Dirty alliance of bjp and badals

[Kau89r8 2,205]

 

[proactive 4,128]

10 hours ago, Kau89r8 said:

How much longer can he keep going. He was going to retire and give it to Deep. My heart breaks but then i keep saying whats the point getting so emotionally riled up.  

Whats your thoughts on AAP? Predictions worst case scenarios? 

Also are you glad badals, capt and finished for good in Punjab?

I think you are being unduly pessimistic. The ideal situation would have been if Simranjit Singh Mann and all his candidates had won but the AAP wave which wasn't really a AAP wave as such it was more of a wave for change. AAP had positioned itself into that narrative as being the only party of change and as such they got the votes. Simranjit Singh Mann and his party in 2015 had the perfect opportunity to become the change even if it was just in the Panthic circles but they did not groundwork. AAP in 2017 and after had become a joke, it was breaking apart and that would have been the opportunity for Simranjit Singh Mann's party to take over the vacant place but again, no groundwork. Deep Sidhu was able to set up his organisation, Waris Punjab De in a short amount of time and he was able to gather like minded youth and yet Simranjit Singh Mann has never done this. You cannot expect to win elections when the only time you are around is at election time. You need to do the ground work. The youth did the ground work during the elections and especially after Deep Sidhu's shahidi and look at how close they came to ensuring a win for Simranjit Singh Mann. The ground work was being done by the youth. Even up to election day, Waris Punjab De according to reports were getting phone calls from all over Punjab from the youth asking who the SAD(A) candidates were in their areas because they were not even aware that there were any standing in their areas! This just shows just how much ground work had not been done in the time prior to the election. We also need to understand that there are forces within the Panthic side who are either naive or who aim to sabotage the movement from within. Look at Dal Khalsa, they want Khalistan but they do not want to take part in elections BUT also they have rejected the armed struggle. These are the only two avenues that exist for national liberation movements. By rejecting both they have ensured that they are only good for making statements and handing memorandums at the DC office! They want to reject the legitimacy of the state by rejecting elections and yet they give memorandums to the functionaries of the state! 

To the elections

These elections have shown two things-;

1. Unlike previous occasions when our people showed anger towards a party especially the Badal Akalis but then they always went back to support them after a few years, this had changed. The Beadbi issue and the Bargari killings are still issues whereas in previous times we would have quickly forgotten about these after some time. The Panthic vote that the Badal Akalis lost to AAP in 2017 was mostly in Malwa but this time they lost the Panthic vote to AAP all over Punjab. That vote in still Panthic so the next time that vote is there to be won by a Panthic party. These people haven't suddenly become Lalas and leftists. The Badal Akali Dal is finished for sure. There now needs to be a new realignment, Simranjit Singh Mann needs to now work with the youth especially Waris Punjab De to start doing the groundwork for possibly the Lok Sabha election to Sangrur constituency which Bhagwant Mann will need to resign as MP from in order to become CM. It might be too early to win that seat but he needs a good showing and with the possible AAP candidate not having the same profile as Bhagwant Mann, Simranjit Singh Mann needs to consolidate his party's 110,000 votes in the Sangrur constituency and increase these with the help of the youth. Again, the ground work has to be done. 

2. AAP has never been tested in government, in Delhi Kejriwal is able to use the excuse that he does not have full state powers for his failures. Punjab will be the true test of the governing ability. Let's see if he can keep his promises. As for the Panth, the fact that there are according to my count the religion wise break up of the MLAs in Punjab, this shows that Sikhs are still the vast majority of the MLAs.

Congress - Sikhs  13 - Hindus 5     72% Sikh MLAs.

AAP  - Sikhs 73 - Hindus 12  - Muslim 1     79% Sikh MLAs

Akali Dal - Sikhs 2  - Hindu /Dalit 1   66% Sikh MLAs

BJP - Sikhs 0 - Hindus 2   0% Sikh MLAs

BSP - Dalit/Hindu - 1  0% Sikh MLAs

Independent - Sikh 1    100% Sikh MLAs

This means that in the Punjab Vidhan Sabha of 2022,  Sikhs will be 88 out of 117 MLAs or 75%

This is one of the positives of the elections, all those leftists and Hindus claiming that the AAP win was for a secular Punjab don't have a clue about what is going on in Punjab. The Panthic vote wanted to defeat the Badal Akalis which they did and they wanted to keep the BJP out which they did. The Punjabi Hindu and leftist dream of a Hindu CM is dead. The rejection of those Sikhs who stood on the BJP ticket shows just how exaggerated and hollow the claim of the BJP to have won over Sikhs in Punjab was. 

Any Sikh who wants the best for the Panth needs to look at the facts and not get carried away by the propaganda of our enemies. The BJP Lalas before the elections were claiming online that a vote for AAP was a vote for Khalistan. After AAP won they changed their tune and now are claiming that Khalistanis lost because the 'Indian Sikhs' voted for a Hindu from Delhi to be their leader!! 

It is sad that Simranjit Singh Mann lost but true revolutions are not forged in a few days, the ground work that the youth did has to be replicated many fold in the coming years before we will see a Panthic Akali Dal win by the same numbers as AAP did. With the Punjab political scene so fragmented, all that is needed is for Panthic Sikhs to not only re-create a Panthic Akali Dal minus the Badals but also to take back the SGPC from the Badals. 

