to finish of punjabi nasal.

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56 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:

its sad a Singh like you in saying such things. U are saying that rural punjabis are responsible for the drug problem?

Whole of Khalsa Panth knows that drugs were put in villages of Punjab to finish of punjabi nasal.

Like there isn't a thousand and one jut truck driving smugglers and dealers who are making a fortune from it. Our lot supply the rest of India with that crap from Afghanistan. The quicker we 'dependufy' and get a modern. non-agricultural dependent economy in Panjab the better for all the quom. Juts have to adjust and adapt, just like all the lohars, clothes weavers, pot makers, mistris etc. etc. did when the industrial revolution came on and made a large part of their skills redundant. 

 

1 hour ago, shastarSingh said:

Dear Veer, I am no expert on Khalistan Movement but whenever I hear or read about the Kharrku Singhs, I hardly see an bhapaa in it. May be u can correct me by naming some kharrku singhs from bhapa background.

See, this is exactly why the movement failed in the end, jut tossers turned it into some caste sh1t in the end. I tell you what, the majority of murderous, sick, 'encounter' happy Punjab Police members came from guess what background. If a lot of kharkus came from a particular background, the people who were killing them also came from the very same background. 

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2 hours ago, shastarSingh said:

its sad a Singh like you in saying such things. U are saying that rural punjabis are responsible for the drug problem?

Whole of Khalsa Panth knows that drugs were put in villages of Punjab to finish of punjabi nasal.

And being so naive like you the villagers could not say no to drugs and consumed them happily. 

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37 minutes ago, Jonny101 said:

Bro its not the caste that makes one brave but the ideology. Where were the Punjabi jats before they had become Sikhs and Muslims/pathans were invading the land? It was the ideology of Sikhi which made them brave not the jaat paat.

 

Secondly, there are good and bad qualities in both urban and rural. we need to discard the bad and only focus on retaining the good. Many urban families who have a khalsa centric way of thinking and are panthic minded but sadly most urbanites are secularists. As for Rural folks, they have been influenced negatively by their fukra NRI relatives. besides this, we all know the drinking problem, and jaat paat issues among ruralites. 

 

So no side is entirely good or bad.

 

 

Very well said brother.

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