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Anyone else notice where these emergent trends will end?

works for me try again. Military service is good thing I'm not against it. What I'm against is the agreement/covenant without anything in return for British Sikhs and the wider global Sikh community I am specifically talking about Sikhs fighting for british army and state not Sikhs of other countries or India they have their own issues that need addressing on a separate thread. I'm talking about Sikhs who are alleged to signed an agreement with the british army to fight for QUEEN and country. To fight for the UK is fair enough as thats their home so they are fighting in defence of their nation but to fight for Queen? No thanks... To fight for illegal wars aboard like iraq and elsewhere? No thanks Sikhs are not ment to be cannon fodder to be used in other peoples wars and conflicts for economic gains of rich white western oligarch elites. Sikhs are ment to fight for their religion and their values/principles if they are in a army whose interests come in conflict with those Sikh values then how can you be proud to fight for such an army? Have you not seen what the british have done to the Sikhs in india since they dismantled the Sikh empire? Prevented a viable Khalistan, Helped in the Sikh genocide by aiding indian govt in 1984, And off course jalliwalah bag massacre. The britiish army and the state who hasnt given any assurances or anything to British Sikhs yet want their military service and manpower. Its one sided bad deal and the issues I outlined have not been addressed by you and other cucked Sikhs who do not realise that as a Sikh you fight for Sikh interests first above any non-sikh national Geo-political interests.

Great way to keep Sikhs down. Call them cucks for pursuing careers in the military that can eventually become an asset to Panth. General Shabeg Singh wasn't a General for Khalistan before he became a true General. Smarten up. So because GB isnt pushing forward our narrative you're saying we should say we won't serve? What kind of a loser mentality is that? No matter what field you go into become a powerhouse. In military become high ranking and pursue excellence. Perhaps you're diffusing your own limitations on others?

Its mostly those black and white converts to salafi islam that become these nutjob muslim terrorists You dont get those who are from shia and sufi sects if you do the analysis. Also isnt it strange that islam seems to attract these kinda violent criminal losers in life whereas Sikhi attracts whites and blacks who want to better themselves. I havent seen one bad black convert to sikhi yet all have been good people from what I have seen about them. Yet black converts to Islam (particularly salafi sect) have mostly been thugs who want to harm and kill innocent people in one way or another. I was talking to a white guy convert to islam few days ago asked him why he chose islam he said cos he wanted to find a woman who was traditional and strict and not like the easy whoesih feminist white women had become. He wanted to find a nice traditional desi muslim girl thinking he would have no problem as he is a muslim now but he found out even western desi girls have lost the quality of what muslim guys want and thought desi girls were like. So now he is stuck and is frustrated with how his life has turned out and what has become of muslim girls who are brainwashed with feminism and other non-family values nonsense.

whilst I agree that sikh women need to exchange ideas and refocus on sikhi , I do not think creating some kind of elitist group is going to be helpful .Our ancestors shared and did vichar in their lives , whilst doing the daily stuff and still had time to create sangat. either create an open network to support everyone or call it like it is , a 'pat ourselves on the back' gang. there is a saying in english 'self-praise is no recommendation' Guru ji says it much better 'whosoever calls themselves good, good never comes near'

WJKK WJKF bhenji, as long as you are in chardikala now, everything should be. Though I am not sure how much of your past should you relieve to the individual?

Gurbani speaks against Yoga in the sense that its the way to God. Yogis were an odd bunch, some walked around naked, some were living in mountains. Yoga like that, that's totally anti-gurmat for Sikhs. If there are Sikhs doing it for exercise then its fine, its a nice way to relax, release stress and stay healthy. That's fine as well, however actively encouraging it as a tool to get close to God is something completely different. Tantric Yoga has aspects of eroticism within it. I can't speak to if its done in other places but its got a huge following in certain parts of India. Though this whole topic is alot more deeper than people let on.

