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Somebody didn't take his anger management pills. Bhai Amrik SIngh ji is telling us everything what is happening and this poster named chatanga is trying to squash it as it never happened. Who should we believe a Singh who is doing seva in India by upholding respect for Maharaj or a poster named chatanga who can't understand punjabi, needs anger management classes, and is sitting thousands of miles away on his comfortable chair and doesn't know what is taking place. You don't need a calculator for this one chatanga. Bhai Amrik Singh ji in blunt simple english for people like you to understand says Dhumma is anti-Panthic. Bhai Amrik Singh ji says further that Dhumma is shameless to go to their dera in secret. The weasel on this forum is you. Who says Bhai Amrik Singh ji is the man and then go against Bhai Amrik Singh ji's words in the next second. In your next life Sri Vaheguru Ji Maharaj will bless you with five faces..........he won't leave you with your two faced obvious lies. Just to show how biased and cunning you are..............Bhai Amrik Singh ji says if Badals family dog dies, then in a second the fake so called Jathedars and other leaders run to mourn Badals loss. But not even a single sgpc member has shown up at the Gurdwara where such horrible Beadbi has taken place. If a father doesn't even send his servant to take concern of what took place, in all your faces what makes you think he will go himself? I said it before and i will say it again............don't waste time on Chatanga.............he is a chela of these corrupt leaders. Chela have more faces than the leaders themselves.

