Sant baba Ranjit Singh Dadrian wale

[Bir_Rass]

If the presenter of Punjab radio is going to discredit Sant Ranjit Singh its highly likely his listeners will do the same.

Sant Baba Ranjit Singh would highly unlikely make his Jatha pay for their air fare separately, the buckets are probably being used as the gurdwara capacity is stretched and people cannot bow to the Shri Guru Granth Sahib, so the committee decide to get people to walk around and collect money, a few days ago Sant Baba Ranjit Singh asked people not to do this as it was making too much noise.

Yet again Punjab radio is causing confusion and misinterpreting the actual mission of Sant Ranjit Singh

[kurtas]

If the presenter of Punjab radio is going to discredit Sant Ranjit Singh its highly likely his listeners will do the same.

Sant Baba Ranjit Singh would highly unlikely make his Jatha pay for their air fare separately, the buckets are probably being used as the gurdwara capacity is stretched and people cannot bow to the Shri Guru Granth Sahib, so the committee decide to get people to walk around and collect money, a few days ago Sant Baba Ranjit Singh asked people not to do this as it was making too much noise.

Yet again Punjab radio is causing confusion and misinterpreting the actual mission of Sant Ranjit Singh

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I doubt this is discrediting Ranjit Singh Ji. It is discrediting the bucket collectors who used false excuses to try and solicit increased contributions.

The committee wale are wrong in this case. You cant send bucket wale round to collect money for matha teyk and if they do, they should not be commenting and asking for more money.

[Cksinghani]

Waheguru ji ka khalsa

Waheguru ji ki fateh

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On the 12th of July at from 7:30 pm onwards the final programme of baba ji's tour will be at Sedgley Street Gurdwara in Wolverhampton

[Lord Singh]

:doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh:

Yes, the last diwaan in Wolverhampton is going to be very good. If people are going to the London Protest from Wolverhampton or local from there, it should not be a problem as the coaches will be back to the Gurdwara in time for the diwaan - It will be an excellent day, especially for those who will be going to London and listening to the diwaan in the evening as well - TAKE LAHA SANGAT JI!

Everyone - "Gurdwara Singh Sabha, Glasgow, Scotland" tomorrow "Monday 4th July 2005" from "7.00pm - 9.00pm".

PLEASE ATTEND AND TAKE FULL LAHA OF THIS VALUABLE TIME WHILE WE CAN!!!

Is there anyone here who knows they will be going or from Scotland that will be going, also does anyone know how big the Gurdwara in Glasgow is???

:doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh:

[Lord Singh]

:doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh:

Panjab Radio and Ghuman are obviously not going to say anything good, only try to spread propaganda about Baba Ji!!! - The only reason the people collect money is for sewa so that people don't have to get up and disturb the atmosphere - its nothing to do with Baba Ji or the Gurdwara committees - they are just trying to help the sangat and I can guarentee they don't force you to give money - they are merely helping not to disturb the atmosphere and helping the sangat so they don't have to get up - although, no offence to them, they do disturb the atmosphere a little - and Baba Ji DOES TELL THEM TO STOP AS IF ANYONE WANTS TO GIVE MAYA, THEY CAN DO SO DURING THE ANAND SAHIB!!!

Panjab Radio haven't a clue about what they're on about and have no base for an argument - one day some Singhs are going to question them and they won't know what to say!!!

Listen to Baba Ji's diwaan - todays one in Leicester - Baba Ji is talking about this "Maya" issue - they have no intention about collecting money!!! - They are telling EVERYONE TO GIVE MONEY TO PLACES SUCH AS SHAHEED FAMILIES!!! - Now thats wicked parchaar!!! - Something everyone is forgetting in todays age!!! They are putting great emphasis into this - to give maya to poor families in India and Shaheed Families!!! They were very angry today in the leicester diwaan that people are labelling them as someone who asks for Maya (no doubt Baba Ji has also heard about Ghuman and his Panjab Radio) and say that he was considering why come here if people are saying this about him and all the sewa they are doing in India of Amrit Sanchaar may also go to waste because of the rumours being stirred here!!!

They have also emphasized the point about the "beadbi" that is happening towards Sahib Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji in good detail - This is because someone has informed Baba Ji about this happening in England and the taking of Maharaj into Pubs and Clubs - So Baba Ji has told the sangat about it - If Baba Ji is told about something - they will without doubt take on the issue - but they have to be informed by someone in the first place!

In fact, Baba Ji was given three main hukams by Sant Baba Karam Singh Ji (Rara Sahib Wale) that if you want to preach and do kirtan successfully, you must:

1/ Never take off your "Chola"

2/ Do not get married

3/ NEVER ASK FOR MAYA (MONEY)

...and they have followed this until today and will continue to do so with Waheguru Ji's kirpa for the rest of their life!

IF YOU HAVE NOT LISTENED TO TODAYS DIWAAN 3RD JULY IN LEICESTER - PLEASE DO SOMEHOW BY BUYING THE CD OR SOMETHING OR SOMEONE TAKE THE SEWA TO UPLOAD AT LEAST THE END OF IT AS BABA JI HAS CLEARLY EXPLAINED THIS "MAYA" ISSUE AND ABOUT THE "BEADBI" OF MAHARAJ THAT IS STARTING TO HAPPEN IN TODAYS WORLD!!! - A BEAUTIFUL DIWAAN!!!