You said you didn't agree with him before, He's a brahmgyani. If you don't have his level of understanding then fine, just accept his word and move on rather than attaching yourself to whatever you want. You dont have his level, I don't have his level so use your brain and just accept he's right and move on. But of course that would mean you have to accept that all your thoughts and views are nothing more than lies and we can't have that can we? Yeah I clearly am not questioning that. The fact that I asked people stick to posting Gurbani here. Yes clearly I didn't question these. oh god. I've been exposed. Guys quick, Preeto's caught onto my game. I'm asking people not to post trashy stuff and stick to posting Gurbani. Oh the shame...the humiliation. I don't agree with it at all. I only believe Gurbani should be sung along with Bhai Nand Lal Ji and Bhai Gurdas Ji's varans and writings. So where is my bias? Only bias I have is towards Gurbani, something clearly you lack. Maybe if you bothered visiting their facebook page you'd know its ALL about Ram Chander. So please, cut the garbage that it can be applied to anywhere. By that Logic I could post this song Lets have a look at the Lyrics guys.

And once again maybe if you used your brain instead of your own manmat you'd know that Bhai Sahib already addressed all that. Of course you'd call him a liar because he doesn't agree with you. Anything other than Gurbani is devoid of Naam Ras. I could write "God is Great" same message in Gurbani but my statement is devoid of Naam Ras But Gurbani isn't. That whole eulogy is about Rama, an incarnation of Vishnu and the same person Gurbani calls an insect. So please. If you want to worship him go ahead, just stick to posting Gurbani here.

Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir singh Ji said that all Scriptures that aren't Gurbani are devoid of Naam ras. So Did Guru Gobind Singh Ji. This is really deep Kirtan from Dasam Bani.

Don't agree to it, then. Beyond the age and height issues, what's she like as a person? What's her family dynamic like? Is the father the one who wears the trousers in the household, or does the mother? Siblings and their habits? What's your intuition telling you? These are all essential factors that are just as important as age and height.

Yes I think its a sort of rebellion against feminised pro-homosexual western world, they want to retain that masculinity so they opt to convert for Islam which is seen as the ultimate male dominance faith and clamps down on womens rights servery. Christianity has failed them because strong christians get rolled over by feminists (women bishops issue) and gays during legal cases (christian hotels, gay cakes,etc). Atheism isnt an option as its an anarchy free for all Marxist ideology where violence and crimes against anyone is justified because theres no higher power to answer to and already they are living the life of an atheist usually so they want a change. They dont look into eastern faiths because they feel its too complicated to understand usually these violent offenders have very low IQ and do not have the ability to understand dharmic faiths or they think other religions are too small a religion to convert to. So Islam is the attractive choice because its closer to abrahmic Christianity, they have a large support group of converts and born muslims and it gives a military type structure and discipline that these violent criminal minded loosers of society want and crave for. Plus it gives them justification to vent their anger and rage at the system and governments of their home countries for attacking muslim countries and civilians aboard. So all in all they all the violent nutjobs are attracted to salafi Islam and this threat wont go away as its been with islam since it was founded. The only solution to the madness is to clamp down on the islamic ideology altogether to prevent them converting people and making it so easy to have large demographics in non-muslim societies.

The muslims are brave because they fight in numbers. They are more fractious than us which is why they focus on the siege mentality to keep themselves united. Our so called fractures are mere petty squabbles compared to the Islamic fractures. Our concept of unity is not the same as theirs. Theoretically, if there were Sikhs in prison who became Amritdhari, you would not have these gangs developing with this "If you want our halal food, convert!". Our brothers would probably prepare langar for the whole prison and would do far more to unite prisoners. It won't be perfect but it reduce a lot of these tensions. Our way ultimately is the better way.

The reason of your/our sadness is due to the mind, which does not alow us to understand what sikhee is about, thus our shaky faith in Wahiguru. Go beyond the mind, by following the Hukum faithfully, then there is noi room for sadness, rather only happiness.

