Simran Karan vale monaas!

[dallysingh101]

1 hour ago, shastarSingh said:

But it's really inspiring to see monaas doing simran.

I think simran is really sublime, and one can and does easily fall off. A person just simply being admired for it, can get derailed.  You know how this is likely to feed haumai.  

It's like the game snakes and ladders, it can take years to reach a certain stage, then something comes along and takes you down 10 stages. 

[Jacfsing2]

15 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

I think simran is really sublime, and one can and does easily fall off. A person just simply being admired for it, can get derailed.  You know how this is likely to feed haumai.  

It's like the game snakes and ladders, it can take years to reach a certain stage, then something comes along and takes you down 10 stages. 

That’s true, Haumai makes even the greatest Sikhs fall. 

[shastarSingh]

2 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

That’s true, Haumai makes even the greatest Sikhs fall. 

Yes it's a subtle game.

One shud remain dust of all while doing simran.

There was a great amritdhari in Ludhiana who was doing 5-6 hours of amritvela for about 50 years.

But to the surprise of the Sangat, in the last 10 years of his life, he wasted his time in buying and selling plots. May be he was caught in moh(attachment) of his grand children. He was already rich but he wanted to make more assets for his grand children.

[Premi5]

4 hours ago, shastarSingh said:

Anyone else know or met a monaa who is into simran and gurbani?

Remember Giani Thakur Singh jee's katha a few years back, he mentioned a mona from UK who was doing several hours simran daily

[shastarSingh]

5 minutes ago, Premi5 said:

Remember Giani Thakur Singh jee's katha a few years back, he mentioned a mona from UK who was doing several hours simran daily

Yes thanks to Giani thakur Singh ji,lots of sangat including monaas hv started doing brahm kavach.

What a Bani brahm kavach is!

Modern powerful scientific weapons are zero in front of the power of Brahm Kavach.

[Jai Tegang!]

Have to treat people with respect and dignity to build brotherhood, and this applies to both monas and keshadharis, as certain ego driven people from both categories love to deride and ridicule the other.

From the keshadhari/Amritdhari side effort has to be made to not exclude and push away the monas. Then there are some monay who tend to show no respect for Sikhi saroop and undermine its importance with ridicule or even hostility.

What brings both categories together is loyalty towards Sikhi and devotion towards Guru maharaj. Sometimes what you have is a mona sikh who has excelled in so many areas of sikhi, like seva Simran, Gurbani path, virtuous lifestyle, that all they are really missing is the Saroop. And the flip side may be the case for a bekhi keshadhari sikh. So looks can be deceiving!

I also liked Gyani Takhur Singh’s approach. He always pushed for Simran,Shabad, Gurbani abhyiaas and never pushed for only the outer saroop. The gurdwaras were packed with monay and singhs, all sitting side by side and passionately doing Gurmantar Mool Mantar abhyiaas.

[Premi5]

9 minutes ago, Jai Tegang! said:

Have to treat people with respect and dignity to build brotherhood, and this applies to both monas and keshadharis, as certain ego driven people from both categories love to deride and ridicule the other.

From the keshadhari/Amritdhari side effort has to be made to not exclude and push away the monas. Then there are some monay who tend to show no respect for Sikhi saroop and undermine its importance with ridicule or even hostility.

What brings both categories together is loyalty towards Sikhi and devotion towards Guru maharaj. Sometimes what you have is a mona sikh who has excelled in so many areas of sikhi, like seva Simran, Gurbani path, virtuous lifestyle, that all they are really missing is the Saroop. And the flip side may be the case for a bekhi keshadhari sikh. So looks can be deceiving!

I also liked Gyani Takhur Singh’s approach. He always pushed for Simran,Shabad, Gurbani abhyiaas and never pushed for only the outer saroop. The gurdwaras were packed with monay and singhs, all sitting side by side and passionately doing Gurmantar Mool Mantar abhyiaas.

Agree

Also, Giani Thakur Singh Jee does strongly emphasise importance of Amrit, consistently in katha and does occasionally chastise those who don't keep rehit

[shastarSingh]

12 minutes ago, Jai Tegang! said:

Then there are some monay who tend to show no respect for Sikhi saroop and undermine its importance with ridicule or even hostility.

U missed one category. 

Monaas don't claim to be true Sikhs but there are keshadharis who claim to be true Sikhs but reject the importance of amrit and punj kakaar.

Such keshadharis r more dangerous than monaas who ridicule sikhi Sarup.

[Premi5]

4 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:

U missed one category. 

Monaas don't claim to be true Sikhs but there are keshadharis who claim to be true Sikhs but reject the importance of amrit and punj kakaar.

Such keshadharis r more dangerous than monaas who ridicule sikhi Sarup.

You are sort of saying it's better to be either mona or Amritdhari. Many Sikhs are in-between

[shastarSingh]

1 minute ago, Premi5 said:

You are sort of saying it's better to be either mona or Amritdhari. Many Sikhs are in-between

No I don't mean that.

Hair is a great gift of God and it's excellent to be keshadhari.

I m saying that keshadharis who claim to be true Sikhs but reject the importance of amrit and punj kakaar end up doing greater damage to panth than monaas.