 

[proactive 4,128]

Of those Sikhs in the Punjab Vidhan Sabha we have a higher calibre of Panthic type Sikhs than the fakes like the Badals, Majithias, Captains and others.  

Now no Hindu Har.amzada can say that we Sikhs voted Congress into power in Punjab when it was them that committed genocide on us even though Captain won 2017 on majority Hindu votes and the Sikh vote was split between Akalis and AAP and only a minority of Sikhs voted for Congress. 

 

 

[shastarSingh 3,469]

Tikait says bjp manipulated EVM machines to win in UP.

[shastarSingh 3,469]

I have also heard that majithia and captain amrinder made sure navjot sidhu looses in Amritsar Sahib.

[proactive 4,128]

1 hour ago, shastarSingh said:

I have also heard that majithia and captain amrinder made sure navjot sidhu looses in Amritsar Sahib.

If you have the power to ensure that someone loses in their constituency then surely you also have the power to ensure that you will get elected in your own constituency. 

The only positive about Navjot Sidhu is that he pretty much destroyed Congress in the only state that it was able to win power in 2017 because of the division of opposition votes. 

[MisterrSingh 8,423]

^^^ Look at the state of them. Obese; shifty-eyed, dastaars tied like one of those moneh guys who wears a pagg for the first time at his sister's wedding or something.

[californiasardar1 967]

1 hour ago, MisterrSingh said:

^^^ Look at the state of them. Obese; shifty-eyed, dastaars tied like one of those moneh guys who wears a pagg for the first time at his sister's wedding or something.

lol

There are dozens of things one can and should criticize about Sidhu. But you are going after his pagh? Really? He actually ties a very nice pagh.

Amarinder, on the other hand, ties a consistently sloppy one ...

[MisterrSingh 8,423]

8 minutes ago, californiasardar1 said:

lol

There are dozens of things one can and should criticize about Sidhu. But you are going after his pagh? Really? He actually ties a very nice pagh.

Amarinder, on the other hand, ties a consistently sloppy one ...

Maybe it's the angle of the photograph?

[shastarSingh 3,469]

3 hours ago, proactive said:

If you have the power to ensure that someone loses in their constituency then surely you also have the power to ensure that you will get elected in your own constituency. 

The only positive about Navjot Sidhu is that he pretty much destroyed Congress in the only state that it was able to win power in 2017 because of the division of opposition votes. 

Majithia never stands from amritsar. He stood from Amritsar and made his wife stand from majithia area.

Captain also used his links in Amritsar to lower down sidhu's vote percentage.

[proactive 4,128]

15 hours ago, shastarSingh said:

Majithia never stands from amritsar. He stood from Amritsar and made his wife stand from majithia area.

Captain also used his links in Amritsar to lower down sidhu's vote percentage.

There is always a factor of sabotaging in elections in India. Parties will pay people who have the same names as their opponents to stand as independents so that some of the confused supporters of the opposing party will vote for the independent in error. If a former MLA who was useless does not get selected to stand by his party and someone else nominated then that person will get his supporters to vote against his own party to prevent the election of the new candidate.

The way the wave for change was, it is a moot point whether Captain or Majithia's political games had much affect on Navjot Sidhu's loss. 

[Kau89r8 2,205]

On 3/11/2022 at 10:44 AM, proactive said:

 

Now no Hindu Har.amzada can say that we Sikhs voted Congress into power in Punjab when it was them that committed genocide on us even though Captain won 2017 on majority Hindu votes and the Sikh vote was split between Akalis and AAP and only a minority of Sikhs voted for Congress. 

 

 

He was playing the 'Khalistani terrorist' game in 2017 that capt aloo. I remember how they set up Jagmeet in Canada, trudea visit in India and accused supporting 'Khalistani terrorists'

At least those who believed him can now see what a rss sanagi he is.

im glad badals all lost. I hope they f' off from the edge of this world. 

Its how muslims feel now with BJP winning in states, is exactly how Sikh felt when all of india voted congress after 84

I can only hope bhagwant maan is at least somewhat panthic and does not bend down, Hope he release those prisoner, jaggi ..but dont want to get my hopes too high.

What are the chances they will bring the farm laws back again? 

[Kau89r8 2,205]

@proactive

[proudkaur21 2,113]

8 minutes ago, Kau89r8 said:

He was playing the 'Khalistani terrorist' game in 2017 that capt aloo. I remember how they set up Jagmeet in Canada, trudea visit in India and accused supporting 'Khalistani terrorists'

At least those who believed him can now see what a rss sanagi he is.

im glad badals all lost. I hope they f' off from the edge of this world. 

Its how muslims feel now with BJP winning in states, is exactly how Sikh felt when all of india voted congress after 84

I can only hope bhagwant maan is at least somewhat panthic and does not bend down, Hope he release those prisoner, jaggi ..but dont want to get my hopes too high.

What are the chances they will bring the farm laws back again? 

They insulted Trudeau so much and were acting so snobby during his entire visit. What do these people think of themselves?

[dallysingh101 7,299]

So are things going to start improving in Panjab now?