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It appears no one properly read the mahapurkh story in this thread. For normal people, the concept of jhoot exists. Now many people won' t get this but daas will still write henceforth. FOR THOSE WHO HAVE HIGHER AATMAK AVASTHAAS, THE VISION CHANGES LITERALLY AND THEY MAY NOT SEE JOOTH BUT WILL SEE GURUJI IN ALL AND THEREFORE MAY CONSUME 'JHOOTH' AS PARSHAD. when one sees parkash everywhere, then what is jhooth?

Fantabulous!

http://searchgurbani.com/sri_gur_pratap_suraj_granth/page/361/volume/1 ਸ੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਤਾਪ ਸੂਰਜ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ (ਰਾਸ਼ਿ ੧) ੩੭੬ ੪੦. ।ਜੋਧ ਰਸੋਈਆ। ਪ੍ਰਿਥੀ ਮਲ। ਤੁਲਸਾ। ਮਜ਼ਲਂ। ਅੁਜ਼ਗਰ ਸੈਨ। ਰਾਮੂ। ਦੀਪਾ। ਗੋਪੀ। ਰਾਮੂ ਮਹਿਤਾ। ਮੋਹਣ ਮਲ। ਅਮਰੂ। ਗੰਗੂ। ਸਹਾਰੂ। ਖਾਨ ਛੁਰਾ। ਬੇਗਾ ਪਾਸੀ। ਨਦੁ ਸੂਦਨਾ। ਅੁਗਰੂ। ਤਾਰੂ। ਝੰਡਾ। ਪੂਰੋ। ਮਲਾਰ। ਸਹਾਰੂ ਛੀਣਬਾ। ਬੂਲਾ ਪਾਂਧਾ। ਤੇ ਡਜ਼ਲੇ ਵਾਸੀ ਸਿਜ਼ਖਾਂ ਲ਼ ਅੁਪਦੇਸ਼।॥ ੩੯ੴੴਪਿਛਲਾ ਅੰਸੂ ਤਤਕਰਾ ਰਾਸਿ ੧ ਅਗਲਾ ਅੰਸੂ>>੪੧ ਦੋਹਰਾ: ਜੋਧ ਰਸੋਈਆ ਦੇਗ ਮਹਿਣ, ਗੁਰ ਹਿਤ ਕਰਤਿ ਅਹਾਰ੧। ਬਿਜ਼ਪ੍ਰ ਜਾਤਿ ਸੇਵਾ ਕਰੇ, ਅੁਰ ਹੰਕਾਰ ਨਿਵਾਰਿ ॥੧॥ ਚੌਪਈ: ਧਨ ਆਦਿਕ ਜੇ ਸਿਖ ਗਨ ਲਾਵੈਣ। ਭੇਟ ਧਰਹਿਣ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਮਨਾਵੈਣ। ਸੋ ਸਭਿ ਜੋਧ ਰਸੋਈਆ ਲੇਤਿ। ਲਗਰ ਪਰ ਲਗਾਇ ਕਰਿ ਦੇਤਿ ॥੨॥ ਇਕ ਦਿਨ ਮਹਿਣ ਜੇਤੋ ਲਗ ਜਾਇ। ਤਿਤਿਕ ਲੇਤਿ, ਲਗਰ ਮਹਿਣ ਲਾਇ। ਦਿਨ ਅਗਲੇ ਹਿਤ ਰਹਨਿ ਨ ਪਾਵੈ। ਵਧਹਿ ਜਿ ਪਸੂਅਨ ਵਹਿਰ ਖੁਵਾਵੈ ॥੩॥ ਨਾਂਹਿ ਤ ਸਰਿਤਾ ਮਾਂਹਿ ਗਿਰਾਵੈ। ਜਲ ਗਾਗਰ ਤੇ ਸਕਲ ਡੁਲ੍ਹਾਵੈ। ਨੀਰ ਆਦਿ ਹਿਤ ਪ੍ਰਾਤਿ੨ ਨ ਧਰੈ। ਕਹਾਂ ਅੰਨਕੀ ਗਿਨਤੀ ਕਰੈਣ ॥੪॥ ਇਮਿ ਗੁਰ ਹੁਕਮ ਸੁ ਬਰਤਹਿ ਜੋਧ। ਲਗਰ ਕਾਰ ਕਰਹਿ ਹਿਤ ਬੋਧ੩। ਪਾਛੇ ਕੁਛ ਭੋਜਨ ਰਹਿ ਜਾਇ। ਬਿਨਾ ਸਾਦ ਤੇ ਖਾਇ, ਬਿਤਾਇ੪ ॥੫॥ ਗੁਰ ਕੇ ਸਿਜ਼ਖ ਜਾਨਿ ਸਮੁਦਾਈ। ਸਭਿ ਕੀ ਸੇਵਾ ਕਰਹਿ ਬਨਾਈ। ਜੋ ਜਿਸ ਕਾਲ ਪੁਰੀ ਮਹਿਣ ਆਵੈ। ੧ਬਣਾਅੁਣਦਾ ਹੁੰਦਾ ਸੀ ਭੋਜਨ। ੨ਸਵੇਰ ਲਈ। ੩ਪ੍ਰੇਮ (ਨਾਲ ਤੇ) ਅਕਲ (ਨਾਲ) ਲਗਰ ਦੀ ਕਾਰ ਕਰਦਾ ਹੈ। (ਅ) ਲਗਰ ਦੀ ਸੇਵਾ ਕਰਦਾ ਹੈ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਗਿਆਨ ਦੀ ਪ੍ਰਾਪਤੀ ਲਈ। ੪ਖਾਕੇ ਦਿਨ ਬਿਤਾਅੁਣਦਾ ਹੈ (ਜੋਧ)।

