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Head of Divya Jyoti Jagriti Sansthan, Ashutosh, on Wednesday died in the dera of the sect in Noormahal of Jalandhar district on intervening night on Wednesday. Having a large number of followers all in India and around the globe, Ashutosh reportedly died of heart attack. He was also the founder of the Dera in 1983 in Noormahal. Known for delivering spiritual discourse through its discourses, the dera is involved in carrying number of social activities and launch fight against many social evils like drug abuse. The exact cause of death of the Dera head is yet to be confirmed officially by the dera, however, sources said the dera head died after having severe pain in the chest. Following the news of his death, followers have started moving towards Noormahal. http://www.hindustantimes.com/punjab/jalandhar/noormahal-dera-head-ashutosh-dead/article1-1177818.aspx

Hindustani, It's very unfortunate that you have chosen this forum to peddle the lies of the largest democracy in the world. Your views may have been supported 30 years ago. But after 30 years of false propaganda, the new generation are a lot wiser and have done the research. Slowly the truth is coming out and people can make up their own minds. It's very cheap to provide little snippets of speeches of the greatest sikh of our time. Why don't you listen to complete speeches of Sant Ji and then see the context in which it was said. Please do your research and understand all the forces that were conspiring to make Panjab spiral into destruction. Read the many books written by retired police DGP's and intelligence staff to understand the covert war that was engineered by the congress government. If you have 5 mins take a look at this article, written in a newspaper which you would probably say is credible. Oh and by the way the person in the article is a non sikh. http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/defying-censorship-the-reporter-who-exposed-the-killings/article4798103.ece Do me a favour and go and spew your half baked accusations on another forum. It's gets boring having to read this childish drivel

India News: Noormahal Dera Pakhandi Ashutosh dead. Head of Divya Jyoti Jagriti Sansthan, Ashutosh died in his dera in Noormahal, Jalandhar district on intervening night on Wednesday. Ashutosh reportedly died of heart attack. He was also the founder of the Dera in 1983 in Noormahal. The exact cause of death of the Dera head is yet to be confirmed officially by the dera, however, sources said the dera head died after having severe pain in the chest. Following the news of his death, followers have started moving towards Noormahal. Sikh protests against Ashutosh in Ludhiana in 2009 resulted in the Shaheedi of Bhai Darshan Singh Lohara when Punjab Police opened fire on Sikhs. source: Sikh Channel

May Guru Sahib do kirpa on his misled followers and bring them into the fold of the Khalsa Panth.

Breaking News: ਨਰਕ ਤੋਂ ਆਈ Press Release ਜੋ ਕੀ ਸਿੱਧੀ Times of India ਦੇ ਦਫਤਰ ਪੁੱਜੀ ਹੈ ਇਸ ਗੱਲ ਨੂ ਸਾਫ਼ ਕਰਦੀ ਹੈ ਕੀ ਸ਼੍ਰੀਮਾਨ ਆਸ਼ੁਤੋਸ਼ ਮਹਾਰਾਜ ਜੀ ਸੁਖ ਸਵੱਲੀ ਆਪਣੇ ਅਸਥਾਨ, ਭਾਵ ਕੇ ਨਰਕ ਨਿਵਾਸ ਦੇ ਟੌਪ ਫਲੋਰ ਦੇ Suite 666 ਜਾ ਵਿਰਾਜੇ ਹਨ | Times of India ਸਮਵਾਦ ਦਾਤਾ ਨੇ ਇਹ ਖੁਲਾਸਾ ਵੀ ਕੀਤਾ ਹੈ ਕੀ ਸ਼੍ਰੀਮਾਨ ਆਸ਼ੁਤੋਸ਼ ਮਹਾਰਾਜ ਜੀ ਤੋਂ ਹੁਣ ਠੀਕ ਤਰੀਕੇ ਨਾਲ ਤਸ਼ਰੀਫ਼ ਰਖੀ ਨਹੀਂ ਜਾਂਦੀ | ਇਹ ਅਨੁਮਾਨ ਲਾਯਾ ਜਾ ਰਿਹਾ ਹੈ ਕੀ ਉਹਨਾ ਦੀ ਇਸ ਹਾਲਤ ਪਿਛੇ ਅਕਾਲ ਪੁਰਖ ਦੀ ਗੁਪਤ ਫੌਜ ਵੱਲੋਂ ਲਾਏ ਗਏ ਛਿੱਤਰ ਹਨ | ਵਿਸ਼ੇਸ਼ ਜਾਣਕਾਰੀ ਵਾਸਤੇ ਵੇਖਦੇ ਰਹੋ Times Now ਦੀ ਖਾਸ ਪੇਸ਼ਕਸ਼ Ashutosh - The <banned word filter activated> Who Got Tossed!

