Do Sants Exist?

[SunSingh]

Unfortunately, these days people keep saying that the only sant is Guru Granth Sahib ji, despite the fact that Gurbani calls the individuals Bhagat Prahlaad ji and Bhagat Kabir ji as sants. It's crystal clear that sants exist from Gurbani, yet people keep lying about it (or haven't read Gurbani and just keep promoting the ideology that they have been taught). It's extremely disrespectful to Gurbani.

So I would like all those who believe that sants don't exist to come out and prove, using Gurbani, that sants do not exist. Perhaps all the nindya and issues can be settled once and for all. (although i doubt it)

[akal sahai]

this seems like a good discussion........

[Ramneet Singh]

I don't think it's that people don't beleive in sants. I think its the fact that it is really easy to tag someone as a "sant", even though they might not be living the lifestyle. I know sants do exist but don't have the the kamaeee to point them out.

This part of sukhmani sahib is amazing

bRhm igAwnI kI kImiq nwih ]

breham giaanee kee keemath naahi ||

The God-conscious being cannot be appraised.

bRhm igAwnI kY sgl mn mwih ]

breham giaanee kai sagal man maahi ||

The God-conscious being has all within his mind.

bRhm igAwnI kw kaun jwnY Bydu ]

breham giaanee kaa koun jaanai bhaedh ||

Who can know the mystery of the God-conscious being?

bRhm igAwnI kau sdw Adysu ]

breham giaanee ko sadhaa adhaes ||

Forever bow to the God-conscious being.

bRhm igAwnI kw kiQAw n jwie ADwK´ru ]

breham giaanee kaa kathhiaa n jaae adhhaakhyar ||

The God-conscious being cannot be described in words.

bRhm igAwnI srb kw Twkuru ]

breham giaanee sarab kaa t(h)aakur ||

The God-conscious being is the Lord and Master of all.

bRhm igAwnI kI imiq kaunu bKwnY ]

breham giaanee kee mith koun bakhaanai ||

Who can describe the limits of the God-conscious being?

bRhm igAwnI kI giq bRhm igAwnI jwnY ]

breham giaanee kee gath breham giaanee jaanai ||

Only the God-conscious being can know the state of the God-conscious being.

bRhm igAwnI kw AMqu n pwru ]

breham giaanee kaa a(n)th n paar ||

The God-conscious being has no end or limitation.

nwnk bRhm igAwnI kau sdw nmskwru ]7]

naanak breham giaanee ko sadhaa namasakaar ||7||

O Nanak, to the God-conscious being, bow forever in reverence. ||7||

http://www.sikhitothemax.com/page.asp?ShabadID=941

[TejiKaur]

o waheguru

they have to exist

God runs this world for his saints

[kaur_khalistani_lioness]

o waheguru

they have to exist

God runs this world for his saints

wjkk wjkf!!

just a thought and i could be very wrong

could it be:

God runs this world through his saints if u know what i mean? :umm:

im still learning so forgive me for my foolishness

akal sahai

wjkk wjkf!

[Guru_Da_Chella]

Unfortunately, these days people keep saying that the only sant is Guru Granth Sahib ji, despite the fact that Gurbani calls the individuals Bhagat Prahlaad ji and Bhagat Kabir ji as sants. It's crystal clear that sants exist from Gurbani, yet people keep lying about it (or haven't read Gurbani and just keep promoting the ideology that they have been taught). It's extremely disrespectful to Gurbani.

So I would like all those who believe that sants don't exist to come out and prove, using Gurbani, that sants do not exist. Perhaps all the nindya and issues can be settled once and for all. (although i doubt it)

Sants don't exist for an organisation that only wants to teach its own brand of sikhi.

Since most regular types of sants teach tolerance, it isn't possible for some organisations to let their "members" follow sants.

[lovekhalistan]

These questions are answered in Katha Sukhmani Sahib by Giani Thakur Singh Ji

[sarabpreet]

sant do exist but not like the these bane chole wale sant with bodygaurds having ak47 with them. sant exist in the joothe pandean di sewa wich, sangtan de jorian di sewa wich, nimrta,garibi,mithbolre and dont mixup easily with anyone, koi bekh nai banaya hunda.

[Heera Singh]

These questions are answered in Katha Sukhmani Sahib by Giani Thakur Singh Ji

can you provide the link, please?

[singh_bling]

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nwmu rihE swDU rihE rihE guru goibMdu ]

naam rehiou saadhoo rehiou rehiou gur gobindh

The Naam remains; the Holy Saints remain; the Guru, the Lord of the Universe, remains.

khu nwnk ieh jgq mY ikn jipE gur mMqu ]56]

kuhu naanuk eih juguth mai kin japiou gur munth

Says Nanak, how rare are those who chant the Guru's Mantra in this world. ||56||