Jaat family adopts Sikhi way of Antim Ardaas!

[shastarSingh]

Many haryana jaats hv become Saabat surat.

Some hv become amritdhari and one Naveen Singh has become Nihang.

But many are becoming sehajdhari and slowly adopting Sikhi customs.

https://www.facebook.com/100050850813377/posts/412811023757255/

[proactive]

This is the best way to bring them over to Sikhi. More and more are realising that their ancestors made the worst mistake possible in the 19th century becoming  part of the Manuvaadi society by joining the Arya Samaj. The Jats of Haryana has like the Jats of Punjab successfully resisted becoming the Shudars within the caste society that the Brahmins offered them. The Arya Samaj offered them 'equality' within their 'casteless' Arya society and they accepted this but all they really received was the exact same Shudar status that their ancestors had rejected over a thousand years ago. The Rajputs of their area still looked down on them as did the higher caste Brahmins.  They now also realise that the only religion that best suits their ethnic and cultural characteristics is Sikhi. It would be impossible to expect that they would all become Amritdhari in a few years, the best way is to increase their attachment to Sikhi with each passing day. The first step has already been taken, they have mentally become accustomed to feeling that they are not Hindus and that they want to become Sikhs. This is the biggest step because everything else stems from this first step, to stop going to the Mandir and to go to the Gurdwara instead, to change the rites of passage from Hindu to Sikh. To go from the Vedic marriage to the Anand Karaj, to go from having a Havan ceremony to having an Akhand Path or Sukhmani Sahib Paath. 

[shastarSingh]

36 minutes ago, proactive said:

This is the best way to bring them over to Sikhi. More and more are realising that their ancestors made the worst mistake possible in the 19th century becoming  part of the Manuvaadi society by joining the Arya Samaj. The Jats of Haryana has like the Jats of Punjab successfully resisted becoming the Shudars within the caste society that the Brahmins offered them. The Arya Samaj offered them 'equality' within their 'casteless' Arya society and they accepted this but all they really received was the exact same Shudar status that their ancestors had rejected over a thousand years ago. The Rajputs of their area still looked down on them as did the higher caste Brahmins.  They now also realise that the only religion that best suits their ethnic and cultural characteristics is Sikhi. It would be impossible to expect that they would all become Amritdhari in a few years, the best way is to increase their attachment to Sikhi with each passing day. The first step has already been taken, they have mentally become accustomed to feeling that they are not Hindus and that they want to become Sikhs. This is the biggest step because everything else stems from this first step, to stop going to the Mandir and to go to the Gurdwara instead, to change the rites of passage from Hindu to Sikh. To go from the Vedic marriage to the Anand Karaj, to go from having a Havan ceremony to having an Akhand Path or Sukhmani Sahib Paath. 

That's right

Unfortunately there are some people who believe that the first thing to do with jaats is to make them amritdhari.

 

[proudkaur21]

14 hours ago, proactive said:

This is the best way to bring them over to Sikhi. More and more are realising that their ancestors made the worst mistake possible in the 19th century becoming  part of the Manuvaadi society by joining the Arya Samaj. The Jats of Haryana has like the Jats of Punjab successfully resisted becoming the Shudars within the caste society that the Brahmins offered them. The Arya Samaj offered them 'equality' within their 'casteless' Arya society and they accepted this but all they really received was the exact same Shudar status that their ancestors had rejected over a thousand years ago. The Rajputs of their area still looked down on them as did the higher caste Brahmins.  They now also realise that the only religion that best suits their ethnic and cultural characteristics is Sikhi. It would be impossible to expect that they would all become Amritdhari in a few years, the best way is to increase their attachment to Sikhi with each passing day. The first step has already been taken, they have mentally become accustomed to feeling that they are not Hindus and that they want to become Sikhs. This is the biggest step because everything else stems from this first step, to stop going to the Mandir and to go to the Gurdwara instead, to change the rites of passage from Hindu to Sikh. To go from the Vedic marriage to the Anand Karaj, to go from having a Havan ceremony to having an Akhand Path or Sukhmani Sahib Paath. 

also these new converts will probably be way better sikhs than those low iq so called sikhs we have in punjab.Atleast these people are trying to learn. Honestly i have no hope in punjabis. Our people are so egoistic its insane. i have said it before and i will say it again. If you dont have the numbers then be clever and do prachaar like muslims and christians do. But no our lot just dont have the intelligence to be strategic. Not all wars have to be physical. Honestly sikhi would be much better if the majority of its followers are not punjabi. idk what it is about our people but we are just not it.We should try to do parachaar in areas adjoining punjab in himachal and haryana and rajasthan. We need to bring areas under influence of sikhi.

[proactive]

57 minutes ago, proudkaur21 said:

also these new converts will probably be way better sikhs than those low iq so called sikhs we have in punjab.Atleast these people are trying to learn. Honestly i have no hope in punjabis. Our people are so egoistic its insane. i have said it before and i will say it again. If you dont have the numbers then be clever and do prachaar like muslims and christians do. But no our lot just dont have the intelligence to be strategic. Not all wars have to be physical. Honestly sikhi would be much better if the majority of its followers are not punjabi. idk what it is about our people but we are just not it.We should try to do parachaar in areas adjoining punjab in himachal and haryana and rajasthan. We need to bring areas under influence of sikhi.

Let's not be too harsh on our people, I doubt that another set of people could have survived the massacres that we suffered in the 18th century and still create an empire where the majority of the population were of the same religion as those who committed the massacres. But you are right, our aim after 1947 should have been to do parchar in all the areas adjoining Punjab because the lesson of 1947 is that no matter how much land you own, it is cold hard numbers that determine whether you have your own country or you just change masters. 

[Premi5]

1 hour ago, proudkaur21 said:

also these new converts will probably be way better sikhs than those low iq so called sikhs we have in punjab.Atleast these people are trying to learn. Honestly i have no hope in punjabis. Our people are so egoistic its insane. i have said it before and i will say it again. If you dont have the numbers then be clever and do prachaar like muslims and christians do. But no our lot just dont have the intelligence to be strategic. Not all wars have to be physical. Honestly sikhi would be much better if the majority of its followers are not punjabi. idk what it is about our people but we are just not it.We should try to do parachaar in areas adjoining punjab in himachal and haryana and rajasthan. We need to bring areas under influence of sikhi.

Good idea, then this new found Sikhi-enthusiasm can spread back to Panjab