Watch from 41:25 Answer of why world war 3 is shifted ahead.

They're playing a political move because Sonia is under the radar by the bureaucracies for impeding justice system

I having been reading up on Mughal and Mongol History and found it quite extraordinary and very interesting as I uncovered many misconceptions about the Mongol and Mughal empires and their origins. First of all the Mughals of India did not all originate from Iran or turkey. They came from a mixture of countries such as Afghanistan, Turkmenistan and Mongolia, most astonishingly most of the leaders of the Mughals where in fact direct descendants of Genghis Khan who were originally Buddhist or other Chinese religions of that period and not Muslim and came from the Mongolia. The first Mughal Emperor of India was Babur who was Ghengis Khans’s Grandson. The word Mughal is a mispronunciation of the word Mongol and many people mistakenly called the Mongols, Mughals and the name just stuck ever since. In fact Mughal and Mongols is the same people. The early people of India mispronounced the word Mongol thinking they meant Mughal. The Mongols where the most ferocious empire to ever rule and exist, under their leader Genghis Khan. Another mistake that people often make is thinking that Genghis Khan was a Muslim. This cannot be further from the truth. The word Khan originates in Mongolia. Khan means ruler and the name was adopted by Middle Eastern Muslims from the Mongolian empire who were not Muslim and never where. In fact the biggest massacre ever carried out against Islam and Muslims was committed by Genghis Khan. Genghis Khan nearly wiped out Islam from the face of planet during his attack on caliphate of Bagdad. He systematical slaughtered every Muslim in Baghdad, burnt down Islamic libraries and mosques and all Islamic heritage in an attack that lasted 10 days. At the time Bagdad was the centre of the Islamic word. This is where all their precious Islamic manuscripts and religious art and books were kept. And was also the most powerful Islamic base with thousands of muslim armies protecting it. The great Genghis believed in freedom of religion and was very tolerant of other faiths and practices. But at the time of his attack on Muslims, who ruled in Bagdad and nearby areas, were killing non-Muslims and treating them very badly. Genghis Firstly asked the Muslims to stop their hostile treatment of non-Muslims and surrender. When the Muslim leaders of Bagdad refused and carried on with their forced conversions and ill treatment of Non-Muslims. Genghis then unleashed the most devastating attack the Islamic world has ever seen in the history of Islam. He set about to wipe Islam of the face of the planet. This was not just a skirmish to see who was boss. He systematically went about with the aim of destroying every single trace of Islam. Genghis Khan hated Islam and what it stood for. No one has since come close to attacking Islam as Genghis achieved. This is why every Muslim hates Genghis Khan. If you would like proof of this just Google Genghis and Bagdad. The Mongols then ruled over Bagdad but some of the Mongols such as Genghis Khans grandson converted to Islam from their own will. But I’m sure Genghis would not have been happy about that. These rulers then then invaded India and where succefull because of their Mongol heritage fighting skills and empire. To cut a long story short the Mongols invaded the Middle East and after butchering most of the muslims. But along the way some of their influential leaders converted to Islam and slowly started to adopt to islam. They went to ruling Muslim countries to slowly becoming Muslim themselves. This is why many Mughal emperors physically resemble mongols ie Chinese looking. Not all Mongols converted to Islam just mainly their leaders who had very good fighting skills from the Mongolian empire. They then went and invaded India and that’s why they were so successful due to their Mongol heritage leaders and armies. After this the Midlle eastern Muslims adopted Khan as their name from the Mongolians. Khan itself is not and Islamic word. Here is a link of information on of Genghis attack on Bagdhad http://lostislamichistory.com/mongols/ Here is a video posted by a Muslim on the attack by Genghis Khan on the Islamic world This is a short BBC Documentary on Ghenghis

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Waheguru Here is the Granth Gur Sobha by Kavi Saina Pati in english with a great historical forward. Kavi Ji was a poet of Guru Gobind Singh's Court. The granth is written in the early 1700s. Gur Sobha Granth [scribd][/scribd]

Saropa It is the clothe of honor, Scarf or cloth of appreciation or honor. Anyone who does something good, must be thanked and appreciated in one form or other. In the sikh world, hight appreciation is by presenting a Saropa, the clothe of honor, a length of cloth put across (placed over) the neck. It is usually of the saffron color. Though the color code is not essential. White or sky-blue are also common. The cloth may be any material, cotton, mixed or silk. Try an Indian store in your store that sells turban material, or Google online turban material selling sites.