This sakhi is not related to ordinary humans.This relates to a sikh who has elevated his consciousness to a higher level.There is a difference between ordinary souls like us and elevated souls like of Bhai Jodh ji. What your mundane mind thinks is left over is not left over.Bhai Jodh ji was a sikh of higher avastha and he knew things in much better perspectives than ordinary minds. The fact that Bhai Jodh ji's name is recorded in Bhai Gurdas ji dee vaar, there is no doubt that he was a sikh of higher avastha who had earned blessings of Guru Sahib. I find no reason to cast doubt on this sakhi. Sakhis are an integral part of sikhi.

Waheguru

Jo Bole So Niiiiiiiiihhhhhhhaaaaaaallllllllllllll

BOLE SOHNIHAL SAT SRI AKAAL

Singh kills it. Muslim kept going on about the 10 words things. Man, nothing stands up to ik oankaar. especially the ending. Everyone can meditate. The only relevant thing is finding God.

Dhanvaad Guru Sahib da te Bhai Jugraj Singh ji da.

http://gurmatbibek.com/forum/read.php?3,30144 According to Sikhan di Bhagat Mala and Sooraj Prakash, Bhai Jodh Jee Rasoiya was a Hazoori Sikh of Sri Guru Angad Dev Sahib Jee/Sri Guru Amar Daas Sahib Jee. Bhai Jodh Jee was formally a Brahmin by caste before becoming a Sikh of Guru Sahib. He used to do seva in langar and prepare the food for Guru Sahib and the Sikh Sangat without any pride over doing so. Sikh Sangat used to bring monetary offerings and give them to Bhai Jodh Jee, he would faithfully submit everything at the feet of Guru Sahib and use the money only for preparing langar. Bhai Jodh Jee used to think however much seva I get a chance to do the better off I will be. All the food that he prepared in langar was distributed during the day, he would keep nothing for the next day if anything was left over he would take it and feed it to the animals outside. If there were not any animals around to eat the spare langar he would throw it in the river. If there was even any water left in the gaagar (vessel/pot) he would also spill that and not keep it for the next day; what to speak of food. In this fashion, Bhai Jodh Jee faithfully obeyed the hukam of Guru Sahib and with great love and wisdom performed the seva of Guru ka Langar. Bhai Jodh Jee would eat whatever food