I'd say caution is warranted here, given a full century of outright manipulation of dumb Sikhs in the British military. These people play us so well, they'll have hordes of poor peasants jumping around like dimwitted poster boys if we aren't careful. They did it before, so it wouldn't be the first time. If you want to learn how to use a gun, go to a gun range.

Big Tera paji, a shabad for you, (also on another post).

Guest Anonymous ji, you need to see a professional for your anxiety issues. It's nothing to be afraid of. Counselling is a good idea, they will give you methods to deal with your anxieties, trust issues and any fears, no matter how small they maybe. The thing is you don't want this to escalate into something bigger. If you don't wish to see a professional, there are many resources online that you can refer to and work on those self management tools. It's good that you are experiencing positivity from Gurbani and that Guruji's words are allowing you to see life from a different perspective to what you are used to. Simran will help you, not only to relax your mind, but also your soul and build your bhagti, aswell as help reduce any bad karams. "Am I supposed to in some way embrace the pain and see it one as the same as pleasure? " Gurmukhs see pain and pleasure as one, as they don't focus on the physical body and know that it isn't permanent. Hukam - God's Will, and acceptance of it is what makes them see pain and pleasure as both. ਜੇ ਸੁਖੁ ਦੇਹਿ ਤ ਤੁਝਹਿ ਅਰਾਧੀ ਦੁਖਿ ਭੀ ਤੁਝੈ ਧਿਆਈ ॥੨॥ Jae Sukh Dhaehi Th Thujhehi Araadhhee Dhukh Bhee Thujhai Dhhiaaee ||2|| जे सुखु देहि त तुझहि अराधी दुखि भी तुझै धिआई ॥२॥ If You will bless me with happiness, then I will worship and adore You. Even in pain, I will meditate on You. ||2|| SGGS ji Ang 757 ?? Dhan Guru Ram Das ji We can learn from this and let go of haumai (ego), and when one puts themselves in the hand of God, and when they grace their blessings, they give strength to deal with the pain and hardships or they reduce that pain. Some shabads to help with the anxiety issues:

How many of them are "religious" and "spiritual" in prison like they are "gay for the stay" And the ones that go to Syria to fight for ISIS are hardly less animalistic. There are a lot of perks to be muslim in prison, it's like being bribed. I very much doubt they cook their own food, they probably get their food from outside. What it means is that prison services are discriminating against non muslim prisoners. This muslim conversion is like a gang and yes it is like a brotherhood but muslim brotherhood is built on a "us" versus "them" mentality. Which makes sense because they are in a constant state of war "Dar Ul Harb vs Darl Ul Salam ". It is not like a Sikh brotherhood. True brotherhood is not built on antagonism. However, if you feel this great respect for this being that you are an east end cockney bad boy tearaway ensure you are not becoming a dhimmi.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Sometimes we need to reflect inward, what I'm about to say may even hurt a little more (not my intention, but I think it will) during the ardaas when you were asking for high marks ji, before you asked you heard of Gurmukhs who undoubtedly had it way worse, mothers who had children cut into pieces put around like a necklace, Gurmukhs who were tortured to death by grinders, now if we think about it, they have more of a reason to be mad then you do. They lost there lives. You had one bad exam grade. They still at the end of the day said thank you to mahraj. They had such priceless thinking. We can't even be the dust on there feet! That's the pyar we as Sikhs should aspire for. To just get sad with mahraj over one grade, I don't think that the pyar for mahraj was there at all in the beginning, I think that the pyar may have been for someone getting the job done, that someone we (I'm in the same boat) decided was mahraj, and as long as our desires were filled we didn't have a problem, one exam grade and like the manmukhs we are (again you and me both) abandon mahraj. So now we have a choice, accept that we messed up ask for forgiveness and stand back up, or get mad stay mad, until we find someone else who can bless us (Loads of these "babay" out there) with good grades and live life based on lies. You will get true sikhi, you'll get the true pyar, just stay strong. If any of my words offend you. I'm sorry. If our ithhaas/gurmuth philosophy offended you, I'm not sorry. Again I'm the type of pakhand to go out there and tell other people this, yet I myself probably would get mad over doing an ardaas like you did. I'm one of those who can talk the talk, but can't walk the walk. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

I think the Internet can help big time in this.