Harjinder Singh (sic) alias Jinda who was convicted and later hanged for the murder of the former Army Chief, General A.S. Vaidya was no ordinary man. He was arrested twice by the Delhi Police during my tenure as Commissioner of Police, Delhi. This self-confessed killer was not just a ruthless killer. He had another side to his personality: he could be charming and humorous even when injured and battling for his life. When I met him after his arrest by the Delhi Police he seemed anything but a psychopath. He had psychological traits which made him and extraordinary person, but these did not make him mentally unsound. First Arrest Jinda was first arrested by the Delhi police in 1985, more by chance than owing to any previous knowledge that he was an active terrorist. A spate of bank robberies had taken place in Delhi and the Delhi Police was under criticism for its inability to stop them. I was daily being taken to task by the Union Home Minister and the media. Till Jinda’s arrest there was no evidence about any possible link between these bank robberies and terrorism in Punjab. Jinda fell into the police net on the basis of a low-grade information about the theft of a car. Only on the day after his arrest when during interrogation, Jinda started speaking about Pakistani plans for shootouts at public places and killings of Hindus to create Hindu-Sikh riots, that that the police realized that they had a big catch in their hands. The acting Additional Commissioner of Police Crime, RK Sharma rang me up in my house on a Sunday morning to inform me about his arrest. Interrogation I decided to go to the Crime Branch Interrogation Centre to talk to this very ordinary looking man for over one hour and was fascinated by not only what he told me but the way he narrated his story. He had no fear and no remorse. He rather enjoyed talking about his many escapades in which the police, like in the Bombay films, did not come out very well. Here a young man from Amritsar had actually succeeded in getting the better of the entire Delhi Police force and that was something which gave him tremendous satisfaction. He underplayed his role as a terrorist in the cause of achieving Khalistan, perhaps intentionally but had no hesitation in boasting about his daring bank robberies in broad daylight in the heart of Delhi. He insisted on calling Delhi “Rajdhani” and obviously derived immense satisfaction from taking on the police in Delhi. Even at that stage though we did not know much about his terrorist antecedents, he talked in terms of “them” and “us”. It struck me even then that he was more forthcoming and almost friendly with me, because here he was talking to a head of the Delhi Police on an equal footing. He had no hesitation in telling me about his unhappy childhood and his petty crimes in Amritsar. He was later transferred to Gujarat from where he escaped while being escorted from the jail to the trail court. After his escape he started committing even more daring acts of terrorism. He became a feared terrorist and was well-known both in Delhi and Punjab. We learnt about his involvement in the killing of Lalit Makan the Congress MP and Arjun Dass, a close Sanjay Gandhi associate. Second Meeting He was arrested for the second time by the Delhi Police in August 1987, in an encounter in the Civil Lines area in which he was seriously injured. He was taken to the Civil Lines Police Station before the arrival of an ambulance. This time there was no doubt that the Delhi Police had scored a major success. His capture was the result of close cooperation between the Delhi Police and the Intelligence Bureau. I learnt about the encounter on my wireless set and rushed to the Police Station within a few minutes. Jinda was being moved into the ambulance on a stretcher when he saw me. He immediately recognized me and greeted me with a big smile. He must have been in terrible agony, but that did not stop him from joking. “Mubaraq ho. Ab to app ko bahut bari taraqui milegi. Delhi Police ne mujhe pakar liya hai” (Congratulations. Now you will get a promotion-Delhi Police has been able to arrest me). Here was a man almost on his deathbed and yet he had the audacity to poke fun and laugh. I could see that he was enjoying the thought of not only making the supreme sacrifice for the cause in which he believed, but of being able to be one up on the Commissioner of the Delhi Police. He was take to the Army Hospital in the cantonment, because of security considerations, and miraculously, he responded to the treatment after a successful operation. I went to see him along with DCP Crime, this time not to interrogate him but to see someone who had earned my respect. I must confess that then my feelings for this man were not that of professional police officer for an outlaw but were mixed with some warmth and admiration. Ideology It is important at this point to say something about our system. Here was a known killer of the former Army Chief being treated by the army doctors, who performed nothing short of a miracle in saving his life. When I entered his room he was lying on the bed as the lower portion of his body was completely paralysed. The doctors could not say at that time whether he would ever be able to use his legs again. On seeing me he again greeted warmly and apologized for not being able to get up. He thanked me for coming to see him. He behaved as if he was talking to an old friend. He was in a talkative mood and this time told me all about the terrorist movement in Punjab and their ultimate goal of Khalistan with Pakistani help. He bragged about his escape from Ahmedabad and had absolutely no fear of death. He was certain that his end was not too far off and tauntingly told me that this time the Delhi Police would not make the mistake of handing him over to the Gujarat Police. When I told him that we would not hand him over to the Punjab Police as he suspected but to the Maharashtra Police to face a trial, he could not believe it. We later did hand him over to the Maharashtra Police. He was tried in the Pune Jail for a protracted trial and later hanged. Terrorism gave Jinda a cause to live for. There was no question of diverting him from the path which he had chosen for himself. He justified the most heinous of his crimes in the name of the “Panth”. It is the combination of political factors and such traits in their personality that attracts people like Jinda to the terrorist movement. The sole aim of his life became commission of terrorist acts, which he firmly believed would in the end succeed in achieving their goal of “Khalistan”. There is no scope for any negotiations with such men. But such personality traits are seen only among the hard-core terrorists. There are of course other types of person among terrorist their supporter and sympathizers who are more amenable to negotiations and compromise. Ved Marwah Uncivil Wars: Pathology of Terrorism In India p. 16