Priceless, Divine Diamonds - XI Sriman Sant Isher Singh Ji Maharaj Rara Sahib Wale 61. Four means to blissful life 1. Dispassion (Vairãg · ਵੈਰਾਗ) 2. Patience - (Dhīraj · ਧੀਰਜ) 3. Contentment - (Sanṯokẖ · ਸੰਤੋਖ) 4. Enquiry (Vīchār · ਵੀਚਾਰ) These four means are highly fruitful for the attainment of highest spiritual wisdom (brahmgyān - ਬ੍ਰਹਮਗਿਆਨ), and for living a blissful life. It is essential for serious seekers to retain them in their minds. 1. Dispassion - (Vairãg · ਵੈਰਾਗ) — Constant awareness of the fact that the entire physical world, and everything in it, is perishable and therefore is cause of suffering. 2. Forbearance - (Dhīraj · ਧੀਰਜ) — All forms of life undergo moments of pain, pleasure and difficulty, etc. To be able to live blissfully, one should face these phases with patience. 3. Contentment - (Sanṯokẖ · ਸੰਤੋਖ) — One should remain content with whatever one has been preordinated in this life (Prārbadha · ਪ੍ਰਾਰਭਧ); to be free from desire for 'more'. 4. Enquiry - (Vīchār · ਵੀਚਾਰ) — Self-Enquiry and Wisdom are both the same thing. Enquiry involves discrimination between the Real and the unreal; reflection on the unreal nature of the world about us, and that everything, whether it is within or beyond the reach of the sense organs, is nothing but physical manifestation of the Formless One. When such realisation takes place in the intellect, the only entity that remains then is the Non-dual, Formless source of Supreme Bliss that is unaffected by any modifications of the mind. In this state, the wise one (Gyānī) sees himself pervading in everything, and everything in himself. The establishment in this unshakable state is called 'Samādhī' - I am Everything. ॥ Nirvikalpohaṅ(g) ॥ 62. Bodiless state while living A clay pitcher is nothing but moulded clay. In the same way, the physical body is nothing else but Self (Atmā). Intrinstic nature of the body - birth, death, pleasure, pain, sadness, respect, dishonour, profit, loss, etc. are mere forms of the Self. But Self (Atmā) is free from all modifications. Therefore, nothing else exists apart from the One that is beyond modifications. One that possesses this wisdom is liberated while living, as there is no identification with the body; in such a state only Self (Atmā) exists. ~ NirVikalpa Samādhī ~ Controlling the Horse-like Mind Put reins of enquiry on the horse-like mind, and place on it a firm saddle of concentration. Fasten that saddle with control of the sense organs. Repeatedly smack the chattery back of that horse with the whip of spiritual practice (Abhyās). Make it take steps of devotion on the path to salvation, cross the stages of attentive listening (Shravaṇa) and contemplation (Manana), and finally establish it in the temple of profound meditation (Nidhyāsana). With spontaneity, increase the Spiritual practice and realise the true Self. Live physical life this way — perpetually intoxicated in Spiritual bliss, and achieve disembodied salvation once the preordained karams (Prãrbadha) end; this is the sole purpose of human life. 63. Sãs Grãs (Prāṇa Apāṇa) The physical body remains alive as long as Prāṇa operates in it, and dies when the knot of Prāṇa is opened, i.e., when it leaves the body. Prāṇa and Apāṇa are vital airs. Prāṇa arises from the heart and expands outwardly up to a distance equivalent to approximately twelve fingers, then returns back to the heart in the form of Apāṇa where it changes back into Prāṇa, and the cycle continues. There is also a small cessation between a Prāṇa Apāṇa cycle, which is known as Kumbhaka. This is how the movement of vital airs happens in the body. This very movement (also known as Sãs Grãs) is the instrument with which Simran takes place. Essence of Vedānta ਸਰਬ ਰੂਪ ਸਭ ਤੇ ਪਰੇ, ਮਮ ਸਰੂਪ ਹੈ ਸੋਇ ॥ ਯਹੀ ਸਾਰ ਸਿਧਾਂਤ ਹੈ, ਤਿਸ ਬਿਨ ਅਵਰ ਨ ਕੋਇ ॥ Sarab rūp sabh tē parē, mam sarūp hai sō'e ॥ Yahī sār sidhānt hai, tis bin avar na kō'e. ॥ 1. Nirgun form — There are absolutely no thoughts or desires in (my) Self (Atmā); only thing that exists is a state of Samādhi where there is no mind, knowledge, knower or the known whatsoever. 2. Sargun form — The physical manifestations are nothing more a projection of (my) Self (Atmā). Just like a dreamer who takes on different forms in his dreams, the Self, with the power of Māyā and ignorance, appears fragmented in myriads of forms about us. In reality however, these forms are nothing but the same indivisible Self. Therefore, one and many both are the same Self only. 64. Two Aspects — Nishedh Pakẖ and Vidhān Pakẖ 1. Nishedh Aspect (ਨਿਸ਼ੇਧ ਪੱਖ) ­— In this form of enquiry, attributes of body and Self are observed separately – Physical body is untrue, insentient, fragmented and is form of suffering, whereas the Self (Atmā) is existence, knowledge, bliss and is Absolute. Such enquiry elevates awareness from the level of name and form (Nām-Rūpa) and moves it towards the Absolute. However – 2. Vidhān Aspect (ਵਿਧਾਨ ਪੱਖ) — In this, duality totally vanishes. Pitcher is nothing but clay, waves of the ocean are nothing but water, and ornaments are nothing but gold. Similarly, cause and effect, Self and body, these are only aspects of the same form. The Self is beyond past, present and future. At the highest stage, all sorts of fragmentation ─ body, world, mind etc. disappear, duality is completely annihilated and the Self (Atmã) is the only entity that pervades. Cause is always prevalent in its effect. Like, water is the cause and wave its effect. Similarly, the Abosulte (Brahm) is the cause and world is its effect. Therefore, the Absolute is always present in all physical manifestations. This universe cannot exist or sustain itself without the Absolute. Whatever action and reaction that occurs happens in the realm of the Absolute, and thus is nothing more than its own form. It is Non-Dual, Formless, Supreme Bliss, and free from all modifications. It is Samãdhī. 65. Self is beyond all Action Self (Atmā) has absolutely no connection with action. Action, or duty, is connected with: 1. Physical manifestations (Asthūl Sarīr · ਅਸਥੂਲ ਸਰੀਰ) 2. Fourfold internal organ - Mind (Mann), intellect (Buddh), subconcious mind (Chitt), and ego (Ahaṅkār) (Antahkarṇa · ਅੰਤਹਕਰਣ) 3. Organs of senses and actions ( Sabh Indrē · ਸਭ ਇੰਦਰੇ) 4. Controller of these senses (Indriyoṅ Ke Devtā · ਇੰਦਰਿਓਂ ਕੇ ਦੇਵਤਾ) 5. Preordained actions (Prārbhadha · ਪ੍ਰਾਰਭਧ) A combination of these five causes action. However, the Self (Atmā) is totally detached from all these and is self-existent. The body will last as long as preordained actions remain, and will end with the end of these assigned actions. The Self, which is my true reality, will forever remain established in its innate Supreme bliss. … to be continued … Link to Part I - Priceless, Divine Diamonds - Part I Link to Part II - Priceless, Divine Diamonds - Part II Link to Part III - Priceless, Divine Diamonds - Part III Link to Part IV - Priceless, Divine Diamonds - Part IV Link to Part V - Priceless, Divine Diamonds - Part V Link to Part VI - Priceless, Divine Diamonds - Part VI Link to Part VII - Priceless, Divine Diamonds - Part VII Link to Part VIII - Priceless, Divine Diamonds - Part VIII Link to Part IX - Priceless, Divine Diamonds - Part IX Link to Part X - Priceless, Divine Diamonds - Part X Guru Roop Sangat Jeo please forgive this moorakh for all the mistakes in the post :waheguru: Gurfateh!

