Marriage Concerns

[Guest guest]

14 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

No, it's all those Sikh females sneaking into Gurdwareh during lockdown to marry white guys and Muslims that seem to be letting the side down. I guess in your reality that's acceptable.

not acceptable in my view at all.  i had no idea that was happening.  its the Gurdware that are allowing it.

[Guest Realist]

On 11/22/2020 at 2:20 PM, Guest guest said:

they don't allow it anymore under SGPC.  i know people who have been turned around for wanting to marry non-sikhs.

or is there a separate rule for males with beards?  double standard?

You guys are living in a fantasy land.

Amritdhari males are more likely to marry non amritdharis : FACT

So you tell me, who has it worse? The Amritdhari women who go unmarried because they are not pleasing enough to your gaze or you males who are too busy playing the victim card?

[Guest Singh]

21 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

all those Sikh females sneaking into Gurdwareh during lockdown 

This is alarmist rhetoric ^ 

I don't believe anything of the sort has happened in 2020.

There are hardly any females of Sikh background (of sound mind) who are volunteering for marriage with avowedly Muslim males given the Quran's license for Muslim men to beat women violently should their wife be disobedient.

The fact that Muhammad has been exposed as a racist Slave Trader, wealthy Slave Owner and Genocidal Pedophile (at age 54 he consummated his marriage with a 9year old child Aisha) has helped most intelligent non-Muslim women understand the dangers of marrying Muslim men. Muhammad the role model for all Muslim men used  multiple slavegirl concubines in addition to his eleven plus Arab (Qureshi caste) wives should scare any woman off from marrying a Muslim male. Hence, the recent emerging and growing trend of women born to Muslim parents in Western countries escaping the hell of Islam to marry non-Muslim men.

Now coming back to Sikh females in the Diaspora. Given that Sikh males marry white females to a far greater degree (circa 20%) - especially with the added recent uptick in Kesdhari Sikh men with white wives - than is the case the opposite way round and another 20% of Sikh males who are importing wives (to the further negative detriment of already lop-sided gender demographics in east Punjab) then that leaves, ceteris paribus, a 50% plus imbalance between the excess number of Sikh females from the Diaspora looking to get married versus available Sikh males (once we subtract for those Sikh males marrying white women or having a wife born in Punjab). For obvious reasons, which we do not need to go into, there is a certain reluctance in 2020 for Sikh females in the Diaspora to choose husbands from Punjab. Having said that such marriages (even with overstayers) in the Diaspora do occur to a lesser degree.

In addition to the above, you appear to be ignoring the fact that in a society where 99.5% of the population are non-Sikhs it is statistically highly likely that a certain minority of Sikh females in the West will end up with spouses from a background where both parents of the male spouse are not Sikhs themselves.

The two options thus before the Sangat are:

1.Demographic oblivion by excommunicating all such couples and alienating them away from their local Gurdwara Sangat so that 20% of the Panth is lost each generation until there are hardly any Sikhs left by the end of the century.

2.Accepting those genuine spouses willing to partake in Anand Karaj and matha tek before Guru Sahib - the puratan definition of an average lay sehejdhari Sikh - (and willing to forswear violence and oppression against women as both the Quran and Bible encourage) as new members of the Sikh Panth and their local Gurdwara Sangat

The protests of yesteryear did incalculable damage to the future Growth of the Panth with possibly thousands of couples estranged from the Sikh Panth and their children and ensuing future generations lost from the Panth as a result.