I have watched the video of Swamy talking about Bhindranwale. Do not know who to believe. I will admit that he was uncorruptable and stood by his words. But to succeed in politics it takes power and finesse.

DUSHT ASHUTOSH , HAPPY JOURNEY TO NARAKS(HELL) FOR EVER. SIKH PANTH SHOULD DO MORE NAAM DI KAMAI FOR CHARDIKALA IN FUTURE.

Muktsar (Punjab), Jan 29 (IANS) Punjab Chief Minister Parkash Singh Badal Wednesday rejected a demand by his Delhi counterpart Arvind Kejriwal for setting up a Special Investigation Team (SIT) to probe the 1984 anti-Sikh riots. Addressing the media in Goniana village in Muktsar district, 240 km from here, Badal said there was "hardly any need for it (SIT probe) as several earlier high level inquiries conducted on the matter have pointed towards the role of Congress leaders in this planned mass massacre of Sikhs". He said the "need of the hour was to take exemplary action against the Congress leaders involved in this dastardly act so that succour could be provided to the victim families". It was time to give justice to the victims instead of setting up another SIT, he said. Reacting sharply to a statement by Congress vice president Rahul Gandhi that certain Congress leaders could be involved in the 1984 riots, Badal asked Rahul Gandhi what deterred the Congress and the union government from acting against the party leaders involved in the heinous act. Thousands of Sikhs were killed in various parts of India, especially in Delhi, in November 1984 in the aftermath of the assassination of then prime minister Indira Gandhi by her two Sikh bodyguards. Badal said Rahul Gandhi owed an answer to the public about why the Congress leaders involved in the riots have not been punished so far. "Instead of taking any action against these tainted leaders, the Congress party has not only been protecting them but they were rewarded by the party with pivotal posts, which reflected the anti-Sikh stance of the Congress," the chief minister said. The names of Congress leaders Sajjan Kumar, Jagdish Tytler and H.K.L. Bhagat (now deceased) had figured among those accused of instigating mobs during the riots. http://www.samachar.com/Badal-rejects-Kejriwals-demand-on-1984-riots-probe-ob3tKsagbfd.html What does this guy have to hide? Why can't he allow a fresh thorough investigation? Looks like his hands have more Sikh blood on them than we know of?!?!?!

Kejriwal has done more in 30 days for Sikh Human Rights than the Badal Dal and Sikh institutions have done in 30 years. Now why can't our Sants and Babas push for this kind of action?

Babar lineage: from his Daadke he is descended from Timur Lane and from his Naanke he is descended from Chingiz Khan. That's a deadly combination.

Yes it is very interesting, but please Sikha do not use racist terms as we all know how we would feel if we saw someone using racist term to Sikhs on Muslim sites? So please represent sikhi at all times. Also at that point of history, there would of been no Pakistanis as Pakistan was made in 1947.

Could some one post the following Shabads in both English , punjabi and with meanings or post a link to where they can be found - Aesi Marni Jo Marey And - gagan damama bajyo Thank you

