Vintage Punjab

[GurjantGnostic]

7 hours ago, ipledgeblue said:

As in, not believing in Dasam Granth being gurbani doesn't mean rejecting all the banis contained within. For example, if someone reads Jaap Sahib and Chaupai Sahib, doesn't mean they believe in Dasam Granth. 

Of course, it also means they can do amrit sanchar with a distorted Chaupai Sahib, since he was responsible for cutting Kabiyo Baach Benti Chaupai.

Side note bro. I've been pondering for a bit. 

So all these "scholars" are comparing Guru Gobind Singh Ji's Bani with that In Dasam Granth, which of course we know is Guru Ji's Bani, but...

What Gurbani are they comparing Dasam Granth to? How much of Maharaja's Bani is verifiable and outside Dasam Granth?

Like to verify Guru Gobind Singh Ji's Bani... wouldn't you have to compare it TO Dasam Granth?

[ipledgeblue]

6 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

What Gurbani are they comparing Dasam Granth to? How much of Maharaja's Bani is verifiable and outside Dasam Granth?

Like to verify Guru Gobind Singh Ji's Bani... wouldn't you have to compare it TO Dasam Granth?

I guess they are comparing to bani in Adi Guru Granth Sahib. which is not really a sensible comparison.

[GurjantGnostic]

6 minutes ago, ipledgeblue said:

I guess they are comparing to bani in Adi Guru Granth Sahib. which is not really a sensible comparison.

Yeah. Forgive forgive me a 1000 times. But.. isn't.. he..he didn't contribute to Guru Granth Sahib Ji.  

Soo..what are they comparing it to?

[Jacfsing2]

1 hour ago, ipledgeblue said:

I guess they are comparing to bani in Adi Guru Granth Sahib. which is not really a sensible comparison.

There’s no 10th Gurus bani in Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji though. Also, there’s some bani in Guru Granth Sahib that’s Bir ras focused and some in Dasam Granth that’s Prem Ras focused. 

[GurjantGnostic]

So they're comparing Dasam Granth most likely to Dasam Granth, to make sure it all adheres to the conventions their little manmats have applied to it in terms of pattern and style, then squabbled over the one percent that didn't adhere necessarily to their understanding? Marvelous. And this divides the Paanth some? Lol.

So glad most of the Paanth fully accepts and understands the roles of the various Granths and Vaaran and appreciate them all respectively, as well as respect all Guru Sahiban from Guru Nanak Dev Ji to Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaja to Guru Granth Sahib Ji and the Khalsa Paanth. We are very lucky to majorly be seeing mostly eye to eye on those issues these days. 

Those not in accordance with the above and Rehit, usually seem to be those outside ill intentioned influences. 

[Jacfsing2]

8 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

So they're comparing Dasam Granth most likely to Dasam Granth, to make sure it all adheres to the conventions their little manmats have applied to it in terms of pattern and style, then squabbled over the one percent that didn't adhere necessarily to their understanding? Marvelous. And this divides the Paanth some? Lol.

So glad most of the Paanth fully accepts and understands the roles of the various Granths and Vaaran and appreciate them all respectively, as well as respect all Guru Sahiban from Guru Nanak Dev Ji to Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaja to Guru Granth Sahib Ji and the Khalsa Paanth. We are very lucky to majorly be seeing mostly eye to eye on those issues these days. 

Those not in accordance with the above and Rehit, usually seem to be those outside ill intentioned influences. 

There’s one preacher going around who’s denying the Vaaran; who seems to be corrupting the youth. (Dharam Singh Nihang).

[GurjantGnostic]

4 hours ago, Jacfsing2 said:

There’s one preacher going around who’s denying the Vaaran; who seems to be corrupting the youth. (Dharam Singh Nihang).

The second I saw his image I was like "ohhh himm.. that's right...grumble"

[ipledgeblue]

18 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Yeah. Forgive forgive me a 1000 times. But.. isn't.. he..he didn't contribute to Guru Granth Sahib Ji.  

Soo..what are they comparing it to?

Actually there was a very small amount of bani which Guru Gobind Singh wrote as Gobind Rai, but this was corrected by Guru Tegh Bahadur first and is included with Salok Mahalla 9

[ipledgeblue]

16 hours ago, Jacfsing2 said:

There’s one preacher going around who’s denying the Vaaran; who seems to be corrupting the youth. (Dharam Singh Nihang).

I don't see why he would be denying the Vaaran? Is there a video, or maybe this is a misunderstanding of some viewers?

[Jacfsing2]

4 minutes ago, ipledgeblue said:

I don't see why he would be denying the Vaaran? Is there a video, or maybe this is a misunderstanding of some viewers?

He made an entire series called "Gurmat Vs Vaaran Bhai Gurdas"