was left over from langar, in this way Bhai Jodh Jee passed his days in seva. He would serve all Sikhs as Sangat of Guru Sahib with great devotion. If a visiting Sikh ever came he would always get langar ready and serve it to him or her without delay. Bhai Jodh Jee was never lazy and would always dispel the hunger of all who visited Guru Sahib’s langar. As well as cooking the food, he also used to clean the used dishes of the sangat. Seeing this seva of Bhai Jodh Jee’s Sri Gurdev Jee was very happy and did the kirpa of Sat-Naam Daan-Gyaan on him. Bhai Jodh Jee’s pains of janam-maran were dispelled and he obtained a great state of Anand. ਸਾਖੀ ਹੋਰ ਚਲੀ ਜੋਧ ਰਸੋਈਆ ਗੁਰੂ ਅੰਗਦ ਜੀ ਦੇ ਹਜ਼ੂਰ ਰਹਿਂਦਾ ਸੀ । ਬ੍ਰਹਮਣ ਸਰੀਰੁ ਉਸ ਦਾ ਸੀ, ਤੇ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਦੇ ਹਜ਼ੂਰ ਮਾਯਾ ਨੂੰ ਛੁਹੀਂਦਾ ਨਹੀਂ ਸੀ, ਤਾਂ ਜੋਧ ਰਸੋਈਆ ਜੋ ਕੁਝ ਲੰਗਰ ਨੂੰ ਲਗੇ ਸੋ ਸਿਖਾਂ ਥੀਂ ਲੈ ਕੇ ਪ੍ਰਸ਼ਾਦ ਪਕਾ ਕੇ ਸਿਖਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਸਾਰਾ ਦਿਨੁ ਛਕਾਂਵਦਾ ਰਹੇ ਤੇ ਆਪ ਪੱਤਲਾਂ ਜੂਠੀਆਂ ਧੋ ਕੇ ਪੀ ਲਏ । ਜੋ ਇਹ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਦੇ ਸਿੱਖ ਹੈਨਿ, ਜਿਤਨੀ ਏਨਾਂ ਦੀ ਟਹਿਲ ਮੈਂ ਕਰਾਂਗਾ ਉਤਨਾ ਮੇਰਾ ਭਲਾ ਹੈ । ਜਿਸ ਸਮੈਂ ਕੋਈ ਸਿੱਖੁ ਆਵੈ ਉਸ ਨੂੰ ਉਸ ਸਮੇਂ ਪ੍ਰਸ਼ਾਦੁ ਛਕਾਵੈ ਆਲਸੁ ਨਾ ਕਰੇ । ਤਾਂ ਜੋਧ ਰਸੋਈਏ ਦਾ ਇਸ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਰ ਕਲਿਆਣੁ ਹੋਇਆ ॥੨੫॥(ਸਿਖਾਂ ਦੀ ਭਗਤਮਾਲਾ, ਸਫ਼ਾ ੬੬) ਦੋਹਰਾ: ਜੋਧ ਰਸੋਈਆ ਦੇਗ ਮਹਿਂ, ਗੁਰ ਹਿਤ ਕਰਤਿ ਅਹਾਰ ਬਿੱਪ੍ਰ ਜਾਤਿ ਸੇਵਾ ਕਰੇ, ਉਰ ਹੰਕਾਰ ਨਿਵਾਰਿ ॥੨॥ ਚੌਪਈ: ਧਨ ਆਦਿਕ ਜੇ ਸਿਖ ਗਨ ਲ੍ਯਾਵੈਂ। ਭੇਟ ਧਰਹਿਂ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਮਨਾਵੈਂ। ਸੋ ਸਭਿ ਜੋਧ ਰਸੋਈਆ ਲੇਤਿ। ਲੰਗਰ ਪਰ ਲਗਾਇ ਕਰਿ ਦੇਤਿ ॥੩॥ ਇਕ ਦਿਨ ਮਹਿਂ ਜੇਤੋ ਲਗ ਜਾਇ। ਤਿਤਿਕ ਲੇਤਿ, ਲੰਗਰ ਮਹਿਂ ਲਾਇ। ਦਿਨ ਅਗਲੇ ਹਿਤ ਰਹਨਿ ਨ ਪਾਵੈ। ਵਧਹਿ ਜਿ ਪਸੂਅਨ ਵਹਿਰ ਖੁਵਾਵੈ ॥੪॥ ਨਾਂਹਿ ਤ ਸਰਿਤਾ ਮਾਂਹਿ ਗਿਰਾਵੈ। ਜਲ ਗਾਗਰ ਤੇ ਸਕਲ ਡੁਲ੍ਹਾਵੈ। ਨੀਰ ਆਦਿ ਹਿਤ ਪ੍ਰਾਤਿ ਨ ਧਰੈ। ਕਹਾਂ ਅੰਨਕੀ ਗਿਨਤੀ ਕਰੈਂ ॥੫॥ ਇਮਿ ਗੁਰ ਹੁਕਮ ਸੁ ਬਰਤਹਿ ਜੋਧ। ਲੰਗਰ ਕਾਰ ਕਰਹਿ ਹਿਤ ਬੋਧ। ਪਾਛੇ ਕੁਛ ਭੋਜਨ ਰਹਿ ਜਾਇ। ਬਿਨਾ ਸ੍ਵਾਦ ਤੇ ਖਾਇ, ਬਿਤਾਇ ॥੬॥ ਗੁਰ ਕੇ ਸਿੱਖ ਜਾਨਿ ਸਮੁਦਾਈ। ਸਭਿ ਕੀ ਸੇਵਾ ਕਰਹਿ ਬਨਾਈ। ਜੋ ਜਿਸ ਕਾਲ ਪੁਰੀ ਮਹਿਂ ਆਵੈ। ਤਬਿ ਕਰਿ ਤ੍ਯਾਰ ਅਹਾਰ ਅਚਾਵੈ ॥੭॥ ਨਹਿਂ ਆਲਸ ਕੋ ਦਿਜਿਬਰ ਕਰੈ। ਆਇ ਛੁਧਿਤਿ ਕੀ ਛੁਧਾ ਸੁ ਹਰੈ। ਦੇਖਿ ਸੇਵ ਰੀਝੇ ਗੁਰਦੇਵ। ਸੱਤਿਨਾਮ ਦੇ ਗ੍ਯਾਨ ਕਰੇਵ ॥੮॥ ਜਨਮ ਮਰਨ ਕੋ ਦੁੱਖ ਨਿਵਾਰਾ। ਪਾਯੋ ਪਦ ਜਹਿਂ ਅਨਂਦ ਉਦਾਰਾ। (ਸ੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਤਾਪ ਸੂਰਜ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ, ਰਾਸ ੧, ਅੰਸੂ ੪੦) ਭੂਲ ਚੂਕ ਲਈ ਖਿਮਾ ਜੀ ।