ਭੈਰਉ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ਘਰੁ ੧ भैरउ महला ५ घरु १ Bẖairo mėhlā 5 gẖar 1 Bhairao, Fifth Mehl, First House: ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥ ੴ सतिगुर प्रसादि ॥ Ik▫oaʼnkār saṯgur parsāḏ. One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru: ਸਗਲੀ ਥੀਤਿ ਪਾਸਿ ਡਾਰਿ ਰਾਖੀ ॥ सगली थीति पासि डारि राखी ॥ Saglī thīṯ pās dār rākẖī. Setting aside all other days, it is said, ਅਸਟਮ ਥੀਤਿ ਗੋਵਿੰਦ ਜਨਮਾ ਸੀ ॥੧॥ असटम थीति गोविंद जनमा सी ॥१॥ Astam thīṯ govinḏ janmā sī. ||1|| that the Lord was born on the eighth lunar day. ||1|| ਭਰਮਿ ਭੂਲੇ ਨਰ ਕਰਤ ਕਚਰਾਇਣ ॥ भरमि भूले नर करत कचराइण ॥ Bẖaram bẖūle nar karaṯ kacẖrā▫iṇ. Deluded and confused by doubt, the mortal practices falsehood. ਜਨਮ ਮਰਣ ਤੇ ਰਹਤ ਨਾਰਾਇਣ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ जनम मरण ते रहत नाराइण ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥ Janam maraṇ ṯe rahaṯ nārā▫iṇ. ||1|| rahā▫o. The Lord is beyond birth and death. ||1||Pause|| ਕਰਿ ਪੰਜੀਰੁ ਖਵਾਇਓ ਚੋਰ ॥ करि पंजीरु खवाइओ चोर ॥ Kar panjīr kẖavā▫i▫o cẖor. You prepare sweet treats and feed them to your stone god. ਓਹੁ ਜਨਮਿ ਨ ਮਰੈ ਰੇ ਸਾਕਤ ਢੋਰ ॥੨॥ ओहु जनमि न मरै रे साकत ढोर ॥२॥ Oh janam na marai re sākaṯ dẖor. ||2|| God is not born, and He does not die, you foolish, faithless cynic! ||2|| ਸਗਲ ਪਰਾਧ ਦੇਹਿ ਲੋਰੋਨੀ ॥ सगल पराध देहि लोरोनी ॥ Sagal parāḏẖ ḏėh loronī. You sing lullabies to your stone god - this is the source of all your mistakes. ਸੋ ਮੁਖੁ ਜਲਉ ਜਿਤੁ ਕਹਹਿ ਠਾਕੁਰੁ ਜੋਨੀ ॥੩॥ सो मुखु जलउ जितु कहहि ठाकुरु जोनी ॥३॥ So mukẖ jala▫o jiṯ kahėh ṯẖākur jonī. ||3|| Let that mouth be burnt, which says that our Lord and Master is subject to birth. ||3|| ਜਨਮਿ ਨ ਮਰੈ ਨ ਆਵੈ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥ जनमि न मरै न आवै न जाइ ॥ Janam na marai na āvai na jā▫e. He is not born, and He does not die; He does not come and go in reincarnation. ਨਾਨਕ ਕਾ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਰਹਿਓ ਸਮਾਇ ॥੪॥੧॥ नानक का प्रभु रहिओ समाइ ॥४॥१॥ Nānak kā parabẖ rahi▫o samā▫e. ||4||1|| The God of Nanak is pervading and permeating everywhere. ||4||1|| What does the sangat think ?

all readers of this thread should vow to drop their last names

What do you normally do on a Friday night? Watch a movie with friends? Stay up late just for the heck of it? Sleep just because you can? Yea we do too. But, how about we dedicate one Friday a month to kirtan and sangat? Following in the footsteps of the UK Sangat, the Sikh Youth Federation will be hosting 'Thank God It's Friday' Kirtans on the last Friday of every month. Coming soon to a location near you! Last Friday. Every Month. See you there!!! Jan 31: Dasmesh Darbar (6pm-11pm) Feb 28: Location TBD (6pm-11pm) Source - https://www.facebook.com/events/210398935817064/?ref_newsfeed_story_type=regular

It's not about impressing anyone or fearing anyone. Use of a Kirpan should be a very last resort i.e: if your life is under threat. If you train and are skilled in unarmed combat you can easily defend yourself against common attacks like the one mentioned in this post, in this scenario the attackers were unarmed there is no need to draw a Kirpan. Do you realise what will happen if you draw a weapon an use it such a scenario against unarmed attackers, the result will most likely be a lenghty jail sentence plus negative publicity which can lead to the carrying of Kirpans being banned in a worst case scenario. Also it has to be said that the majority of Amritdharees who carry Kirpans sadly carry them for symbolic means..they probably have never removed them from their cases and they are probably blunt..and completely useless as real shastar or weapons. Secondly they have zero knowledge on how to deploy and utilise a kirpan, in this case you can end up being disarmed by your attackers and they can use your own weapon against you. They carry kirpans but have forsaken, forgotton and abondoned the Gurus Hukam to train the body and learn martial sciences and the arts of war. This is why it is crucial to train in combat arts which teach how to handle being attacked by multiples, how to handle being attacked by assailants who are armed, how to disarm opponents carrying weapons and understand their pyschology. You will not learn these things from the standard mcdojo watered down tae kwon do, karate, MMA classes that are popular today. You need to look at arts like Panantukan, Kali, Eskrima, Silat, Krabi Karabong etc etc..

