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Fateh ji Abhyaas has four main stages ji: 1. Baikhri (mouth): this is the beginning stage. jaap is done with mouth open using our tongue. Basically chanting like we talk normally. Abhiyaas starts off loud as the mind is not used to bhagti so is constantly running, hence we do simian loudly so it's easier to concentrate at this stage. ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਹੁ ਜਪੁ ਰਸਨਾ ॥ Meditate on the Name of the Lord, Har, Har - chant it with your tongue. 2. Madham (throat): As the mind is becoming accustomed to listening to the shabad, we can now lower our voice to whispering jaap. as our mouth is open but we are using our breaths, this jaap occurs at the throat. If the mind starts to run go back to stage 1, then slowly turn it to whispering again. 3. pasanti (hirdha): the most important stage to reach as a gursikh. jaap turns to simran. now our mind begins to chant. there is no need to open our mouth or make any noise, all the sound is internalised. in this stage simran is matched with our breathing: ਸਾਸ ਸਾਸ ਸਾਸ ਹੈ ਜੇਤੇ ਮੈ ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਸਮੑਾਰੇ ॥ With as many breaths as I have, I chant the Naam, under Guru's Instructions. ਜੋ ਸਾਸਿ ਗਿਰਾਸਿ ਧਿਆਏ ਮੇਰਾ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਸੋ ਗੁਰਸਿਖੁ ਗੁਰੂ ਮਨਿ ਭਾਵੈ ॥ One who meditates on my Lord, Har, Har, with every breath and every morsel of food - that GurSikh becomes pleasing to the Guru's Mind. 24/7 simran occurs at this stage. we are constantly breathing, we breath when we talk, sleep go to work etc. guru sahib has given an instruction to gursikh many times for our simran to be going 24/7: ਆਠ ਪਹਰ ਹਰਿ ਕਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਲੇਇ ॥ Twenty-four hours a day, he takes the Name of the Lord. ਊਠਤ ਬੈਠਤ ਸੋਵਤ ਜਾਗਤ ਹਰਿ ਧਿਆਈਐ ਸਗਲ ਅਵਰਦਾ ਜੀਉ ॥੧॥ While standing and sitting, while sleeping and while awake, meditate on the Lord, all your life. ||1|| ਊਠਤ ਬੈਠਤ ਸੋਵਤ ਜਾਗਤ ਸਦਾ ਸਦਾ ਹਰਿ ਧਿਆਈਐ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ Sitting down, standing up, sleeping and waking, forever and ever, meditate on the Lord. ||1||Pause|| As our simran is now internalised and matched with breathing, we can do simran all the time. Whatever we do throughout the day, that is what we dream in the night. if we are constantly chanting with out breaths throughout the day it will occur when we are sleeping as well. when our eyes open at amritvela, if simran Is going on inside that means mind ws chanting while asleep. This is why matching simran with our breaths (swass swass or swaas graas) is so important. it's the technique guru sahib has given. when every breath is connected to Abhiyaas, guru sahib has himself called that gursikh a sant: ਜਿਨਾ ਸਾਸਿ ਗਿਰਾਸਿ ਨ ਵਿਸਰੈ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮਾਂ ਮਨਿ ਮੰਤੁ ॥ Those who do not forget the Lord, with each breath and morsel of food, whose minds are filled with the Mantra of the Lord's Name ਧੰਨੁ ਸਿ ਸੇਈ ਨਾਨਕਾ ਪੂਰਨੁ ਸੋਈ ਸੰਤੁ ॥੧॥ - they alone are blessed; O Nanak, they are the perfect Saints. ||1|| this is the technique Maharaj is referring to in this Shabad: ਨਾਨਕ ਸਤਿਗੁਰਿ ਭੇਟਿਐ ਪੂਰੀ ਹੋਵੈ ਜੁਗਤਿ ॥ O Nanak, meeting the True Guru, one comes to know the Perfect Way. ਹਸੰਦਿਆ ਖੇਲੰਦਿਆ ਪੈਨੰਦਿਆ ਖਾਵੰਦਿਆ ਵਿਚੇ ਹੋਵੈ ਮੁਕਤਿ ॥੨॥ While laughing, playing, dressing and eating, he is liberated. ||2|| because while "laughing, playing, dressing and eating" we are breathing, and if we have reached this stage where simran is connected to our breaths then Abhiyaas doesn't stop while doing any of those activities. Maharaj has even said: ਜਿਨ ਹਰਿ ਹਿਰਦੈ ਨਾਮੁ ਨ ਬਸਿਓ ਤਿਨ ਮਾਤ ਕੀਜੈ ਹਰਿ ਬਾਂਝਾ ॥ The Lord's Name does not abide within their hearts - their mothers should have been sterile. Thus, mind must begin to do Abhiyaas with every breath. this is the technique. you don't need to go into the forest, or spend your life with a sant. How merciful Maharaj is. The technique to salvation is as simple as that. Our breathing is going on constantly, just match your simran with it internally. But don't be fooled! The technique may be simple, but for the mind to begin chanting it takes a lot of effort. We should dedicate around 2 hours at amritvela to reach this stage. but don't rush. start off with 15 mins then work your way up. ਮੁਖਹੁ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਕਰੈ ਵਿਰਲੈ ਹਿਰਦੈ ਵਸਾਇਆ ॥ Everyone can chant the Name of the Lord, Har, Har with their mouths, but only a few enshrine it within their hearts. ਨਾਨਕ ਜਿਨ ਕੈ ਹਿਰਦੈ ਵਸਿਆ ਮੋਖ ਮੁਕਤਿ ਤਿਨੑ ਪਾਇਆ ॥੮॥੨॥ O Nanak, those who enshrine the Lord within their hearts, attain liberation and emancipation. ||8||2|| ਰਾਮ ਰਾਮ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਕਹੈ ਕਹਿਐ ਰਾਮੁ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥ Everyone chants the Lord's Name, Raam, Raam; but by such chanting, the Lord is not obtained. ਗੁਰ ਪਰਸਾਦੀ ਰਾਮੁ ਮਨਿ ਵਸੈ ਤਾ ਫਲੁ ਪਾਵੈ ਕੋਇ ॥੧॥ By Guru's Grace, the Lord comes to dwell in the mind, and then, the fruits are obtained. ||1|| when simran is internalised then no one knows you are doing it. you can go to work, eat, sit with your family they'll all be oblivious to the simran going on within: ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਕੀ ਐਸੀ ਵਡਿਆਈ ॥ Such is the Glory of the True Guru; ਪੁਤ੍ਰ ਕਲਤ੍ਰ ਵਿਚੇ ਗਤਿ ਪਾਈ ॥੨॥ in the midst of children and spouses, they attain emancipation. ||2|| 4. Para (nabhi) when simran is connected to our breaths then it will go right down to the source of our breaths, our nabhi. at this stage our breath is seated at navel and our consciousness rises to the tenth gate. ਨਾਭਿ ਪਵਨੁ ਘਰਿ ਆਸਣਿ ਬੈਸੈ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਖੋਜਤ ਤਤੁ ਲਹੈ ॥ The breath is seated in the home of the navel; the Gurmukh searches, and finds the essence of reality. ਸੁ ਸਬਦੁ ਨਿਰੰਤਰਿ ਨਿਜ ਘਰਿ ਆਛੈ ਤ੍ਰਿਭਵਣ ਜੋਤਿ ਸੁ ਸਬਦਿ ਲਹੈ ॥ This Shabad permeates the nucleus of the self, deep within, in its own home; the Light of this Shabad pervades the three worlds. at this stage the lotus which is upside down in our nabhi will turn upright and we will begin to hear anhad shabad, drink amrit rass and see the jyot of Maharaj within our hirdha. this cannot be explained, only experienced. ਕਹਿਬੇ ਕਉ ਸੋਭਾ ਨਹੀ ਦੇਖਾ ਹੀ ਪਰਵਾਨੁ ॥੧੨੧॥ I cannot describe its sublime glory; it has to be seen to be appreciated. ||121|| Sikhi is practical. guru sahib never said trust in me and in death you shall see I was telling the truth as the prophets of other religions have said. guru sahib is saying do simran, and see it for yourself. to summarise: jaap begins out loud with our tongue it then goes quieter to whispering jaap is internalised with our breaths, turns to simran, mouth is closed, shabad is vibrating inside simran travles to nabhi, lotus is turned upright, tenth gate is opened, anhad shabad, amrit rass and jyot parkash.