Yes, nobody can stop Dhumma from sucking up to Badal. It is a shame that he is occupying the same position that was once occupied by Sant Baba Jarnail Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindrawale

Benti to admin to not allow foul language on this forum. This is a Sikh forum that should try and uphold the values of Guru Granth Sahib. When Gursikhs communicate with each other they always speak with pyaar and respect even if they disagree with each other. Resorting to name calling and swear words is not right and should not be allowed on this forum. It does not set a good example especially to the youth who I am sure read this forum. It is disappointing that we cannot communicate with pyaar, we are all children of Guru Sahib and although we have differences of opinon we are chele of the same Guru, Dhan Guru Nanak Dev ji.

Let's start again. I (the emphasis being on I with the expectation that my personal views are respected as everyone is entitled to their own harmless view) go to the Gurdwara any time of the day and any time of the month and year. I respect Harmandir Sahib rules that women cannot do sewa in certain places etc and if this is because women menstruate then I respect that reason as well if that is the reason. Therefore, if I am on my cycle I will choose to continue to do langar sewa but will choose not to do chaur sahib sewa at the Gurdwara. No one has insulted anyone's sisters. I was being accused of that simply for having an opinion on a topic which we are all openly to discuss. There is no research to be done. If I don't feel 'clean' then I apologise from the bottom of my heart for feeling that way. Read carefully, I have been saying throughout that you assume Kully. You seem to just turn it back on me. LOL about the placenta. I won't go into detail about where the blood comes out of you do your research there. I stated an opinion now please let's get over it and in English class we were always taught not to use exclamation marks as they would suggest that you are shouting but that's also a teacher's opinion which is irrelevant.

That is not true. I have read books by Bhai Veer Singh Jee, Giani Ditt Singh Jee and no where have I found such christian influences. The Singh Sabha was a Sikh revival movement, not a Sikh reform movement.

'Radha Swami' "Guru" Baba Sawan eats his own <banned word filter activated>!!!www.youtube.comTruth of how baba sawan 'singh' guru of radha swami cult used black magic to attract and control followers absolutely disgusting

Although Dhuma has some kamai and seva, more than myself, he still is not the jathedar of DDT. He lied, said Sant ji is alive to get kursi, and then once he was given it he said sant ji is shaheed. He couldn't even live and let live with those who have a different opinion on the matter. The taksali singhs that believed in Baba Thakur Singh ji's bachan were beaten and kicked out of the taksal.

I never knew that only an amritdhari Sikh is allowed to do chaur sahib. I'm not amritdhari I have done chaur sahib a few times.

