Hindu+Muslim Descendants of Gurmukhs

[Guest Ramesh Chand Sodhi]

Hello I am a 18th generation I(Hindu) descendant of Guru Arjan Dev Ji and I am writing a book about the lakhs of non-Sikhs who respect Sikhism

I have met other Hindu's and Muslim descendants of Sikh Guru's and Gurmukhs and all owe their wealth to Sikh Sangat who give us satkaar

Dhan Baba Nanak! Jai Mata Di! Nabi ya Rasul ko Salaam!

[GurjantGnostic 525]

Interesting perspective friend. Will be a beautiful book I'm sure. 

[puzzled 1,467]

Bro I'm a sodhi as well, Iv always wanted to know more about the family tree      will be a great book ...

Edited November 26, 2018 by puzzled

[Guest Pakhand]

There are thousands of Hindu's with the surnames Bedi, Bhalla and Sodhi who claim to be between the 18th to 20th generational kul of Guru Sahibaan. They operate very profitable Mandirs which have one cheap painting of Guru Nanak inside them batched with various idols and collect all the money offered from Sikhs naive enough to pass through.

There are also many Mehra's and Dutt's who are Hindu yet claim to be the descendants of (sehajdhari Sikh) Moti Ram Mehra and Amritdhari Shaheed Kirpa Singh (formerly known as Pandit Kirpa Ram Dutt).

This pakhand is not only restricted to India as now there are even Muslims in Pakistan earning money out of naive and gullible Sikhs by claiming to the Muslims descendants of the first Guru ka Sikh (Bhai Mardana Ji).

The question that has to be asked is why would Guru Sahibaan and Sikh Gurmukhs whose descendents were provably part of the Sikh Sangat change from faith in Ik Onkar to believing in pedophile slaveowners or the caste system and worshipping cows? Or is that Sikhs encourage this pakhand by virtue of our gullibility? Whereas if someone tried to make a living by claiming to be a Christian or Jewish descendent of Muhammad they would be laughed out of court and similarly most Hindu's avoid claiming to descendants of Lord Buddha or Mahavir Jain as they know that most Buddhists and Jains are too smart to be fooled by such nonsense. But Sikhs on the other hand can easily be conned by charlatans and pakhandi's

 

[Punjabiwolves 637]

Hindu's do not worship cows. they respect them tho some take it too far . but none the less cows are not gods in Hinduism . its quite fashionable to abuse Hinduism and Hindus by calling them cow worshippers, piss drinkers, <banned word filter activated> worshippers. tree worshippers and so on yet they have zero understanding of Hinduism and how in theory it's a  very simple faith when broken down to its original form. 

[Guest Pakhand]

12 minutes ago, Punjabiwolves said:

Hindu's do not worship cows. they respect them tho some take it too far . but none the less cows are not gods in Hinduism . its quite fashionable to abuse Hinduism and Hindus by calling them cow worshippers, piss drinkers,

Bro my response was not to diss Hindu's as individuals. But believe or not there are many who literally worship Gau Mata as a Goddess and you will see Hindutva sponsored cows with the Guru's as part of it. I agree that the anti-Sikh trolls on this site who hate on Hindu's by describing them as cow piss drinkers do that in order to create hatred and prevent Hindu's learning about Sikhi (Sanatan Dharam).

The point of my post was to bring awareness about crooks who are unashamedly Hindu and Muslim but earn a living by pimping lies that they are descendents of Sikh Guru's or famous Gurmukhs of the Sikh Panth. I am very sorry if that accidentally offended you in the process as I like most of your cool posts and hate trolls like puzzledtoo or others who diss people deliberately to create hatred between Hindu's and Sikhs. People who refer to other posters as cow pi$$ drinkers are clearly trolls so please ignore them. Anyhow Wolves have been playing pi$$ poor of late (if you'll excuse the pun!)

[Punjabiwolves 637]

no offence was taken. those Hindus that worship cows are way out of touch with reality and have made Hinduism look like a joke. when you think about it  Hinduism is just about mediation, respecting living things and living with nature. there is only one god but has many forms which represent its own meaning.  but over the centuries or so nonsense has been added.    Sri Guru  Nanak Dev Ji alluded to this point all the nonsense and injustice of the cast system in Hinduism. as for Mandirs etc in the Uk , they are run like a business, the pundits only care to make money. The pundit at the main Mandir in Wolverhampton comes works 5 hours a day in the temple where he mostly watches cricket (The mandir has sky sports)  he makes money off weddings funerals and on top of that he rents out properties so he is a landlord  aswell. 

[Punjabiwolves 637]

As for Wolves that 2-0 loss vs Huddersfield was shocking, the worst I have seen wolves play since Nuno took over. all the players played crap especially Neves. Cardiff is a must-win match now. can't afford to lose as we will then be in a relegation battle. Nuno needs to change the formation to 4--3-3 vs Cardiff as we get bullied easily in midfield and need a 3rd midfielder someone like Dendockar. btw I think I know who you are lol?   

[puzzled 1,467]

Don't know for sure about the original poster but I'm a sodhi and come from a sikh family. Iv actually never met a hindu sodhi before but there probably are a few out there. In my dad's pind there are around 10 sodhi houses and most of them are amritdhari sikhs. My family are like the only non amritdhari moneh ones. All the sodhi houses in our pind are clustered together. My thia says that all the sodhi houses in the pind are distant relatives and that several generations back we moved from the anandpur area and settled in the current pind.  Don't know much more    

But we ain't Hindus and neither do we make money from this lol   all the sodhis in my dad's pind are farmers

[Guest Giggs 4 Utd Manager]

1 hour ago, puzzled said:

Don't know for sure about the original poster but I'm a sodhi and come from a sikh family.

Yes bro there are Sodhi's who are genuinely Sikh but the difference between your family and certain masands is that AFAIK your family don't go around claiming descent from Sikh Guru's. The interesting thing is that Sodhi is a personal name which was popular in Punjab across all backgrounds (similar to say the (sur)names Jassi or Billa for example) but after 1849 certain Hindu Khatri's at the encouragement of the British took to appropriating it as a sign of descent despite the fact that the Sodhi name has no link to Khatri ancestry! Furthermore, there is no validity to the claim that there was a Punjabi King who had an imaginary Sodhi kingdom on the banks of the River Ganges in Uttar Pradesh as there is nothing in Indian history indicating or authenticating such a Hindu Kingdom! Ironically these same (Hindu) Sodhi businessman have trouble accepting the fact that Mata Gujjar Kaur were indisputably of Gujjar ancestry.

3 hours ago, Punjabiwolves said:

As for Wolves that 2-0 loss vs Huddersfield was shocking

Something even more shocking is that the Chinese government which oppresses our Tibeti brethren and Ladakhi Sikhs and Buddhists (whilst investing billions into Pakistan) pulls the strings behind how the fascist Chinese Govt image is projected BY WW+WBA+AV+BC. Similar to how Islamofascist governments like Qatar (Etihad) and Abu Dhabi (Emirates) shield their regimes from human rights abuses against Indian workers who they treat like dogs via the soft power of "football" whilst using the profits from their dirty airlines to support Islamofascist elements. Expect more Venky's (lol) copycats in the future backed by Modi if he wins re-election next year.

3 hours ago, Punjabiwolves said:

Sri Guru  Nanak Dev Ji alluded to this point all the nonsense and injustice of the cast system in Hinduism. as for Mandirs etc in the Uk , they are run like a business, the pundits only care to make money. The pundit at the main Mandir in Wolverhampton comes works 5 hours a day in the temple where he mostly watches cricket (The mandir has sky sports)  he makes money off weddings funerals and on top of that he rents out properties so he is a landlord  as well. 

Well pointed out bro and yes not a bad job watching cricket all day long and protesting against caste equality legislation in the UK!

[namespace 41]

Well m8 I hope you're a bahkti of Durga if you have to be Hindi.

[Sukhvirk1976 286]

7 hours ago, Guest Pakhand said:

There are thousands of Hindu's with the surnames Bedi, Bhalla and Sodhi who claim to be between the 18th to 20th generational kul of Guru Sahibaan. They operate very profitable Mandirs which have one cheap painting of Guru Nanak inside them batched with various idols and collect all the money offered from Sikhs naive enough to pass through.

There are also many Mehra's and Dutt's who are Hindu yet claim to be the descendants of (sehajdhari Sikh) Moti Ram Mehra and Amritdhari Shaheed Kirpa Singh (formerly known as Pandit Kirpa Ram Dutt).

This pakhand is not only restricted to India as now there are even Muslims in Pakistan earning money out of naive and gullible Sikhs by claiming to the Muslims descendants of the first Guru ka Sikh (Bhai Mardana Ji).

The question that has to be asked is why would Guru Sahibaan and Sikh Gurmukhs whose descendents were provably part of the Sikh Sangat change from faith in Ik Onkar to believing in pedophile slaveowners or the caste system and worshipping cows? Or is that Sikhs encourage this pakhand by virtue of our gullibility? Whereas if someone tried to make a living by claiming to be a Christian or Jewish descendent of Muhammad they would be laughed out of court and similarly most Hindu's avoid claiming to descendants of Lord Buddha or Mahavir Jain as they know that most Buddhists and Jains are too smart to be fooled by such nonsense. But Sikhs on the other hand can easily be conned by charlatans and pakhandi's

 

You don't know what you are talking about 

[Guest $ant $amaj Pakhandio]

Sant Samaj and various Pakhandi Baba's also claim that the Chaar Sahibzade were actually the Hindu Deities Brahma, Shiva, Vishnu and Mahesh in their so-called imaginary past lives.

Even the Panj Piare are claimed by Sant Samaj Badal-RSS to be the reincarnations of various Hindu gods and goddesses as they know the revolutionary posed by the Indian public realising that so-called untouchables from Gujarat, Orissa, Karnataka etc all united into the brotherhood of the Khalsa Panth as Sikhs.

Hindutva agents like the Sant Samaj even claim that the Guru Sahibaan were Hindu Kings in previous lives who divided up the order GurGaddi as a business deal with no connection to Bibek Buddhi of our Guru Sahibaan

 

[jkvlondon 4,913]

On 11/26/2018 at 8:02 PM, Guest Pakhand said:

Bro my response was not to diss Hindu's as individuals. But believe or not there are many who literally worship Gau Mata as a Goddess and you will see Hindutva sponsored cows with the Guru's as part of it. I agree that the anti-Sikh trolls on this site who hate on Hindu's by describing them as cow piss drinkers do that in order to create hatred and prevent Hindu's learning about Sikhi (Sanatan Dharam).

The point of my post was to bring awareness about crooks who are unashamedly Hindu and Muslim but earn a living by pimping lies that they are descendents of Sikh Guru's or famous Gurmukhs of the Sikh Panth. I am very sorry if that accidentally offended you in the process as I like most of your cool posts and hate trolls like puzzledtoo or others who diss people deliberately to create hatred between Hindu's and Sikhs. People who refer to other posters as cow pi$$ drinkers are clearly trolls so please ignore them. Anyhow Wolves have been playing pi$$ poor of late (if you'll excuse the pun!)

even panth dusht Amitabh Bachan has tried this BS by claiming relatedness to Guru Nanak Dev ji Via his bad chalang mum Teji

[Guest Khojidas]

On 11/26/2018 at 2:14 AM, Guest Ramesh Chand Sodhi said:

Hello I am a 18th generation I(Hindu) descendant of Guru Arjan Dev Ji and I am writing a book about the lakhs of non-Sikhs who respect Sikhism

I have met other Hindu's and Muslim descendants of Sikh Guru's and Gurmukhs and all owe their wealth to Sikh Sangat who give us satkaar

Dhan Baba Nanak! Jai Mata Di! Nabi ya Rasul ko Salaam!

I am very intrigued to learn of these 'Muslim' descendants of Sikh Guru's...... can you please supply the evidence also. 

 

Many thanks