playing football with a kirpan

[Guest football singh]

sat sri akal. i've had a bit of a problem recently and i needed some help and i've been directed here. i'm planning on attending an amrit sanchar to be blessed with amrit in the summer and i'm also going to turn pro playing football professionally. where would i put my kirpan when i play? do i tie a small one around my neck or tie one around my thigh or keep one in my dastar? what do i do when i'm playing?

thank you

[Guest A player]

If you are talking about soccer then all you do is shorten your Gathra. You don't need to cut the original. You know how undercover cops wear their holsters when they are not dressed like officers. Same thing make sure you have your Kirpan in your under arms.

[Guest football singh]

I don't think I can do that. Players barging me and me barging them can be very harmful. The English game is very physical and especially on the big stages I don't want any come back of my kirpan being banned and not letting me play. Is it okay if I wear one around my neck?

[Guest Someguy]

9 hours ago, Guest football singh said:

I don't think I can do that. Players barging me and me barging them can be very harmful. The English game is very physical and especially on the big stages I don't want any come back of my kirpan being banned and not letting me play. Is it okay if I wear one around my neck?

It is a kirpan not a janeu. 

[Guest A Player]

It sounds like you want to wear a 9" Kirpan. I mean I play all types of sports my daughter when she was in her teens played and so did my son we all wore probably a 3" Kirpan. It just I don't believe in wearing those kirpans around your neck. Rest is up to you what you feel is right.

[Guest]

I recommend that you do not wear necklace kirpans. Many people are against it.

I'd suggest if the kirpan is medium or large you can tuck it into your pants, it stops it from flying around.

You can keep one in your dastar if you wish.

Some people also take it off and do an ardas later but it's not really recommended just incase a Singh/Singhni see's it in a different way and starts a public scandal 

[Guest football singh]

rules in pro football probably wont allow me to play with a  kirpan as it can be dangerous for myself if i fall but also for other people if they barge and tackle me plus there will be many people watching and i don't want to spark conversations about whether a sikh should be running around with a knife etc. what if i find a really really small kirpan and wear that instead? i have found a tiny 3 inch one that i can wear and that will be fine but i need to find a gatra for it and i dont think any gatra will fit that. can i just use any straps as a gatra or do they have to be a certain type? i have a laptop bag strap that i can add the kirpan to but i don't know if that''s allowed by sikhi.

[Guest football singh]

19 hours ago, Guest Someguy said:

It is a kirpan not a janeu. 

there are many people who wear kirpans around their necks as necklaces and i didn't say it was right or wrong i simply asked if i should or shouldnt

[singhunit 137]

This is the problem with this forum and the state of our panth. A brother comes on for genuine help and gets slated for no reason.

[jkvlondon 5,637]

OP Brother,

why don't you wear a travel kirpan three inch size inside your dastar , will there be a problem with your kara too ? if so I'm sure you can also wear it inside your bunga.

my sons used take their chain kirpans and put them up this way for school matches because chains with kirpans were deemed unsafe ...once they did this no hassles.

Little one wears thick longer length wrist sweatband over her kara for football practice .

[Guest football singh]

1 hour ago, singhunit said:

This is the problem with this forum and the state of our panth. A brother comes on for genuine help and gets slated for no reason.

it's okay i'm not too stressed i just don't understand the need for pettiness

[Guest football singh]

6 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

OP Brother,

why don't you wear a travel kirpan three inch size inside your dastar , will there be a problem with your kara too ? if so I'm sure you can also wear it inside your bunga.

yeah i have no problem with wearing in my dastaar. i can wear a thin kara and ill tape it up around my arm so thats no problem at all. i just wanted to know if its okay that i can wear a kirpan in my dastaar as per sikhi. the small 3 inch one fits well within the palm of my hand so there's no problem with putting it in my dastaar but idk if its allowed

[Guest football singh]

6 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

OP Brother,

why don't you wear a travel kirpan three inch size inside your dastar , will there be a problem with your kara too ? if so I'm sure you can also wear it inside your bunga.

sorry, what does OP mean?

[simran345 2,503]

9 hours ago, Guest football singh said:

sorry, what does OP mean?

OP = Original Poster. 

[jkvlondon 5,637]

10 hours ago, Guest football singh said:

yeah i have no problem with wearing in my dastaar. i can wear a thin kara and ill tape it up around my arm so thats no problem at all. i just wanted to know if its okay that i can wear a kirpan in my dastaar as per sikhi. the small 3 inch one fits well within the palm of my hand so there's no problem with putting it in my dastaar but idk if its allowed

point is to keep punj kakkar with you , so I do not see a problem , the type of kirpan I'm talking about is the one with mian not just symbolic pendant. If you can wear a dastar I can't see a reason to object it is not like the dastar isn't going to cushion any possible headclashes.