United by Dharma, divided by law With Jains becoming India's sixth religious minority, the debate over Sikh, Jain & Buddhist personal laws could be reignited January 21, 2014 Last Updated at 12:35 IST On January 20, the government of India met a long-standing demand of the Jain community and officially declared them as Indias sixth religious minority community after Muslims, Christians, Sikhs, Buddhists and Zoroastrians. As a minority, Jains would get a share in central funds earmarked for welfare programmes and scholarships for religious minorities. They can also manage and administer their own educational institutions. While the development is not expected to change the existing socio-economic standing of Jains in Indian society as they already are a very prosperous community, it is nevertheless very important. Not only does it address Jain concerns of eroding identity and culture, but also could very well re-ignite the debate over separate personal laws for Sikhs, Jains and Buddhists in India. For long, Hindu society has looked upon these three religious groups as their own. From theologians to laymen, the refrain that is commonly heard is: They (Sikhs, Jains and Buddhists) are part of Sanatana Dharma. Nothing could be farther from the truth. For though Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism, like Hinduism, have been born in the Indian Subcontinent and have Dharma (law or duty) as the cornerstone of their beliefs with the result that the four faiths are called Dharmic or Indian religions their theological concepts vary vastly from each other. It is therefore a cause of great heartburn for Buddhists, Jains and Sikhs that Explanation II of Article 25 (freedom of conscience and free profession, practice and propagation of religion) of the Indian Constitution classifies them as Hindus, subject to Hindu personal laws. The explanation has been challenged legally many times, but still has not been altered. It reads as follows: "...The reference Hindus shall be construed as including a reference to persons professing Sikh, Jaina or Buddhist religion and the reference to Hindu religious institutions shall be construed accordingly. But now, with Jains getting minority status, albeit because of the Congress lust for political gains, could those who want Explanation II of Article 25 done away with, hope for some action there as well? Even more so, is it time that India has separate personal laws for Sikhs, Jains and Buddhists? The Republic of India recognizes the personal laws of five communities: Hindus (including Sikhs, Jains and Buddhists), Muslims, Christians, Jews and Zoroastrians. Hindu Personal Law, also known as Modern Hindu Law has its origins in Anglo-Hindu Law, which was formulated in 1772 in colonial India, under the then Governor General, Warren Hastings. It, in turn, has its origins in Classical Hindu Law, which is based on the teachings of the Shrutis (Vedas), Smritis (Puranas and Itihasa or the Epics) and Achara (the community norms and standards of a particular social group). After independence, the Indian government completed what the British had started: complete codification of Hindu personal laws with the passage of four Hindu Code Bills, namely the Hindu Marriage Act (1955), Hindu Succession Act (1956), Hindu Minority and Guardianship Act (1956) and Hindu Adoptions and Maintenance Act (1956). These code bills mainly deal with marriage, inheritance, custody of children and child adoption. So the question is: Should Buddhists, Jains and Sikhs have personal laws of their own? For the moment, only Sikhs have a separate marriage act of their own. In 2012, both houses of the Indian Parliament cleared the Anand Marriage Amendment Bill 2012. The bill paved the way for the validation of Sikh traditional marriages, amending the Anand Marriage Act of 1909, thus providing for compulsory registration of "Anand Karaj" marriages. But there is still no provision for divorce, which exists in the Hindu Marriage Act though. In Maharashtra, Buddhist scholar and state minister, Nitin Raut has been campaigning tirelessly for a separate Buddhist Marriage and Succession Act. But, the issue is, if separate personal laws are indeed to become a reality for the three communities, what would be on offer? Those who are against separate Buddhist, Jain and Sikh personal laws, argue that traditionally, these three communities had no codified jurisprudence and shared customary laws as applicable to Hindus. According to them, the Buddha, Mahavira and Guru Nanak were spiritual leaders who guided people on how to live an ethical life and attain salvation. They never tried to amend the laws of marriage, adoption, inheritance and succession and left them to the usages of the period and region. They also argue that there is hardly anything in the four Hindu Code Bills which is basically and essentially shastric or Hindu. Rather, these code bills are secular laws having no religious or spiritual overtones. They are Hindu only in name and not in substance. There is also the issue of the numerous controversies that would arise if the formulation of personal laws of Sikhs, Buddhists and Jains is set in motion. A good example to understand this is the Sikh Nanakshahi Calendar. Conceptualised by Canadian Sikh Pal Singh Purewal, the Nanakshahi Calendar was formed in the first place because many Sikhs felt that as a separate community, they needed to have a separate calendar of their own, like the Hindus and Muslims. Since Sikhisms birth, Hindus and Sikhs in the Punjab have been using the Vikrami Calender (Vikram Samvat) like most of North India. The adoption of the Nanakshahi Calender has not been smooth though, as not all sections of Sikh society have accepted it. Opposition has come from influential sects like the Nihangs and the Damdami Taksal seminary, who want to revert to the old calendar. The example of the Nanakshahi Calender shows that formulation of separate personal laws would be no smooth matter, given conflicting views of the people concerned. However, on the other side of the debate, proponents of separate personal laws feel (and rightly so) that the application of Hindu law to them gives an impression that their religions are not independent and are merely off-shoots of Hinduism. They take it as an attempt to denigrate and subordinate their respective religions. What can be the solution then? One option could be to rename the four Hindu Code Bills, removing the term Hindu from them, thus making it more acceptable to the people of the other three communities. The other option would be to formulate personal laws. It is a universal principle of law that a community should have exclusive right to evolve its personal law, or reform it, because the laws are its exclusive concern. Having said that, it must also be noted that such a process must only be conducted under the guidance of the best legal luminaries India and the world can offer. For such a process to begin, the first step would be to do away with Explanation II of Article 25. It is in the best interests of democracy and secularism in India. But in a country where competitive identity politics are the norm, can all this be done? My guess is as good as yours in this. Source - http://www.business-standard.com/article/opinion/united-by-dharma-divided-by-law-114012100308_1.html