He's got a lot to learn. He's gotta grab on to the bhakti marg and then he may start seeing the real jot amongst us all. Don't worry,>>I used to be much worse than him with so much hate and krodh. Sikhi can be quite confusing if people are just stuck on the outer surface. Being a Sikh is supposed to make you realise where other spiritual teachers from different faiths have gone wrong NOT the faiths. Guru or bani NEVER speaks against a single religion but it speaks against the fat controllers that distort the religions with blind practice. As for Christianity, it's very misunderstood and if a Sikh is slating it >>then that Sikh has a lot to learn yet

Very bad move. This type of diet is deadly. Lower the carbs and hunt for protein and good fat sources.

Goreh were very clever in getting many different people's into fighting for them. Some of them weren't even Jatt and not even from the pinds. However, coming back to topic. Prisons are breeding grounds for conversions. A lot of these attacks are done by converts. British prison service is a mess and the authorities are doing nothing about this.

Jeera is a good source of iron.

Ok so you didn't pass your test. But you can hardly blame God for that. Even though you put in a lot of work, I understand that, but maybe it wasn't enough, otherwise you would have passed right? This is the thing, we tend to do paat to receive something. I'm not saying don't ask Waheguru for anything, because they are the only one that will bless and even I do ardas to them for help at times. But what I'm saying is, if you didn't receive what you wished for, don't be upset with Waheguru too much with the result, maybe there's a diversion coming in your life or it wasn't that you were to pass it because of something else or another opportunity. This time of sadness will pass too, it's normal to feel this way. I read somewhere once, God gives us what we need, not what we desire. I'm still trying to think of how this relates to my life too. What's done is done now and it can't be reversed. Now you have to think what to do next, what are your other options. But first you should relax take a break and not keep dwelling on what's happened. Think positive that something good is in store in the future. I know this sounds weird, but one hasn't seen their future, you shouldn't predict your future on your present situation.

There is no yoga that relates to sex. Even if there were, it has nothing to do with yoga that the Sikh should be concerned about. You are foolishly implying that 3ho is all about some weird yoga and sex >>>>>you are very wrong my friend. You will claim I am wrong and I will say you are. We can carry on like idiots doing this, which is why I asked where gurbani speaks against yoga. I mean pangti >>line for line and shabad by shabad>>using your own words. >>Then we shall see. I don' want no posting of videos or flanna themkhara said this and that. Plain gurbani and constructive workings by individual Sikhs.

Nothing, i just like posting random nonsense based on fact on the internet.

Perfect example of troll!

Must be the Japanese in me...sorry, I'm a disgrace.

Do any of you guys know what Yoga means? @Akalifauj, you clearly don't know if gurbani speaks against yoga or not.. I challenge you for evidence.> shabad by shabad and line by line > your own words and then we shall see.

look at it this way , what kind of girls have zero/minimal hair on their armpits , legs and bikini area ...pre-pubescent girls i.e. underage girls ...do you want to look like that and what kind of males will you attract ? Those who find that look/feel appealing i.e. suspect Why not do what many of our brothers do and tie more beautiful dastars , elaborate in line , multicolours, make it about your crown not your face . Clothing can be lighterweight but well-cut, simple yet memorable , revive pride in punjabi rav pyjama you don't have to have your legs out to be fashionable these days . you can be well groomed despite the lack of makeup , comb your eyebrows, smooth them with fingertips you don't need to pluck to look sleek, moisturize your skin, eat loads of fresh fruit to get beautiful skin and drink loads of water so you eliminate breakouts , it's not that hard. Your lips and cheeks will have their own internal rosiness skip the blush. exercise daily and your yes will sparkle and you'll an air of confidence from knowing you are Guru Pita ji's beloved daughter.