Because ultimate test is staying in the pool of maya and still be nirlaip (free-de-attached)- Gurmukh maya vich udasi pointing towards raja janak..it's fine and dandy when someone shun this world to work towards their spirituality but when it comes to test of maya, thats what it counts. Gurmukh being in pool of falsehood and temporary- world illusion and still be de-attached, its not only because its some sort of test but true gurmukh naturally get bairaag and prem - two main wings to across worldly ocean- after seeing falsehood of this world and world illusion-maya. Real Gurmukh is not someone who have nothing ( by force to have nothing) and is bairaagi (they haven't done the real test yet) Real Gurmukh is someone who has everything both asthohol maya and shukhsham maya (maya vich udasi) but still bairaagi for milaap with vahiguroo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1. Remember your death all times, you will naturally remember Vahiguroo and be de-attach from this world. I remember Vahiguroo ji in narsingh avtar killing harnakash, no one can escape death. 2. Keep doing ardas to Guru Maharaj to bless us with concentration naam simran, bless us with baraaig, nishkham seva, prem and advait (non duality) 3. See tat(essence) of everything, everything cease to exit...do your worldy duties as part of your karam or family obligation but don't be attached to it..!! 4. Keep doing vichar at all times. Vahiguroo gave human bibek buddhi (intellect- biggest power) to discriminate- take good and leave bad. Divide your mind in two (intellect- make your intellect as the boss) and mind (dog), whenever vulnerable dog start wandering- let your intellect (boss) bring back the dog to its base by starting right away to do vichar with bibek buddhi- Man tu jot saroop hai apna mool painchan || ( that you are not body, mind - rajo/tamo/sato or five koshas(sheats), you are not jagrath, supaon, sukhopat )- your real essence - gyan saroop atma-paratma ....you will notice slowly infront of yourself- your perception of this world will automatically change..!! Eg: Even when you have to do bhog with your spouse - unavoidable circumstance as who wants drop of water/ anand from glass when there is maha anand- ocean out there!!!!!!!!!, look at your own self or perception very carefully and honestly with your bibek buddhi, if your perception is based on western standards of bhog birthi (fullfilling your desires), without any question you are kaami you are slave of panj choor, but if your perception is sabh gobind hai sabh gobind hai and showing affection then its fine he/she comes under- "sabh gobind hai sabh gobind hai" then your mind is becoming part of higher dristhi kaun (perception) of sabh gobind hai. Same thing applies with moh attachment with kids and money(just earn for survival of family- nothing more and nothing less)..there is big difference between attachment and universal love..once you intuition start becoming more and more advait (non duality) your will find yourself away from attachment but that does not mean you don't love your kid ..there is nothing wrong with universally loving your kid as (he/she parts of universe). Bairaag and prem are two sides of same coin, they are main wings of Gursikh who wants cross the worldly ocean. Bairaag (de-attached) from this world - individualistic human body/mind and its illusion, at the same time- prem/love universal real essence of human and the whole creation of vahiguroo which is non dual/super consciouness- Vahiguroo atma paratma !!!!!!!!!!

General Shabeg Singh’s brother refuses Siropa at the hands of Dhumma Amritsar, June 5 (YP Bureau) In what could be termed as a big embarassment for Baba Harnam Singh Khalsa ‘Dhumma’, Bhai Beant Singh, the brother of General Shabeg Singh refused to take ‘Siropa’ at the hands of Baba Dhumma during a function organized at Akal Takht to honour the families of those killed inside Sri Darbar Sahib Complex during Operation Blue Star. In a function organized Tuesday, just a day before Ghallughara Divas by Dal Khalsa, representatives of Damdami Taksaal, Akhand Kirtani Jatha, AISSF and Jatha Kar Sewa Sri Hazur Saheb had been invited by Dal Khalsa. Baba Harnam Singh Khalsa ‘Dhumma’ was the chief guest at the event. Baba ‘Dhumma’ is the Chief of Damdami Taksal, Jatha Bhindran, Mehta and the president of Gurmat Sidhant Parcharak Sant Samaj. Bhai Beant Singh, the brother of General Shabeg Singh had also been invited to be honoured but as he came to know about the presence of Baba ‘Dhumma’ and the fact that he would be receiving ‘Siropa’ at the hands of Baba ‘Dhumma’, he raised his objections and said that had he been told that Baba ‘Dhumma’ would be the Chief Guest and he shall be honouring him, he would not have come to receive the honour. Bhai Beant Singh reportedly said that he did not recognize ‘Baba Dhumma’ as Chief of the Damdami Taksal and as such would not accept a Siropa at his hands. He even said that he would not accept a Siropa in a function where Baba Dhumma was the Chief Guest. He expressed his displeasure saying that if Baba ‘Dhumma’ was to preside over the function, he should have been told before hand, so that he should have avoided coming to accept the honour. Kanwar pal Singh, the Spokesman of Dal Khalsa, while admitting that this did happen, said that Dal Khalsa, as host, had offered an alternative by suggesting that they would get him honoured at the hands of some other leader but Bhai Beant Singh refused to accept Siropa in a function where Baba ‘Dhumma’ was the Chief Guest or was even present. Kanwar pal Singh admitted that Bhai Beant Singh walked out without taking Siropa. http://yespunjab.com/national/top-stories/item/3290-general-shabeg-singh%E2%80%99s-brother-refuses-siropa-at-the-hands-of-dhumma