we belive in yugas but science is not advance yet to talk about yugas do you ever read japji sahib? if you have read it everyday you would already know the answer and stop posting posts like these

Gianni Sant Singh Ji Maskeen basically said all of that is false we believe in the four yugs but not in that way. Maskeen Ji said that the yugs dont come in a linear fashion one after another but rather theyre all here at the same time depending on the state of mind of the humans that live in them for example although the majority of the world is in kalyug when your in the company of true sants that is satyug. Maskeen ji also said that at one time one yug is predominant over all others right now kalyug is dominant over all others and the time it takes for the dominant yug to change is roughly 2500 years not lakhs of years like hindus claim, now I dont remember the details(its been a while since I've heard the katha) but maskeen ji uses bhai gurdass jis varaan to prove this. They also said that the four yugs can be used to to represent the stages of a human life: Satyug is the gestation period when the baby is in the womb and connected with god and desires nothing else, Tretyug is childhood when although the innocent child feels no lust it has a desire for power i.e greed for other childrens toys and a stubborn refusal to share with others, Dvaparyug is youth when a young works to earn a living and gives in to lust to create future generations and finally kalyug is old age when the fires of all the unfulfilled desires burn the mind and render him incapable of remembering god. Again its been a while since I've heard the katha so I paraphrased alot of whats been said and left alot of things out

Hi it would be a great help if I could get some response in regards to these questions. I'm writing my Dissertation paper on the turban. 1. what does the turban represent for you personally? Tradition, protective covering for hair & head, Guru ji's crown. 2. How does the pagh determine your personality? (if it doesn't why?) Principled 3. How does it construct your physical appearance? (by wearing a pagh how do you perceive yourself and how do others look at you) Makes me look religious, law abiding & mature. 4. whats the style of your pagh? (the way its tied, the style, the colour significance) and why? Freestyle. Usually tie a seven meter (double) Rubia turban. All colours or which look good on me. 5. Is it a cultural and or religious purpose and why? Tying a Turban is more than a cultural or religious practice. It is a practical as well as comfortable way to protect your hair & head from weather & injuries. 6. Is there any gender distinctions(differences) in wearing and tieing a pagh? (For example through my observations I noted most men wear a pagh [not necessarily religious] whereas women only wear it for religious reasons, and they mostly cover the pagh with a chunni where as men do not.) What is your take on this difference? I don't think there's any difference, it's a matter of choice. Whatever is practical, comfortable & looks good on them. Am pro Chunni, it makes them look like a true Kaur ie Princess (Feminine) All responses and opinions are non judgemental. I would like genuine opinions rather than a definition or generalisations

This is also the cause of our Sikh kids choosing to let it all go because kids out here don't like to deal with unnecessary headaches. The just rather follow the mainstream white media or black for that matter and give 2 about Sikhi.

Look this is for your health. Be sensible and use your brain, if the doctors say it is not safe to have an MRI scan with your kara and kirpan then take them off and put them back on afterwards. If you had to have brain surgery then wouldn't you remove your pagh?

