Hinduism and non-veg

[shastarSingh 258]

Valmiki's Ramayana mentions eating of meat.

https://jhatkamaryada.com/2017/05/02/reference-valmiki-ramayana-ayodha-kand-52102/

[shastarSingh 258]

https://jhatkamaryada.com/2016/11/01/other-faiths-take-on-the-consumption-of-maas/

 

[puzzled 1,699]

Well to survive in the forest for 14 years they had to eat something lol.

Ramayan Is a interesting scripture  if you like reading old scriptures  I recommend ramayan. A bit over the top and melancholic at times. 

Main theme is morals and virtues. adultry and sexual sin is repetitive theme. So is loyalty and not breaking promises. 

[MisterrSingh 3,343]

31 minutes ago, puzzled said:

Well to survive in the forest for 14 years they had to eat something lol.

Ramayan Is a interesting scripture  if you like reading old scriptures  I recommend ramayan. A bit over the top and melancholic at times. 

Main theme is morals and virtues. adultry and sexual sin is repetitive theme. So is loyalty and not breaking promises. 

The Mahabharata is superior IMO. The political intrigue, the dynastic and domestic conflicts, and the philosophy of mysticism that underpins it all, just can't be beaten. It's feels a lot more layered and complex compared to the Ramayana even if the latter does share most of those attributes. 

[shastarSingh 258]

2 hours ago, puzzled said:

Well to survive in the forest for 14 years they had to eat something lol.

If u read the text I posted carefully, Raam calls the meat sacred.

The meat is also called pure.

[Akalifauj 900]

1 hour ago, shastarSingh said:

If u read the text I posted carefully, Raam calls the meat sacred.

The meat is also called pure.

Is what Raamchandra said dhuri ki Bani/shabad Guru/Gurbani? No, not in the slightest.  Even bhai gurdas  ji Vaar are accepted because Guru sahib gave them the title, key of Gurbani. And bhai Sahib wasn't sent by Vaheguru with powers and the mission to spread Vaheguru name.  Raamchandra was and he miserably failed.  Guru Sahib didn't give Raamchadr saying any importance.  Dasam Bani addresses his behavior and corrects what they said and did. So what does it matter if he called meat pure? Stop being a manmat follower of any group, you obviously are cheerleading for the nihang squad at the moment.  Gurmat is reading Gurbani and holding Gurbani in the heart.  There are key people to learn from in Nihang jathabandi but to hop on the bandwagon so far up the horses arse is no better than the brahmin feeding the stone idol and bathing it in milk.

[puzzled 1,699]

4 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

The Mahabharata is superior IMO. The political intrigue, the dynastic and domestic conflicts, and the philosophy of mysticism that underpins it all, just can't be beaten. It's feels a lot more layered and complex compared to the Ramayana even if the latter does share most of those attributes. 

Iv never read mahabharat, iv got it on kindle.  It definitely sounds more interesting.

 

[shastarSingh 258]

23 minutes ago, Akalifauj said:

Is what Raamchandra said dhuri ki Bani/shabad Guru/Gurbani? No, not in the slightest.  Even bhai gurdas  ji Vaar are accepted because Guru sahib gave them the title, key of Gurbani. And bhai Sahib wasn't sent by Vaheguru with powers and the mission to spread Vaheguru name.  Raamchandra was and he miserably failed.  Guru Sahib didn't give Raamchadr saying any importance.  Dasam Bani addresses his behavior and corrects what they said and did. So what does it matter if he called meat pure? Stop being a manmat follower of any group, you obviously are cheerleading for the nihang squad at the moment.  Gurmat is reading Gurbani and holding Gurbani in the heart.  There are key people to learn from in Nihang jathabandi but to hop on the bandwagon so far up the horses arse is no better than the brahmin feeding the stone idol and bathing it in milk.

U r right brother, Raam failed.Infact Gurbani says Vishnu and his avatars r subject to jamm/ kaal.

[MisterrSingh 3,343]

1 hour ago, puzzled said:

Iv never read mahabharat, iv got it on kindle.  It definitely sounds more interesting.

I try to read it once a year. There's a lot to be learned from a human perspective in terms of the morals and the arguments it raises. A person doesn't have to be a Hindophile to glean something meaningful from the text.

[Akalifauj 900]

When it comes to other religious scriptures why did Guru Sahib say to read them? Was it to understand how to be moral? Gurbani provides us with spiritual wisdom and morals of the highest kind. It would be counterproductive to look else where for morals. Guru sahib says, give me your head (completely and only focus on the shabad) when you come on the Gurmat path. Guru Sahib tells sikhs to read other religious scriptures because when a Gurmukh has fully attuned his mind with Gurbani he can see naam everywhere. So when reading other religious scripture the Gurmukh can pick up on the naam that is there and serve the humans that are lost in the vedas, gita, bible, Koran, Torah, etc. Also Gurbani makes references on other religious scriptures concepts so we can achieve a total picture of their concepts when reading their scriptures. But many lose sight of the goal and start collecting merchandise (intellectual knowledge and maya)from these scriptures. But Guru Sahib says all merchandise can be achieved from Gurbani. Anand Sahib says this path is sharper than a double edged sword and finer than a hair.  The path of Gurmat can be simple if we follow the instructions of Gurbani or life can be made difficult by losing the purpose in life as Gurbani describes it.

[Akalifauj 900]

Today we have a major issue with Sikh youth walking into university classes like sociology and walking out extremist.  Whether that be feminist extremist or LGBTQ extremist or atheist.  When it comes to Gurbani these groups and people look for lines or a line of Gurbani and take it out of context to support their extremist LGBTQ beliefs on marriage,  gender being same or new thing no gender or infinite gender.  Like we had the ignorant couple from the states who got married by having his wife walk along with him.  The point being they dont follow Guru Sahib.   They attain 'knowledge' else where and want to force it on Sikhi.   The Sikh youth laugh at the Sikhs who bow at a fake baba's feet.  But, the irony is the Gurmukhs are shaking their head at both of them.  One is bowing to a fake baba and the other is bowing their mind by accepting secular knowledge that will always be in the trial phase.  Neither are better than the other.  The youth of today, and it's been done by a few old farts, attain masters or doctorate in fields like chemistry,  sociology or another field and then say we have a doctorate in Sikhi.  They write articles on what they want Sikhi to be and in their name they put "dr.".  Such deception is being done by these old farts.  Sikhi is about honesty, yet they start their article with deception.   

If you want to be a Sikh, then Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji is the teacher and classroom.  Not your sociology professor who tells you abortion of a 37 week baby is a women birth right choice, but dont kill that cow because imeat industry  is killing the environment,  go vegan.  

In short,  dont be the monkey with the wrench.