If you look at the history of Damdami Taksaal, the previous Jathedar passes on Jathedari to the next Jathedar. Jathedar Sant Giani Jarnail Singh Jee Khalsa Bhindranwale, were announced Jathedar by Brahmgiani Sant Baba Thakur Singh Jee, under the order by previous Jathedar (before Sant Jee) Sant Kartar Singh Jee Khalsa Bhindranwale... Dhumma has not been passed Jathedari by any Taksaal official. Sant Jarnail Singh Jee Khalsa Bhindranwale are still the Jathedar - so trying to be Jathedar is going to lead to fail. Learn the history of Guru Gobind Singh Jee's Damdami Taksaal, then you can decide who's the Jathedar. Dhumma is not living up to the standards of any of Taksaal Jathedars. Dhumma is not Jathedar. Fullstop.

I have burned myself in the flame of Love so badly That even one who hears of it gets burned.

We need to get into SGPC even those who disagree with the institution(i do disagree but i look at the bigger picture for betterment of the panth).If bhai harnaam singh dhumma can get in (being american citizen) then why cannot others? There is no point of disliking the institution by looking at the past blunders or predicting about future blunders...what matter is this moment- present moment- what can we do? We could whine about SGPC or we could be its member of SGPC (be part of team- help the team to grow). Sikhs who live in the past and or future have both lost the plot, Sikhs who live at the present/current time strives to do seva/ make changes presently is - Satkar Jog, can do real seva effectively for bigger and beterment of the panth !! Also same things applies in bhai harnaam singh dhumma case, people hate him to bits because they are still attached with their tribal mentality(pendu mentality) not GURMAT(gurmat is quite uchi than these tribal mentality/flame wars) and they cannot get pass over (gaddi issue over damdami taksal- just give bha harnaam singh an upsamparda of taksal and thats it- like how other samparda's - bhai dya singh ji/bhai dharam singh ji have done to avoid this issue) and look at the bigger picture- Khalsa Panth..!!..I thank Vahiguroo i m not a typical over zealous chela of any jatha or samparda..!!..Over zealous chelas are biggest troublemakers!!..they hide their own shortcomings by hiding behind jatha or samparda to fight their own tribal wars..just look at history- around any bhramgyani mahapursh - only 20% chelas are serious (genuine jaigaso , utam jaigaso-satkar jog), rest 80% are all useless idiots(manmukhs) who have lost the plot completely.!!

i cannot give details but i myself have seen rssb in the uk buy investment commercial property - sole purpose to make money. i am not a rssb fan by any means but i have also heard (but not seen) that many uk gurdwaras do the same.

jathedar of akal takht should NOT be touching or even attempting to touch someones feet or even bowing down to anyone or anything but guru granth sahib ji. this video shows slavery.

Chatanga veer jeeo, If daas is a weasel then bhai Amrik Singh ji Ajnala is also a weasel, I have repeated what was in the video. As per statement by bhai Amrik Singh ji, Harnam Singh is having gupt meeting with Radhaswami whilst panthic jathebandis are staging protests! Jathedars and leaders visit funeral of wife of Badal who was known to be corrupt. Sant Samaj have sided with Badal yet Badal has given to ticket to dusht Izhar Alam, honoured dusht Advani made Sumedh Saini DGP e.t.c. You honestly think that Sant Jarnail Singh ji would have just stood by and stayed silent whilst Badal honoured Advani at Darbar Sahib and made Sumedh Saini DGP? Nice language you are using veer ji. Please do not make this personal but daas just wants Chardi Kala for the Panth. Just because someone is mukhi of Samaparda or Jathedar does not mean we cannot criticise them if they do something wrong. Lets keep focused on the issue at hand, what is the need for insults? I hope I am wrong and that Jathedars and Harnam Singh Dhumma are using Badal for the chardi kala of the Panth. However after listening to speech of bhai Amrik Singh ji and other acts such as bestowing panth rattan award at Akal Takht it seems as if Sant Samaj and Jathedars genuinely support Badal. Daas believes that the truly Panthic Gursikhs will stay independent from Political parties and use the aasra of Gurbani and Naam for victory. Waheguru ji ka khalsa, Waheguru ji ki fateh

its not raada swami its gadhaa haraami

What is this for a useless topic? Please delete it, like you delete all my posts! A women is 100% allowed to go whenever she wants to gurudwara! It is 24/7 open for each kind! Such a ridiciolus post..