Baba Ji don't even like to show off in anyway whatsoever, a premi sewadaar wanted to put up banners just simply saying "Sant Baba Ranjit Singh Ji Dhadrian Wale" on the New Range Rover they are mostly using to travel around the country, so that when Baba Ji comes to the Gurdwara, it is easier to tell which car Baba Ji is in so that parking is easier and Baba Ji can enter the Darbaar Sahib quicker for the diwaan to start on time, but Baba Ji said to not to do so as people may think he has got them put up himself!!!

It is not Baba Ji that tells the sangat to do Jaikare when they enter the darbaar hall or people to touch their feet or for them to travel in Range Rovers and other big cars - It is simply the Sangat's prem and pyaar for the Gurbani that Sant Baba Ranjit Singh Ji is preaching to the masses - AND FOR THIS GHUMAN & PANJAB RADIO AND OTHER "SANT BASHERS" HAVE NO RIGHT TO INTERFERE IN AS IT IS THE SADH SANGAT - NOT BABA JI!!!

The sewadaars time and time again, along with Baba Ji himself tell the sangat to greet him with "Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh" and not to touch his feet. If you go to their headquarters in Patiala, there are about 4 or 5 Singhs outside where Baba Ji sits to tell the sangat to greet with WJKKhalsa WJKFateh and not to touch Baba Ji's feet! But its the Sangats pyaar and Baba Ji has nothing to do with this, therefore Ghuman, Panjab Radio and the rest have no right to pick faults from Baba Ji!!!

Ghuman and Panjab Radio need to be stopped now - Please take part in phoning them or emailing to stop this nonsense and spreading of propaganda to split the Panth!!! - Also phone or email Amritbani and Raaj Radio to say thankyou for their sewa.

The same nindya was started about Baba Maan Singh in the early stages with rumours being stirred, which in time turned into false allegations - although the Sant is still in Chardi Kalaa today with Waheguru Ji's kirpa - LET THIS NEVER HAPPEN TO SANT BABA RANJIT SINGH JI DHADRIAN WALE - IT MUST BE STOPPED NOW!!!!!

:doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh:

[Dhan Teri Sikhi]

Waheguru Jee Ka Khalsa

Waheguru Jee Ki Fateh

I was also at the Leicester diwan yesterday. In addition to what Lord Singh has stated, Baba Jee also said that if anyone can point out that they have ever asked for money from anyone either in the sangat or from someone when they visit people's houses, they will stop doing keertan.

I agree everyone should contact Panjab Radio and stop this happening as Baba Jee are doing wicked parchar and inspiring thousands of people to take amrit.

Waheguru Jee Ka Khalsa

Waheguru Jee Ki Fateh

[Tera]

I went to the Leicester program yesterday and all I can say is :TH:

There was not one thing Sant Ranjeet Singh Ji mentioned that I disagreed with.

He spoke about the importance of Rehat and the 5k's and Ekta/Unity.

Also spoke about Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji being taken to pubs and clubs etc. He told the story about the Battle of Chamkaur and Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji. When the hukam came from the khalsa for Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji to leave and go to safety, he went throught the jungles towards a Singh's House named Pooran Singh who had asked Guru Ji to come to his house various times prevoiusly. When Guru Ji got there at amrit vela, this Singh was still asleep. Anyway, Pooran Singh told Guru Ji to go away and that he did not need to see him as he knew the Moghuls would be looking for him.

He said someone to takes Sri Guru Granth Sahib to such places is no worse than Pooran Singh who turned away Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji. Such a paap would take many janam to work off.

I also felt really bad as he was mentioning about people saying that he was in it for the money. He told of how popular his parchaar is in India and that he was worried that people may start doubting his parchaar in India if such stupid accusations are made and hence was considering heading back to India early.

He only told people to follow the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, keep a good rehat, take amrit and do path/simran.

We need more people doing great parchaar like this so lets not tarnish his character.

I'll hopefuly be in Derby for his program on Wednesday too

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Bhul Chuk Maaf Karna

[Tera]

The other thing was he NEVER asked for money once and mentioned how the sevadar going round with buckets was down to the committee, not him.

He must seriously have done a lot of kamai in his prevoius life to have such kirpa on him at such a young age.

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Bhul ChuK Maaf Karna

[Khalsa Meri Janaki Jaan]

Waheguru ji ka khalsa, waheguru ji ki Fateh !

Thanks a lot Tera Ji for the information about the Saki you attended in

last diwan of Baba Ji. Kindly let us know the saki of next diwan you will

be going to attend.

Again My request to UK sangat to take laha from this great opporunity and

please do not indulge in silly rumours.

We eagerly waiting for Baba Ji to come back to India.

[mkaur13]

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

I have heard that Baba Jee's diwaan in Slough on the 11th July 2005 has been cancelled due to false propaganda being spread on Panjab Radio. Can anyone confirm this?

:'(

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee kee Fateh!!