http://www.panthic.org/articles/5195 PANTHIC.ORG Published on December 31, 2009 Just days before the infamous Raag is scheduled to appear before the five Singh Sahibans at Sri Akal Takht, and provide explanations for his blasphemous statements, the heretic continues to dupe and mislead the the Sikh Sangat on a daily basis. The Ragi has declined to appear at Sri Akal Takht again to explain his blasphemous statements and behavior. Meanwhile, the followers of the Raagi have bent over backwards for their master in trying to remove any evidence that might launch a desperate attempt to remove any audio/video evidence that could possibly hurt the Ragi and permanently ex-communicate him from the Panth. Canadian and American Gurdwara Support Sri Akal Takht Sahib Shocked with the Ragi's recent heretical statements, dozens of Sikh organizations and Gurdwaras in North America made an open appeal to the Sikh Nation to be vigilant against the anti-Panthic actions of the blasphemous Ragi and his Kala-Afghani cohorts. Furthermore, the organizations requested the Sikh Panth to discipline the Ragi for condemning and rejecting the sacred Nitnem Banis, the practice of the Amrit-Sanchar, and the Sikh Ardas by calling it devi worship. Some of the organizations that collectively united to combat the infamous raagi include: Sri Singh Sabha Malton, Sri Guru Nanak Sikh Center, Canadian Association of Sikh Students, Akhand Kirtani Jathas (Toronto and California), Kaurs United, Khalsa Alliance (USA), Baba Deep Singh Gatka Akharra, Damdami Taksal (Canada and United States), Panthic Network, Gurdwara Sikh Sangat Brampton, Gurwara Tapoban Sahib, Sacha Sauda Parchar Society, GurSikh Temple Baba Budha Ji Hamilton, GurSikh Sangat Hamilton-Wentworth, Gurdwara Jot Parkash Sahib, Gurdwara Dasmesh Darbar, Sikh Spiritual Society, Seva Charitable Missionary Society, and the Sikh Cultural Society of Metropolitan Windsor, Pacific Coast Khalsa Diwan Society (Gurdwara Sahib Stockton, California), Gurdwara Gur Nanak Parkash Tracy, Gurdwara Gurmat Parkash Manteca, Gurdwara Nanak Parkash, Fresno, Gurdwara Bradshaw (Sacramento Sikh Society), Gurdwara Sikh Center, El Sobrante, Gurdwara Sahib Antelope, Gurdwara Sahib Reno Nevada, and many others. On November 17th, the Ragi was directed by Sri Akal Takht Sahib to appear before the five Singh Sahibans and provide explanation for the offending remarks he had made about Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji at a Rochester, New York gurdwara..The directive by Sri Akal Takht Sahib also declared the Ragi as a "Guru-Nindak" who, due to ego and self-interest, failed to uphold the respect and maryada of the sacred Takht Sahib. Through a collaborative effort and sufficient evidence, the North American Sikh Sangat was able to convince Sri Akal Takht that Raagi has continued to propagate his manmat philosophy. Thus, the five Singh Sahibans issued an edict from Sri Akal Takht Sahib declaring the controversial Ragi Darshan Singh a 'Tankhayia' (apostate). The Ragi was sternly chastised for failing to appear at the apex Sikh Takht at 12 noon on December 5th of 2009 as required. Raagi failed to appear before the Sri Akal Takht because he knew the evidence was highly in favor of his ex-communication. Thus he was trying to gain more time to change, and delete his previous statements. Cronies attempt to remove audio/video evidence against Ragi It appears that followers of the pseudo scholar have attempted to remove all evidence of the Guru-Nindak. Recently followers of the pseudo scholar tried to remove all videos from you tube which were posted by the website Patshahi10.org and Panthic.org. However, both sites have managed to preserve this evidence for the benefit of the Sikh Sangat which can be viewed at the respective sites. Followers of the Guru-Nindak have also made attempts to shut down sites, including Panthic.org citing copyright violations on the audio/video material, but they have not made any success in doing so. Panthic websites will continue to expose Guru-Nindaks /Government sponsored Agents. Audio and Video Evidence agains the Ragi is still preserved at: http://www.panthic.org/articles/5177 and http://www.patshahi10.org. The infamous Raagi has a reputation of going back on changing, and deleting his previous statements. The truth of the matter is the manmukh Raagi will do anything that favors his political career. During the turbulent times post Operation Blue Star the Raagi appeared to be a staunch supporter of an independent Sikh State and he would often refer to the Gurbani of Sri Dasmesh Pita Ji as a tool in his speeches. However, now he has completely rejected the concept of a Sikh State and has made blasphemous remarks directed towards the Gurbani of Sri Dasmesh Pita Ji. It appears that the Raagis true motives are only to undermine the Sikh leadership and create chaos. The raagi has never had any sincere interest in serving the Panth. He only hopes to gain controversy, collect followers, and confuse the Sikh Sangat. It is a well known fact that the Ragi walked away from his Panthic commitments and promises during the late 1980's, see: http://www.panthic.org/articles/5193 (RAGI DARSHAN SINGH - A TRAITOR AMIDST THE SIKHS). Due to these misdeeds, he will never be honored in this world or the next. ਕਰੈ ਬਚਨ ਜੋ ਪਾਲੈ ਨਾਹੀਂ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਸਿੰਘ ਤਿਸ ਠੌਰ ਨ ਆਹੀ ॥ Those who do not live by their word will be abandoned forever.. (Rehatnama Bhai Nand Laal Jee)