Grew up with Christmas trees, sang Christmas carols in school concerts, gave gifts etc. Yet, here I stand still a Sikh, people need to chill out.

Jo Bole So Nihaal..............

This is a theme that has been ignored by said poster......time and again. Personal attacks upon people for expressing a thought that may be wrong, not explained correctly or simply misunderstood appear to be common reposte among a select few. I have recognised this UGLY trend and now no longer respond to these fools. A word of advice to those of who we speak: Better to remain silent and be considered a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

These missionaries will not stop to hit below the belt. These people are bent upon in eroding faith of our brothers and sisters. Have they not seen people taking charan amrit at Harmandir sahib har ki pauri.They will mock that also. History is part and parcel of sikhi.Tomorrow they will ask their parents how are you sure that thier grandfather was in fact their grandfather.

What kind of black and white approach is that? Ever heard thing called context? contextualization? Didn't sri guru nanak dev ji maharaj ordered bhai lehna ji to add human corpse as a test? - I am sure missionaries bhausarias don't beleive in that sakhi ?

According to jaspreet1 this tree is anti-Gurmat and anyone who made this is a hypocrite! THERE IS NO WAY TO BE CREATIVE AND IMPLEMENT SIKHI INTO THE HOLIDAY SEASON YOU HAVE TO CRY AND BE MAD TO BE A SIKH THEN AND ONLY THEN WILL YOU GO TO SACHKHAND

It's likely pigs have human traits due to the period of time they have been domesticated for farming purposes and how eloquent of a dish pork is in comparison to other animals. If you compare pigs kept in the east they have adapted to have different traits. Besides that hybrid animals can't reproduce such as mules there are alot of complications in that and even if his theory is correct it doesn't take the much effort just to observe in a lab dish when both species are mixed to see the outcome. It would be interesting if it's possible to reproduce animals which are closer to use and easier to study upon without protesters interfering as much, the research could help produce a cure for every known illness if for example stem cell research was conducted more openly. The lack of hair in humans is already theorized to do with humans which may have lived in watery conditions helping them move about in water more easily.

If you read Ashtpadhi 21, Sri Sukhmani Sahib, that explains why Waheguru creates the us, and why he plays the game. He creates demons, and deities. As kids, when we wanted to play a game of cards, play chess etc, we had to find an opponent, otherwise the game couldn't be played. Why do people enjoy going into a maize? Why do people enjoy playing games? It's the same with Waheguru... It is a cruel world, in terms of pain and suffering, but there exists remedy too; Waheguru expects us to follow Gurbani. Guru Nanak Ji came to earth in the purest form. I.e. aap Naryan kala Dhaar...to show us the way to salvation. He creates 4 yugs, turn by turn, and then wraps everything up, until he wants to do it all over again. The world is a cruel place; perhaps that's why 10th Patshahi in Jaap Sahib describes Waheguru as kroor Karmeh. I.e. doer of cruel things, but Maharaj does namo to that aspect of Waheguru too... Waheguru....

Sangat ji, if you care for Sikhi and the Singhs who are illegally behind bars despite serving their jail terms, share this message as much as possible on your social networks; facebook, twitter etc Today December 2, panthic Jathebandis have decided to hold a KESRI MARCH in Support of Bhai Gurbaksh Singh Ji Khalsa to be taken out on Wednesday 4th December 2013, from SRI AKAAL TAKHAT SAHIB TO GURUDWARA AMB SAHIB MOHALI, where Bhai Sahib is holding his fast-unto-death for the release of Sikh prisoners. SANGAT is requested to join in this Kesri March. Route: Jalandhur, Ludhiana, Samrala and Morinda edit (thanks to Jivan76) : There will be a demonstration outside Indian high commission in Birmingham Tuesday 3 December 1pm-3pm.

Panthic gathering on 2nd December 2013 at Gurdwara Amb Sahib, Ajitgarh (Mohali):

It is shameful that only few Sikhs turned up at Gurdwara Amb Sahib for he had to say this. Be united otherwise nothing can be achieved as he said

Sat Sri Akaaaaaaallllllllllllluhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!

Sangat Ji hath jhorhkè benti Please attend Birmingham tomorrow. I have contacted the media channels and BBC and Free radio are going to attend as are Sikh channel and Sangat tv are attending. Ethaa dekhao so as the world sees our pain and frustration......aswel as the organisers of 1 June majhara........that asli panthic singhs are involved in this sangharash EVERYDAY not once every thirty years!!!!!

Dhan Kalgidhar de shere

I'm confused, someone said people have no free will. Do we have free will? Or does God do everything? So do we make a decision to Jap Naam, or does waheguru make certain people jap naam? If wahguru does make everything happen then why do we get good or bad karam? We did not choose to do something, waheguru made us do it. So why are we rewarded or punished for that deed? Or did that guy get it completely wrong?

