Why Panjabis learn Bhangra in the west

[5aaban]

2 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

It's a shame though, because many don't understand and think others are being 'killjoys' or 'kattar'. They don't get the reasons why. They think it's harmless. 

Experienced being called that first hand by Bhangra-doing people. 

[dallysingh101]

47 minutes ago, 5aaban said:

Experienced being called first hand by Bhangra-doing people. 

I'll be honest sis. I did bhangra. Went to gigs as a youngun. And at uni (due to friends pressure and meeting other Sikhs in appreciable numbers for the first time). I thought: 'This is my culture!'

It's just once you realise what's going on, your whole mind-set towards it changes. It's not only putting girls up as exhibits and vulnerable to predators, its also the whole getting plastered out of your head by the blokes too.

Then the potential for internal violence shoots up too. In all of this, we have very devious, predators watching it all.  

The whole casteism promotion too. Which has gone well out of hand. 

[justasking]

most of the guys and girls tht danced bhangra competitions were fuddus ngl

[dallysingh101]

37 minutes ago, justasking said:

most of the guys and girls tht danced bhangra competitions were fuddus ngl

I really thank our Guru Sahiban for giving me an alternative, beautiful and deep culture to all this. 

At least we have an escape route out of it. 

[5aaban]

On 2/1/2022 at 8:15 AM, dallysingh101 said:

I'll be honest sis. I did bhangra. Went to gigs as a youngun. And at uni (due to friends pressure and meeting other Sikhs in appreciable numbers for the first time). I thought: 'This is my culture!'

It's just once you realise what's going on, your whole mind-set towards it changes. It's not only putting girls up as exhibits and vulnerable to predators, its also the whole getting plastered out of your head by the blokes too.

Then the potential for internal violence shoots up too. In all of this, we have very devious, predators watching it all.  

The whole casteism promotion too. Which has gone well out of hand. 

I was asked to attend Bhangra classes but I refused. 

[dallysingh101]

2 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

I'll be honest sis. I did bhangra. Went to gigs as a youngun. And at uni (due to friends pressure and meeting other Sikhs in appreciable numbers for the first time). I thought: 'This is my culture!'

It's just once you realise what's going on, your whole mind-set towards it changes. It's not only putting girls up as exhibits and vulnerable to predators, its also the whole getting plastered out of your head by the blokes too.

Then the potential for internal violence shoots up too. In all of this, we have very devious, predators watching it all.  

The whole casteism promotion too. Which has gone well out of hand. 

It's good street guys went to these things. They are the ones who first clocked onto what was going on. 

[dallysingh101]

12 minutes ago, 5aaban said:

I was told to join Bhangra classes ages ago by some aunties and uncles but I refused. 

Never had any classes, just went to some gigs. But my specific generation were there mainly to hear DJs getting creative in the mix rather than the bands.  

I didn't go to that many.  Couldn't afford it. Buying a ticket was a big deal. Some people went 'religiously'. But it was actually guys during my uni time that started challenging what was going on in the south of england. Birmingham/Midland soldiers were the first to recognise and try and tackle the issue way before that. They opened everyone's eyes. 

I don't think we had many of those 'professional stage bhangra-dancers' like I see in Canada (none I can remember). 

[dallysingh101]

What I find really disheartening is the side-lining of Khalsa ithihaas and all 1699 stood for, replaced by a simplistic 'harvest festival' narrative. 

That's where we miss the greatest opportunity to teach youth about their true dharmic roots.  

[5aaban]

5 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

What I find really disheartening is the side-lining of Khalsa ithihaas and all 1699 stood for, replaced by a simplistic 'harvest festival' narrative. 

That's where we miss the greatest opportunity to teach youth about their true dharmic roots.  

The 'Harvest festival' narrative has been debunked fortunately, Bhangra was never performed on "Harvest day". Sikh history should take precedence over Bhangra. I once saw a post on Bhangra being done during a Nagar Kirtan in Southall. 

[dallysingh101]

9 minutes ago, 5aaban said:

The 'Harvest festival' narrative has been debunked fortunately, Bhangra was never performed on "Harvest day". Sikh history should take precedence over Bhangra. I once saw a post on Bhangra being done during a Nagar Kirtan in Southall. 

Come on. Till recently, there was a lot of confusion between Sikh culture and Panjabi culture. Many people are still confused even now. That's a main task right now. Guru ji de kirpa naal people will start to learn. 

We need to utilise all media like songs, movies, videos, social media to consistently educate concurrently.