That is why you cannot rely on English. Learn how to read, listen and write punjabi.

Many Sikhs choose not to get married. Baba Buddha Ji, Bhai Gurdas Ji, Baba Deep Singh Ji, Sant Isher Singh Ji, Baba Thakur Singh Ji. It’s not an obligation for a Sikh to get married. Maharaj has supported a Grihasti Jeevan, but no where have they made it mandatory. Some Mahapurakhs solely don’t get married so that they can dedicate every nimakh to Prabhu Pati Parmatma. Another reason which Baba Ji themselves said in 1990 was that they were not going to marry because they were going to leave their body before the age of 40 and it wouldn’t be fair to leave a Singhni and children.

The meeting with Dhadrianwale is not suspicious. The picture is from 2006 when many Mahapurakhs supported him and before any allegations came to light. I’m sure a Sevadar of Baba Ji has pictures of their Antim Sareer. Best bet would be to ask the family of Baba Ji who are still in Smethwick or the family where Baba Ji left their body in California.

Beard is normally kept covered during Seva according to Nanaksar Maryada. Kes also falls out when your Bhagti gets intense, this was the same with Sant Jarnail Singh Ji.

Any amount of bandgi we could ever do is no more significant than a young child running up to their parent at the end of school to show the painting they made. The painting is a few brush marks, nothing special. But still the parent praises their child and proudly hangs the painting on the fridge at home. Why? Because the painting was made with genuine love and innocence, even the child wanting to show their parent what they made was out of love. There was no ego of wanting to show themself to be the best artist. A mahapurkh did bachan that the ultimate aim of human life is not reaching sachkhand. The ultimate aim is to achieve union of our Surat with Gur-Shabad. Like a person stuck down a hole thinking their aim is to reach the top. Yes and no. Yes that is the goal, but setting that goal does not actually get them out. Their job is to grab hold tightly of the rope thrown down to them and not let go. Pulling them to the top is the job of the person who came to rescue them. While sachkhand is where we dream to go, the thing is, that place is so great beyond all comprehension or imagination. If we apply our logic of how to reach there we will definitely fall short and not make it. Your best guess of sachkhand won't even be 0.00000001% of how majestic or anand it actually is, for that's the place where all souls of the true bhagat, bhramgiani, sants even God himself reside. Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj came to help us in kalyug by giving Shabad di daat. Our only real hope is to attach completely our Surat with the Gur-Shabad. There should be deep emotion, surrender and trust. It's the surrender of our Surat unto that Gur-Shabad which results in the soul embarking on Surat Di Yatra back home to sachkhand. Gur-Shabad is ALIVE. It's magnetized in qualities of the Satguru. Ocean of compassion, unconditional love, destroyer of pain, everlasting peace, liberator of reincarnation and so much more. We just have to lose ourself in anand of meditating on the Gur-Shabad, the rest is his kirpa

It's like they want to drive the forum into oblivion?

Hi, where can we read the accounts recorded by the afghans? I would love to actually read their accounts because I hear so many different versions all the time.

Thats what Bhai Jagraj Singh Ji talked about too..its in the video posted on here.. Our community is our worst enemy though..everyone pulling each other leg and too much jealousy. They dont like seeing others succeed from what I've seen ...

Sikhs have Khalsa Credit Union in Vancouver and lower BC.

They pretty much own Pakistan, Afghanistan, Africa, and heavy investments Gulf states and Iran. Think Modi has banned alot of Chinese businesses, but if Reliance is involved with Chinese investors, and yet India vs China are economic wars then that will be very interesting to see how Reliance will end up few years...hopefully Chinese wont go after him like his brother.....

yep and who owns that oil and is close to Modi...Mukesh Ambani Gujju worth 85 billion dollars.. His father was also very close to Indra Gandhi when she was pm

reasons why that report was promoted https://pressprogress.ca/right-wing-think-tank-accused-of-demonizing-sikh-canadians-also-works-to-send-canadian-oil-to-india/

I think the only way the wealthy Sikhs would invest in furthering the panth's interests is if their personal interests align with it. That same Sikh would give a brown envelope to someone in the planning department in a local council for a real estate deal. Then we could pivot their interests from internal to external. I know this is simplistic and needs a bit more embellishing.

@MisterrSingh Well Said........ Just look at whats happening to Punjab farmers right now

There is a way. Just because those Gujuratis are worth billions does not mean we cannot carve our own influence. Their interests are not necessarily against our interests even though they may not align. Those Gujjus tend to be based on the west coast like Gujurat and Maharashtra. As Gujjuland gets wealthier, there could be a point where they get more arrogant and think that the rest of India is holding them back which may result in them wanting to break away if Delhi drags it's heels. People often make the mistake of thinking oppressed states want to break away. A lot of times, it's the wealthier states that want to. All we can do is build up our own influence (it could take decades) and if an opportunity arises, exploit it.

I realised it as soon as I read your post but couldn't understand why you omitted the sikh Ardass. Even I have a problem explaining to my own parents about wearing the Sri Sahib beause of their Christian backgrounds. They try to support me as much as they can but still haven't come to terms with my conversion to the sikh faith and then the divorce, but I remain hopeful. I like the video posted by another poster.

You are lucky to have someone to help you type your posts. So, we will hear from you after three weeks? Once your English improves you will start to undersand difficult posts, don't worry too much about it. It will come. I understand your posts perfectly well. Good and hasta la vista.............friend.

I asked because you forgot to mention the Sikh Ardass. I know it is taken from Vaar Sri Bhagauti ki, so I was just wondering why you didn't make any refereneces to the daily Sikh Ardass. Good, now you have done that.

no puedo esperar para que usted pueda dominar el idioma inglés. Parmjit10, can you buy Spanish food easily where you are now at your local grocery store? I can never find anything Spanish when I go back home. How long have you been following Sikhism?

Bhagauti is a mighty sword with powers to free us from bondage? How? I read the theory but I can't recall coming across this word ever.

Do 5 japji Sahib and ardas for Guru ji to forgive you bhul chuk maaf waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh

Just because something can't be comprehended or explained, that doesn't mean it's falsified in any way. I'm all for casting a critical eye over issues, but we're talking about something that essentially boils down to faith. If you're looking for logic in faith, that kind of defeats the whole purpose of religion. I'm not saying we must swallow a bunch of hogwash to be true believers "just because," but in the case of Baba Deep Singh Ji (and other similar instances in Sikh theology where unexplainable events have occurred) you either buy it or you don't. Claiming that those who do believe in those types of miraculous occurrences have been brainwashed or hoodwinked is a cheap shot. If you're looking for reason and logic, then perhaps religion isn't the best outlet for your efforts.

yeah but even mughals called our singhs dogs and kuffar and yet begrudingly had to admit our honourable nature and the strict control and conduct of our armies in the presences of females and other faiths

Baba Deep SIngh ji was not the only sikh who did this feat , it was repeated by Bhai Gurbaksh Singh SHaheed jathedar of the taksal also ... our shaheeds were witnessed by firangis for a reason ...why would a firangi big-up the sikhs , the sikhs of course would have much to gain from it ...see what I mean

I hope that you actually meant by the above statement as we had long list of "unsuccessful" trolls coming here often Baba jees head was decapitated and it was his promise to guru sahib that he fulfilled. This is same as Sri Guru Arjan Dev Ji who sat on the tatti tavi and meditated while mughals poured hot sand on him. That is also same when a single sikh fought against sava lakh mughals in the battle ground. From my post in other thread, Trust is needed if one wants to be the true follower. Shanka makes us to dig our grave deeper while we in it.

Absolutely, ahimsa is defined as non violence in word, speech or action towards any sentient being. I learnt this when I read Buddhism. I don't see any problems with this definition. This is how the Buddhist monks defined ahimsa too in their daily discourses which I attended during my univarsity days. Sikhism also believes in non violence up to a certain point. This is what is so appealing to most atheists like myself. The first 5 Gurus also taught non-violence. Having said that, the 10th Guru said, when all efforts to fight injustices by peaceful means or principles of ahimsa have failed, it is acceptable to resort to weapons. India was under Mughal rulers throughout the Sikh history. The first five gurus resisted the rulers' evil wickedness or injustices without reciprocating their voilence or violent ways. They must have resorted to some methods other than weapons/violence to placate their evil rulers? It is very confusing for someone who comes from an atheist background. From what I have learnt so far about Siekh religion is that the gurus taught non-violence towards everyone and everything and voilence only in self defence or in defence of others who could not defend themselves.

This will require unity, without it Sikhs will have to comply.

Convincing them is going to be as hard as trying to convince them that Amrit/Sikh Baptism is to their advantage!!!!

I am so amazed at what you have stated in the bold above, because this is exactly what I pray for everyday, ever since I became a sikh. I have never ever looked back on my birth religion. Sikhism has given me so much that I can never repay the Guru ever. I have truly tasted the nectar, the Gubani, in my own special way! I am so lucky.

This is absolutely true in my case as a westerner. When I was blessed with the amrit the Panj Pyiarra told me the same. They said, if I am not sure about this then I must leave and not take the amrit. I was totally determined and never had any doubts. Coming from Christian family background, I found this to be the most exalting experience of my life. I was lot more older than 12. They said, if I ever decided to 'go back on it' it will be considered a quratt. They also explained what this word meant, but it is difficult for me to explain. But I know exactly what they meant in my heart of hearts. So, what you have said is completely true, judging from your popularity rating, I am no surprised! In my view, his parents should have tried to delay it, considering he is only 12.

ਸਲੋਕ ਮਃ ੫ ॥ सलोक मः ५ ॥ Salok mėhlā 5. Shalok, Fifth Mehl: ਕਿਲਵਿਖ ਸਭੇ ਉਤਰਨਿ ਨੀਤ ਨੀਤ ਗੁਣ ਗਾਉ ॥ किलविख सभे उतरनि नीत नीत गुण गाउ ॥ Kilvikẖ sabẖe uṯran nīṯ nīṯ guṇ gā▫o. All sins are washed away, by continually singing the Lord's Glories. ਕੋਟਿ ਕਲੇਸਾ ਊਪਜਹਿ ਨਾਨਕ ਬਿਸਰੈ ਨਾਉ ॥੧॥ कोटि कलेसा ऊपजहि नानक बिसरै नाउ ॥१॥ Kot kalesā ūpjahi Nānak bisrai nā▫o. ||1|| Millions of afflictions are produced, O Nanak, when the Name is forgotten. ||1|| ਮਃ ੫ ॥ मः ५ ॥ Mėhlā 5. Fifth Mehl: ਨਾਨਕ ਸਤਿਗੁਰਿ ਭੇਟਿਐ ਪੂਰੀ ਹੋਵੈ ਜੁਗਤਿ ॥ नानक सतिगुरि भेटिऐ पूरी होवै जुगति ॥ Nānak saṯgur bẖeti▫ai pūrī hovai jugaṯ. O Nanak, meeting the True Guru, one comes to know the Perfect Way. ਹਸੰਦਿਆ ਖੇਲੰਦਿਆ ਪੈਨੰਦਿਆ ਖਾਵੰਦਿਆ ਵਿਚੇ ਹੋਵੈ ਮੁਕਤਿ ॥੨॥ हसंदिआ खेलंदिआ पैनंदिआ खावंदिआ विचे होवै मुकति ॥२॥ Hasanḏi▫ā kẖelanḏi▫ā painanḏi▫ā kẖāvanḏi▫ā vicẖe hovai mukaṯ. ||2|| While laughing, playing, dressing and eating, he is liberated. ||2||

What’s with attributing laws and dogma to everything? Is this not dogmatic and ritualistic? Something Sikhi preaches against! Sikhi isn't about do's and don'ts. How is eating going to affect bani in the slightest? The same bani that calls out the Brahmins and priests who claimed they were pure, by doing rituals and holding certain beliefs. Of course eating is fine, prashad is given from next to the SGGS palanquin, langar is prepared and eaten while bani is read.

VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH No...Gurbani/Simran is something that one should be engaged in 24/7 ideally.