Also Khalsa Ji please please do not neglect our duty to join our mothers/fathers/brothers/sisters and bazurghs outside the indian high commission for rôss mahjarah in Birmingham tomorrow 3 December 1-3pm. Bhul chuk maaf

Waheguru Mehtab singh ji dhan vaad tuahda.

Bhai Ji also spread the message that there is a demonstration outside indian high commission in Birmingham tomorrow Tuesday 3 December 1pm-3pm. BENTI SAMOO SADH SANGAT NU PAESH HÖN DI.

I agree with the above post, Indian media is trying its best that nobody hears about Bhai Gurbaksh Singh Khalsa, and his efforts to get Sikhs released form the Indian jails.

Sikh Siyasat News: http://www.sikhsiyasat.net/2013/12/01/various-sikh-preachers-visited-bhai-gurbaksh-singh-in-last-two-days-to-show-solidarity-with-the-cause-of-sikh-prisoners/

yep singha! Im in me 30s grew up in an ENglish Majority area. The Schools back then did not cater for Multiculturalism much.

We should make effort to save bhai sahib ji, these spineless leaders won't budge. He is talking to a dead brick wall . It would have better as i mentioned if this was held at US embassy/UN in India for maximum impact. There are different levels of art of wars applied at different different circumstances and levels may be its not a right time but then again who i am to know bhai sahib ji faith..if faith is 100 percent on guru sahib it will have maximum impact via its own unique beauty and form. Who said Marjiva sikhs have normal life style..Their unique anukhi acharaj gurmukh life styles defies logics of kalyugi jev like us..!

Do what majority of the Jews do, they don't celebrate Christmas either and neither is the childhood of their children ruined by not celebrating Christmas. until this modern westernized Sikh generation, all the previous Sikh generations for the last few centuries grew up without Christmas, and they were better Sikhs than us. Celebrating other religious holidays will only turn kids into a Hardeghi Chamach when they grow up. We can always get a family get togather by visiting each other, going to Gurdwaras but celebrating Christmas, Mawlid, Eid, Janamastmi etc is not necessary nor required for a Sikh family.

Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh You should listen to Gurbani Veechaar or Katha on the topic Check out https://www.google.co.in/#q=katha+laavan Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh

I think it might be linked with the Khands described at the end of Japji Sahib. 1. Dharam Khand: the realm of righteous action (pauri 35),2. Gian Khand: the realm of knowledge (pauri 36),3. Saram Khand: the realm of spiritual endeavour (pauri 36),4. Karam Khand: the realm of grace, (pauri 37) and5. Sach Khand: the realm of Truth (pauri 37).http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Five_Khands This is before sehaj and jog happen to give mukhti when total unity occurs of soul atma and super soul par-atma

Oh jonny.,.....? Gyan is ultimate knowledge. One can only apply what he has learned and read. Therefore simply reciting Shabads and Gurbani without applying them to your very being and projecting them in your outwardly gestures is but a hollow gesture. This is but the plurality of Sikhi, our Guru is completed with Bhagats aswel, of all our Bhagats how many of us can say we know someone of that jhaat?? We read Gurbani yet isolate ourselves from our wider community. This is just one example, but it exists and thats an argument for another thread. Times that example by twenty little minute gestures a day, even a single prejudicial thought in a long hard week. What i'm failing miserably at, is to explain that i think your mistaking Mukhti with Gyan. You see, Gurbani will give the understander Mukhti by laying open the path to the world but that is a mental journey, your actual human body must relate that to the actions of the real/physical world. Most of us with me at the front of the queue, believe that we already do this, but actually don't. This process is not limited to time so charsi lakh jhoon should be ample, but your whole life getting Gurbani and ultimately Naam to be, not only our every thought but literally every breath and action......that is when all your pains are gone and life is tranquil and serene......heaven on earth until its time to leave......hence its only with Ghristi Jivan that Gurbani and Naam the true nector will be awarded you. Again with the personal insults, this is only the thoughts of one student and as its been mentioned a couple of times bhul chuk maaf kardeyo

