Amrit~What is it for?

[Guest JSS]

just to answer pheena veer's question...EVEN though i'm SURE he knows the answer..hahaha....

no...it doesn't make sense going and taking amrit without being aware of what you are getting yourself into...and yes....there is a maryada that one has to follow after taking amrit...and it isn't easy...one needs to be prepared for it....

Bhai vir singh ji once said that a person should only take amrit when he feels it with every molecule of his body, when he feels he cannot take another breath without having guruji's amrit, when he is REALLY ready to give his HEAD for amrit, then that person should take amrit...

[Gupt daasan daas]

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

did i say to take amrit before prepaering?

i practiced reight more than a year before amrit

i know u shud have maryad alsoo veer je

of course, before amrit make ure amrit vela perfect, do more than nitnem banis, then take amrit once ure reight is very good

but u need amrit

bhula chuka maf

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

[Pheena]

Khalistani, you posted before right before my post, it was no inteded for you, but for those who told Jedi Singh to just take Amrit. On one hand they are correct because only those who have taken Amrit can know the full experience of it, but on the other hand they should provide as much info as possible to satisfy mr. Jedi Singh.

[S1ngh]

Good post ms514

Taking amrit is not THAT BIG HARD THING to do.. its just a entry level point into sikhi and a step to beat your mind.

In my view if person can do the following below:

1) Amritvela Nitnemi - Do all bania

2) Simran - Depends on you

3) Follow Rehat example : be humble, help others and follow Sri guru granth sahib je.

Personally i would never dare to question the power of amrit, so i would request to all veers and phaenjeea not to question about amrit's power. If you really want to know than contact with your local panj piyaraes or get more sikhi knowledge before taking amrit. The person who have doubt on the power of amrit, he/she shouldn't take amrit until he/she understand the meaning of it by himself/herself.

Btw. this is the reason why <admin-profanity filter activated> kala afghana got booted off the sikh panth for question and name calling the power of amrit.

There are many things which you can't satisfy your mind without having the first hand experience by yourself. how this universe system works? What is in the black hole? how many stars are ? Nobody will answers these questions unless he/she go into that studies and dedicate LOTS of his/her personal time to find the answers. So same thing with Amrit, Go back, Study our history, read great sikhi books and then find it by yourself rather than depending on the replies getting on message boards like this :wub:

[Son of Guru Gobind Singh Ji]

crn srin gur eyk pYfw jwie cl

siq gur koit pYfw Awgy hoie lyq hY ]

[Gurjeet_Kaur]

I think that taking Amrit will only have an effect on you IF you walk in with true intentions... when you REALLY want to give your head to the guru, this is when Amrit will affect you like nothing else.

My cousins took Amrit a few years ago, only to see what it was like and all, KNOWING that they would probably eventually break it... they weren't affected by it at all and did end up breaking it.

I've heard stories of gursikhs, who prepared for amrit, did naam abhyaas, read as much bani as possible, before taking amrit... and when they did take it, it had a HUGE, instant impact on them.

Jedi Singh, I think only Guru Sahib in the form of the Punj Piarey would be able to give you the best answer to this question. Just talk to them at the next Amrit Sanchaar in your area, not necessarily to take Amrit (unless you're ready), but to simply dispel all these doubts/questions you have.

If you're from Vancouver, there's one coming up in two weeks I believe (possibly earlier).

Vaheguroo jee ka Khalsa Vaheguroo jee kee Fateh!!!

[Son of Guru Gobind Singh Ji]

By Jathedar Raam Singh (Soora, Mar, 87)

Translated by www.tapoban.org Admin

This is an incident from the 1972 Agra Keertan Smaagam. It is for me an unforgettable memory, which causes me to feel bairaag, and teaches about divinely ordained fate and the Guru’s grace.

It was the ran sabaaee for the smaagam and after the selection of the Punj Pyaaray, the Jathedar Sahib of the Punj Pyaaray told me to go outsie and see how many aspirants for Amrit were present. I took permission of the Jatehdar and went outside to see. After asking around I found out that about five or six individuals had come for this priceless gift of Amrit. Sitting a little farther back than the rest of the aspirants, all alone was an Eastern-Indian, Hindu Bhaiyaa family (husband, wife, and three children). From their clothes I could tell they were extremely poor. My conversation with them was as such:

I: What have you come here for?

The Couple: Baboo jee, to take amrit.

I: (with surprise) What did you say?

Couple: Baboo jee, for amrit. We have taken a bath before coming. All of us, even the children.

I: Are you wearing a Kacherra?

Couple: No Baboo jee.

I: Kirpaan, Kangha, KaRa…do you have any of these?

Couple: No Baboo jee.

I could see myself that they were not wearing keskees. I told them about the restrictions on the use of meat, alchol and tobacco. They were completely ready to meet any condtions to receive amrit.

I went back inside and told Jathedar Sahib everything. Jathear Sahib began to laugh and was very happy. He gave permission for the Hindu family to be dressed in the five kakaars and be presente

d before the Punj Pyaaray.

I requested a Singh who lived in Agra to arrange for kakaars for the family and also suitable clothes (salvaar kameez, dupatta) for the wife. The wife was wearing a dhotee at the time. The Agra Singh quickly arranged for all the required things.

The peshees egan. The Punj Pyaaray gave this family approval as candidates for amrit. After the peshees, all the amrit candidates were called inside. The Bata was prepared. The candidates kept receiving amrit and beginning their spiritual lives as the Amrit hall began to echo with naam. At the very end came the turn of this family. First the Singh came. The candidate assumed the beer aasun. His conversation with Punj was like this:

Panch: (After giving Amrit choola) Bol, Vaahiguru Jee kaa khaalsaaa Vaahiguru jee kee fateh!

Abhilakhee: Silent.

Panch: Bol Vaahiguru jee kaa khaalsaa vaahiguru jee kee fateh!

Ab: Silent.

Panch: (understanding he had not ever heard the Fateh before), How we say it, you too should repeat like us.

Ab: Yes sir.

Panch: Bolo Vahiguru

Ab: Vaahiguru

Panch: Jee kaa

Ab: Jee kaa

Panch: Khalsa

Ab: Khansa

Panch: Not Khansa, KHALSA

Ab: Falsa

Panch: not Falsa, say KHA

Ab: KHA

Panch: L

Ab: L

Panch: Sa

Ab: Sa

Panch: Vahiguru

Ab: Vahiguru

Panch: Jee kee

Ab: Jee kee

Panch: Fateh!

Ab: Fateh!

And like this, this candidate was blessed with Amrit. It took him a long time to learn how to recite naam as well. The came the turn of his older son who was about ten years old. He had the same experience as his father. Then came the wife’s turn. The word Khalsa had to be split apart for her as well for her to repeat it. When the bibi had received amrit, the Panch, (through the Jathedar Sahib) told the Bibi, “You have taken Amrit. Now the Punj Pyaaray will give you naam. You will accompany us as we now medit

ate on it”

After saying this, the Panch put their hands on her head and released the first furaataa of svaas giraasee naam abhyaas. With the second furaataa, this Bibi (who had never ever heard even the Fateh or naam before) began to do abhyaas like she had been doing so for many years. She would recite naam so clearly and easily and louder than anyone else. All the observers began to smile and watch this Bibi. The Bibi’s body became solid and she fell into the dandaut position. The power of naam abhyaas was moving her body so much that the Panch had to hold her head with great struggle so it wouldn’t hit the ground. It was getting hard to manage the Bibi. Jathedar Sahib motioned to the other Bibis sitting close by to take care of the Bibi and turned her over to them. For a long time she stayed in this state. When she regained consciousness (even though her naam khanda was still going) she had a Guru given glow on her face, which causes vairaag in the observer. She sat down and was fully immersed in naam meditation. The youngest daughter who was about two years old also had abhyaas just like her mother’s.

After the amrit sinchaar, the couple was re-married according to the Anand Kaaraj ceremony and was given names according to Gurmat.

Because of some old karmas, this family must have been born in the East and worked hard labour and lived in abject poverty. When the architect of destiny willed, this family must have been sitting and eating in the Langar when they heard they could also receive Amrit. The bathed and arrived. Their destiny was to awaken, so Guru Sahib created a path for them. With innocence, they arrived and sat a bit apart from the rest of the candidates. In their minds they had the wish, “we too will take amrit”. What did they know what amrit was or how it was received? They must have thought amrit was given like langar. The great puppeteer was in their hearts and making all this possible. The Lord created such a play and made these candidates speak such words tha

t in their innocence, they were accepted at the door of the Guru. After receiving the gift of amrit and naam, such grace fell upon this family that is seen of very few others. Their soul, thirsting for naam, upon receiving just a droplet of it, completely immersed itself. This was all a play of old Karmas.

http://www.tapoban.org/1972%20Agra%20Keert...n%20Smaagam.pdf

[Ryu Hayabusa]

Bhai vir singh ji once said that a person should only take amrit when he feels it with every molecule of his body, when he feels he cannot take another breath without having guruji's amrit, when he is REALLY ready to give his HEAD for amrit, then that person should take amrit...

JSS,

Do you have any audio or link for this? :wub:

[V]

Bhai vir singh ji once said that a person should only take amrit when he feels it with every molecule of his body, when he feels he cannot take another breath without having guruji's amrit, when he is REALLY ready to give his HEAD for amrit, then that person should take amrit...

JSS,

Do you have any audio or link for this? :wub:

Unlikely as most of BHai Vir SIngh ji's stuff is written in his litterature.

It's amazing stuff

also I'd like to know, stuff liek Bijai Singh - After ahve read it i noticed there were lots of detaisl and stuff - was tha fiction or someone who narrated it to BHai Sahib - Cause there was such a termendous amount of details..

bhull chukk maaf

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

[Guest JSS]

veerji, my dad told me about what bhai vir singh ji had said....he heard it through his dad who did sangat of Sant Sangat Singh ji Kamaliay valay....who was a very good friend of Bhai vir singh ji....they used to do simran and bandgi together...