a little over a hundred years ago, there were many Sikhs who were celebrating Hindu and Islamic holidays and practices. When Singhs would remind such Sikhs that this is not how a Sikh should behave but such Sikhs would make clever arguements and all sorts of Bahanas as to why they should celebrate religious festivals of other religions. Bhai Kahn Singh Nabha observed these Sikhs and referred to them as Hardeghi Chamach and wrote the following poem: Devi ko bhagat kabhee meera ko upaasha hai, Daas Sultan ko au kabhee Laal-Beghi hai|| (Depending on the circle and situation, sometimes he becomes a worshipper of Devi and at other times of Meera. Sometimes they serve Sultan (a sect of Islam) and at other times they become Laal-Beghi (another sect of Islam)) Mann meh hai aur ar mukh maahe dooji baat, Param Pakhandi, nakh Sikh Lau farebee hai|| (He has one thing in mind and something else on his tongue. He is a Param Pakhandi i.e. a great hyprocrite and a deceiver) Swarath ko maan hai, mukh parmaarath tain, Nimboo ko nichod agai karat rakebi hai || (From inside they have worldly reasons and aspirations but from tongue they speak of holyness and religion. They crush others as a lemon is crushed) Singh roop dhaari anai matt ko parchaari bhaari, Panth ko nikaaray jo chamach Hardeghi hai || (Such pakhandi adopts the appearance of a Singh but always sticks up or stands up and preaches other faiths. Such person who undermines Panth is a Hardeghi Chamach) Taken from :http://www.tapoban.org/forum/read.php?1,6055

What you need and I need aren't the same.

Guru Nanak Ji came to earth as the pure embodiment of Waheguru, I.e. not under any influence of maya. We came to earth, as embodiment of Waheguru, but under the influence of maya. As jeevs, Waheguru is under the influence of maya in that role, but at the same time, he remains detached: Electricity is powering my computer, the computer is not electricity, the computer is electricity roop. If I smash my computer, that will not affect the national grid electricity supply. Waheguru adopts the two roops, I.e. Sargun and nirgun. On a sunny day we place 100 buckets of water in the garden, the suns rays reflect in each bucket, that does not mean that there are 100 individual suns, there is only one sun, but 100 reflections. If we destroy one bucket, have we destroyed the sun? If we destroy all buckets, the sun still remains intact. Waheguru is within us, and separate at the same time. If you look in the mirror, you will see your face. If you look into 100 angled mirrors, you will see 100 of you, but in reality, you are one, not 100. Waheguru has the ability to ek and anek, at the same time. Just as the sun remains detached from the buckets of water, but gives its rays to the water, just as the 100 mirrors cause the illusion of you being 100; in the same way Wahegurus pritibimbh is within us, in reflection form, but separate, at the same time too... Waheguru...

Vaheguru

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I thank Bhai Sahib Ranjit Singh Ji for visiting Bhai Gurbaksh Singh Ji who is at the end of day 18 of a hunger strike unto death. By availing yourself before him you have helped maintain his Chardi Kalà..........for that the Sikh Panth thanks you.

Where is Panthpreet, Dundha, Ghagha, Thailandwala, Jeowala????????????????????

self -edit, op clarified point of this post via pm.

He may not be sikh according to reformist missionary protestant jevoh witness sikhs but according to traditional gurmat he was sikh in his own right as sikh is a learner- learning about vahiguroo ji at their own pace, own terms, own will (sponteonous spark within). Khalsa and Singh who is baptized.

I don't think Sikhs will ever get justice in India. Indian media is calling Bhai Gurbaksh Singh Khalsa a radical Sikh. Sikhs need their own media!!!

May Bhai Gurbaksh Singh ji achieve his goal!!! Of course, anti Sikh Badal and Saini will try their best to hurt this gursikh.

Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh Read the article "Paap and Punn" at http://www.gurbani.org/gurblog/2010/12/27/paap-and-punn/ Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh